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Old 27-Aug-2006, 18:27
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Originally Posted by Paul James
Well at least we've got a bit of dialogue developing. I take on board your points but if I was to say; "please can you guys help me out here and make my job easier by sending info as requested" would that help ? Maybe one of you would like to volunteer to sweep up all the forum info and send it in ?. Be aware that if you missed anything it would be your ar*e on the line and not mine for a change ;-). If on the other hand you individually send it to the DD address it is the RC, or more to the point me who will get it in the neck for any errors or omissions.

OK, I don't really know how to explain my view properly, but I will try...

It is my belief that it is the responsibility of the Race Committee to gather this information. There are two MT members and two rider reps. Are you saying that four blokes can't get this information from the forum?

I run a website all on my own, everything that is on that website has been gathered, put together, written by, requested, chased up, searched for... by me - one person!

I'm fairly confident that I could put together a questionnaire within easily within a week, and probably just a couple of days, allowing people to email anything I may not find myself. The RC have had 3 weeks and still no end product. I'm not having a go, my way is my way and your way is your way.

I know I could do that too, because I have done...

Myself and Lucie put together the rider profile folder in under a week, with almost 40 profiles. I had to chase some people, but I got my head down and it got done without too much work to be honest. A few hours of my time and probably a couple hours of Lucie's time to print out the info and put it in a folder.

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Surely whether one has time to take on a role is very dependent on how much genuine help and goodwill is forthcoming ?

How much help you require depends on how much work you want to do yourself. If you're relying on people to email you, then we'll be here all year - whatever the topic. Someone needs to grab the situtaion by the balls and crack on with it.

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I truly appreciated your keeping the points table up to date for instance and publicly said as much but it seems that you've stopped doing that now ? I didn't make a public song and dance over it, just got on and sorted it myself.

Yes, but I don't think that requires an explanation does it.

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I'd like you to consider that there are quite a few of you guys (and guyesses) out there making your contributions but there's only one of me trying to pull them all together into a workable document in this instance. It is feasible if simple requests like the email thingy are accepted.

To be fair, I think you're making a meal of this questionnaire Paul. I've given examples of some of my efforts above. Putting a questionnaire together really isn't that big of a deal is it? If we're being honest.

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My intention in doing this is only to benefit the series by answering questions that have arisen throughout the year in the hope that a little more stability can be introduced for next year.

That's great and we do appreciate stuff, when it gets done, eventually

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I'd like you to ask any MT member you have trust in to comment on the amount of effort I've put in to sorting this out to date. Maybe Jools as he's respected by most or perhaps Paul Sutliff, an ex DD rider.

I would appreciate being able to continue any discussioin in a reasonable manner and will agree here and now not to get agitated or respond unreasonably myself. Not sure what else I can say at this juncture.

I don't question your effort or committment, and some good things have been achieved since you've been on the RC. However, I'm not gunna blow smoke up your arse because I think that some things could have been done better and quicker and without so much drama. Have you tried Red Bull?

I think I've been honest in my replies.

Last edited by domski : 27-Aug-2006 at 18:29.