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fil2 07-Sep-2006 12:38

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Originally Posted by antonye
You probably spoke to Clive - he's the main guy and former 250GP racer. He also does the ACU training days as well. Knows his stuff and his work is good, so I'm sure he'll sort you out.


And you still got your shock for sale right...!


LOL

antonye 07-Sep-2006 12:54

Borrocks, you're right!

fil2 07-Sep-2006 13:18

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Originally Posted by antonye
Borrocks, you're right!


wot is it again.?

couchcommando 07-Sep-2006 13:47

'just ride it' is advice that is useless if you don't like how a bike feels. Regardless of set up it's how it feels to you that makes you go fast on it. This is why magazine or other peoples set ups are pointless. You need to figure out what is wrong and work from there. If you can't say what is wrong then no one can help. The only advice to give is return everything to standard, all settings and fork oil type and level. In standard trim bikes are made to suit a large percentage of riders. Once it's in this trim try and suss out what you don't like if anything about it.

psychlist 07-Sep-2006 14:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by couchcommando
'just ride it' is advice that is useless if you don't like how a bike feels. Regardless of set up it's how it feels to you that makes you go fast on it. This is why magazine or other peoples set ups are pointless. You need to figure out what is wrong and work from there. If you can't say what is wrong then no one can help. The only advice to give is return everything to standard, all settings and fork oil type and level. In standard trim bikes are made to suit a large percentage of riders. Once it's in this trim try and suss out what you don't like if anything about it.


Best advice I've seen here.
Working from a standard set up see what it is you dont like about it and work on one thing at a time. Dont change too much in one go or you wont know what it is thats giving you the changed feel of the bike, you may make a change to the front that upsets the rear or vice versa. The first thing I did to the 583 monster was set it onm max preload (to comenaste for the weight it had to carry), then I had to jack up the rear to max on the loop arm, and when that didnt give me the turn in I wanted I had an inch extra welded in to the bottom of the loop arm. I then found I was decking out the pegs real easy without hitting the edge of the tyres and I was using all the travel of the forks under max braking, so put a thick nut under the head of the spring retainers and it felt almost spot on. Sure I could have gone to a specialist and paid good money for a good job, but in the real world I didnt have that money to spend so worked with what I had. You can too, just work on one thing at a time and try it out.

Ray 07-Sep-2006 21:57

Clogger,

Maybe two ways to go about this and a load in between.

1. Get the bike in top condition as per standard, new oil and seals and maybe new springs. set to standard. and work from that point.

2. Chuck some cash at it and buy the best stuff the rules allow.

The cash unlimited option is maybe not reasonable so do the stuff that it realtivelely cheap to sort out the standard issue stuff to get it as good as you can.

There are still quite few variable you can fiddle with cheaply. Document every thing so you know where you started, what you changed and so on. If you think you have gone wrong you can back track.

Racing is about confidence i.e. knowing that the thing is gonna stick to the track and "feel"

If you need someone nearer home maybe try www.reactivesuspension.co.uk they are on the far side of York. (maybe not that near then!)

Ray

trouty 07-Sep-2006 23:26

here's a basic guide on suspension set up that i wrote a little while ago. you might find it handy, you might not, but no harm in giving it a quick read anyway...
trouty's suspension guide

domski 07-Sep-2006 23:30

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Originally Posted by trouty
here's a basic guide on suspension set up that i wrote a little while ago. you might find it handy, you might not, but no harm in giving it a quick read anyway...
trouty's suspension guide


Wayhey!!!!!

You finally got your arse in here :D

Mines a can of wifebeater (as Otei so kindly put it)

Good to see you at the weekend too.

;)

trouty 07-Sep-2006 23:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by domski
Wayhey!!!!!

You finally got your arse in here :D

Mines a can of wifebeater (as Otei so kindly put it)

Good to see you at the weekend too.

;)


a whole can?? hope that's going to be shared :)
dont know about everyone else, but i managed to get sunburnt on sunday!

i got to ride a ducati for first time as well, allbeit up the paddock about 20ft, turn it round and back to the van... it felt, umm, different....

anyways, great riding from everyone, great to see such a well filled grid with close racing throughout

ya never know, u might get the pleasure of my attendance again sometime... ;)

Otei 08-Sep-2006 00:04

All sounds a bit fishy to me.

Badoom tssshhh!


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