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pbrown 29-Aug-2012 07:55

Help please - Rev counter on 1098?
 
Looking to add an aftermarket rev counter to 1098 to get thru' noise testing since my clocks have stopped working.

What's the best way to do this & what type of rev counter do I need? Doesn't need to be a long term fix.

skidlids 29-Aug-2012 21:30

Depending on ECU,
916/748
900/750SSie
Elliot
Spa
Scitsu
Stack

Some you have to configure to get the right reading on a twin

pbrown 29-Aug-2012 22:47

ECU is 5AM2 I believe. Any idea which is the TACH wire from ECU to clocks or would I tie in to the coil wire?

skidlids 29-Aug-2012 23:58

The Standard Dash gets the Tacho signal via the CAN line so little you can do with that, Standard dash must be working in some form otherwise fueling would be a bit off.
Are you intending to add another Tacho alongside the standard unit, something like a Stack or Spa unit will pickup off the coil trigger wire

pbrown 30-Aug-2012 06:58

I've broken the dash display in a crash & the rev counter doesn't display. I was looking to leave the existing dash on until I got a new one & have a separate rev counter for noise testing purposes only.

I have a 2nd hand dash hopefully turning up on friday which has had the IMMO removed to work with a nemasis ecu but I wasn't sure whether that would work with my ECU without IMMO being disabled on ECU.

Eventually I will get the dash and/or ecu sent off & paired but this quick fix was just to get me out this weekend.

chrisw 30-Aug-2012 13:08

There is no immo in the 1098 ECU, it is all in the dash.

pbrown 30-Aug-2012 13:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisw
There is no immo in the 1098 ECU, it is all in the dash.


Chris, I know you told me this before & I'm hoping your right but I've seen conflicting info on this so was trying to hedge my bets.

chrisw 30-Aug-2012 18:23

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The ECU's in the 1098 (plus other later bikes) are completely virgin and never been coded. If someone takes your money to remove the immo then they are ripping you off.

Here's a screen shot off my 1198S ECU showing it is Virgin and uncoded (same applies to the 1098/848/SF and HM)

skidlids 30-Aug-2012 18:44

Nemesis ECU will work happily even if the clocks are coded as it ignores the IMMO part so i'm a bit worried when you say the dash has been decoded to work with a Nemesis as its not a requirement.

So far I have fitted 1098 Nemesis ECUs to two Desmo Due race bikes along with stripped down looms and 2nd hand dashes from a 1098.

if you have had the IMMO removed from the replacement dash then I would have thought the standard ECU would be OK. Bit like fitting the Virgin ECU on my 620 a couple of years back, providing a standard dash was fitted it would run with or without the clocks being coded providing the coded ones (IMMO function operating) had the the keys transponder to read from.

I may be wrong here but as far as I know a Virgin ECU is not the same as a ECU with the IMMO off, its just NOT yet been coded but still requires a signal from clocks

skidlids 30-Aug-2012 19:11

I have one of these handy little things, without the 3 stage bit just a single shift LED
http://webspace.webring.com/people/v...ht/closeup.jpg

They not only display revs in a digital display but it also provides a shiftlight that you can set to where you want it and is also compact


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