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domski 09-May-2005 14:08

What\'s your points? <--- That\'s cryptic ;o)
 
OK, following on from discussions on here AND with other DD riders on my moby...

Here is a link to a JUST FOR FUN points table, based on engine capacity.

It's not the official points table, although general opinion seems to wish it was...

JUST FOR FUN, AND NOT OFFICIAL POINTS TABLE - OK!!









....running away now :ninja:

phoenix n max 09-May-2005 14:10

I wish you'd hurry up and get better - you must be going out of your mind with boredom ;)
Hmm 31 - sounds better than 5 I must admit!

domski 09-May-2005 14:13

My point exactly :bouncy:

Everyone gets more points (not the idea behind this), and the people who ride their nuts off on a 583 or 675 get just reward for there efforts, coz they're gunna get hammered from now on.

I'll give £50 to the first non-620 rider to win a DRY race.

I think my money is safe.

:)

fil2 09-May-2005 15:16

it must be said that running an Internal " DSC " 2 class series as depicted in the tables is not a bad idea............what possible hope have the 583/600 big bores got of a top 3 finish in a race let alone the season against the top riders on the 620's.

I can hear the "its the rider not the bike" arguments already.......
:P

Phil

dickieducati 09-May-2005 15:20

i think we've been here before, but if a top 3 finish is that important to anyone surely they would have got a 620 in the first place?

fil2 09-May-2005 15:23

Quote:

Originally posted by dickieducati
i think we've been here before, but if a top 3 finish is that important to anyone surely they would have got a 620 in the first place?

Not when they were told a 600 big bore would give same bhp...........

but like u said we been here before, but still a valid point dom raises about 2 point system...why would any1 object to that.........:puzzled:

Phil

domski 09-May-2005 15:24

What if you couldn't afford a 620?

This was a 'cheap' entry class afterall.

Phil & Ali are fast boys, but maybe they didn't have the £4000+ to buy and prep a 620.

Should they be penalised for that?

fil2 09-May-2005 15:30

Quote:

Originally posted by weeksy
but... the way the rules were interpreted by DD 583 BB riders was that a sorted 583 would be pretty much equal to the 620ie...

I've been since informed that they have read it wrong anf it might do with Mikumi(sp?) carbs and a few other bits...

So the 583 riders at the time thought it would be an equal power battle.

mikuni flatslides and a little fettling will not give 63 at the rear wheel..and would cost in the order of 800 quid plus...

i would donate my bike to any of the Ducati mechanics here and let them try to get 63 at the wheel within the rules.

currently with Big bore and dyno jet its 51.5bhp.

Phil

domski 09-May-2005 15:35

I think Geoffs bike was making 63, so how would a 583/675 produce the same with tiny valves.

Thats where the restriction lies.

You could bore it to 1000cc, and it would be dog slow coz you can't get air/fuel in and out fast enough.

dickieducati 09-May-2005 15:35

fair do's. 2 valid points well made.

out of interest whsat are the most accurate dyno figs we have seen comparing the 2. i know, different dyno's etc etc but what are we talking about 5 bhp, 10?

re 2 points systems. i think that is a bad way to go. as i have said before you then get into a hadicap type system for all sorts of reasons.

re cost how much more is a 620 realistically compared to what they have spent? not much if getting that podium is really important.


**just read above replies.**
if the info supplied pre season was inaccurate that is a shame for those concerned


[Edited on 9-5-2005 by dickieducati]


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