Ducati Sporting Club UK > Model Specific - Discussion, Technical Problems and Help > 999 / 749 > Front brakes seized.....

[Mark]

You would hope, soon a safety re-call will be called, if all the problems are related, and from the same build time. I wonder how many machines are required with a problem before a re-call is made.

[Lily]

I remember discusing with someone somtime ago about how they determine if they (generic motor company not ducati) need to recall.

It was something along the lines of cost benefit for the company. They balance up the cost of the recall against the cost of being sued for accidents or even fatalities relating to it.

Don't know how true that was, but pretty scary when you think about it. It wasn't the fact that someone could die, more how much it would cost them if they did!

[necroscope]

Originally posted by Twinfan
Whoa!!! Another one!!! And a 749 again too!

When was the bike registered in '04? Was it around May time by any chance???????

Registered late April 04'.
Seems unlikely that Ducati would admit to such a fundamental problem with their 'prestige' 749/999 range. But then, like this website proves, word of mouth can be very powerful!

[Twinfan]

Cheers nero - the build date ties in with other cases. More than likely a faulty batch of one of the braking components discs/pads/callipers is to blame.

I'm still waiting for Ducati to get back to me and let me know how they're going to resolve my problem of:

£5500 of bike damage (possible write off territory)
A list of required parts as long as your arm
Time delay in getting all those parts (assuming my bike would be fixed)
A written-off Arai
Damaged gloves and jacket
Scars on my right forearm
Two weeks of severe bruising to my right arm and right leg

[Rob B]

Could this be a master cyl issue, not bleeding back. Had you had a recent service?

[guest1]

Originally posted by Lily
It was something along the lines of cost benefit for the company. They balance up the cost of the recall against the cost of being sued for accidents or even fatalities relating to it.

The cost/life/legal action you refer to I believe was the Ford motor company in america with respect to the fuel tanks exploding in rear end collisions.
Executive decision was that cost of recall to refit with sub $100 part would cost more than the probable number of compensation claims arising from the accident.
Needless to say they were "outed" in court and justice administered.
There is currently more class actions taking place with same company re: Victor Crown police vehicles and allegedly exploding collisions. (search Guardian webite for full scripts)

The cost for substantiation of a UK bypass is- if bypass saves one life then the budget is £4M. Any more and it is unlikely to receive planning permission. Kind of like a points system.

[Twinfan]

Mine can't be the master cylinder as only one disc has turned blue. Spartacus had the same problem as myself/necroscope and they replaced the discs/pads/callipers but not the master cylinder (as it sounds lilke they're going to do with necroscope).

V2_Pete had a master cylinder fault so his case is different.

[ali]

This sounds like exactly the sort of issue that the DSC management should be discussing directly with Ducati UK. If the lives of our members are at risk there can be no more urgent issue. It's a disgrace that DUK haven't sorted this out already and warned other 749 owners of the possible implications.

[JPM]

I would imagine Ducati UK watch this board and several others everyday, and maybe someone somewhere there right now is reading this thread and the alarm bells are ringing...

[stuart hill]

Another one!!!
I have just phoned Ducati Manchester regarding the Judder i experienced at the weekend and waiting for the workshop managher to call me back. I'll let you know what he has to say...