Finally tracked one down bought a Corbin, forgot advice given, found I slipped back too much, should have bought a Close Canyon instead of standard one, so flogged it on fleebay, only lost a 20 quid or so, not too costly a mistake.
Well made, but even if I bought a Close version, I'm not sure if I could have got on with the "bucket" design, will try a Sargent next I suppose.
Thanks for advice given.
