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Old 04-May-2004, 11:17
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There is exactly the same weld on all 749 / 999 tanks but you don't see it as it is covered by a small plastic plate , the plate would look silly on the bigger tank , I don't have a problem with it being left off.

As someone else also posted , what hefty price premium ? , the 749R is quite a bargain when you consider what you get for your money , same frame as a 999R , same swingarm as a 999R , brakes forks , magnesium rocker covers , carbon bodywork (ok the seat is plastic) unique engine bore / stroke compared to other models , you even get titanium valves which the 999R does not have..........all for £6k less than a 999R
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Nigel ....no problem .....we all do that on occasions.

YFE ......the price premium is in relation to most other brands on the market. We pay a premium for bikes that need replacement engine parts every 6000 miles or so and on which the welding is third rate!!!!

Would we accept this from our cars?

I think not.

*feeling ****ed at the thought of replacement rockers now the 996 is out of warranty*
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Would we accept this from our cars?

I think not.


Possibly not. But when you consider the specific output of a 996 is somewhere around 120Bhp per litre and a 999R is in the region of 140Bhp per litre that's a big ask from any twin, which means they're in a pretty high state of tune for a 'standard' road bike.

How many normally aspirated cars are in that sort of territory? By my reckoning that would mean a performance oriented car like a BMW M3 at 3.2 litres would have to make nearly 450 Bhp as standard - and it doesn't does it, over 100 Bhp less in fact. If you raised the state of tune, my guess is that the Beemer would need a good deal of fettling every 6000 miles as well.

There are loads of people that know far more about cars than I do - I'm well out of touch. Maybe somene can help identify how many normally aspirated cars including real exotica make that sort of specific power output and what their reliability record is like?

[Edited on 4-5-2004 by Jools]
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Interesting point Jools.......however I note that our Far Eastern brethren seem to be able to extract even higher BHP from 1000cc and still not require the replacement of what should be parts which last the life of the engine after 6000 miles !

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