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[AK]

Originally Posted by Lily

Is there a cut off time for racing at Donington?

6pm usually unless a council extension is applied for
remeber last year at wsb lily? we were the last race out on the 1098 and just got in in time by 2 mins.

[WhiteWizard]

It is my first race ever, and i am looking forward to it, but without whinjing on too much, it is getting grim. No real provisions for delays, very tight schedule, getting that second race in may be..well...we'll see i spose. I hope the rest of the years arrangements are better than this.

Still, we'll be having fun no matter what happens, & If we dont get that second race...that halves my chances of falling off!

Keep smiling, we'll all have fun! (We've got 2xCadwell Rounds )

[skidlids]

Originally Posted by Ghost

I seem to recall last week that there was enough class B to have a grid of there own and class A were going where ever they were being put. So how come now there isn't enough for class B.

Goal posts are planted in Muesli, for ease of moving methinks.

Like you Phil we all received a email on Friday 6th March, listing 24 class B entrants and 11 Class A, my understanding is that in the 10 days since then there has only been one more entry.

As DD was initially allocated a single 40 place grid at which many compalined about saying it wasn't enough and that we should have two grids due to our numbers, well it now seems that 40 places on a grid is more than enough, just as it was in 2007 when we had a combined grid

[skidlids]

Originally Posted by AK

6pm usually unless a council extension is applied for
remeber last year at wsb lily? we were the last race out on the 1098 and just got in in time by 2 mins.

As the 1st provisional timetable for Sunday was

SUNDAY 29TH MARCH

09.00-09.15 Suzuki GSXR / Formula 600 Qualifying Practice Timed
09.20-09.30 ACU F2 Sidecars Warm Up Untimed
09.35-09.45 MotoSix 600 Warm Up Untimed
09.50-10.00 MotoSix 1000 Warm Up Untimed
10.05-10.15 MotoSix Sidecars Warm Up Untimed
10.30-10.50 Suzuki GSXR / Formula 600 Qualifying Practice Timed
10.55-11.20 Ducati Desmo Due Race 1 (R5) 8 Laps
11.25-11.50 Dutch Ducati Championship Race 1 (R6) 8 Laps
11.55-12.20 ACU F2 Sidecars Race 1 (R7) 8 Laps

INTERVAL

12.50-1.15 Pro-Bike Open Race 2 (R8) 8 Laps
1.20-1.50 Lansdowne Classic Race 2 (R9) 8 Laps
1.55-2.20 Dutch Ducati Championship Race 2 (R10) 8 Laps
2.25-2.55 MotoSix 600 Race 1 (R11) 10 Laps
3.00-3.30 MotoSix 1000 Race 1 (R12) 10 Laps
3.35-4.05 MotoSix Sidecars Race 1 (R13) 10 Laps
4.10-4.45 Suzuki GSXR / Formula 600 Race 1 (R14) 20 Mins + 1 Lap
4.50-5.15 Ducati Desmo Due Race 2 (R15) 8 Laps
5.20-5.50 MotoSix 600 Race 2 (R16) 10 Laps
5.55-6.25 MotoSix 1000 Race 2 (R17) 10 Laps
6.30-7.00 MotoSix Sidecars Race 2 (R18) 10 Laps

It looks like they may have council permission to go up to 7pm

[Scooter916]

Well I suppose we can't complain about the Mixed grid if we dont have the numbers, Although I do have an e mail From CB stating that we have seperate Grids....LOL
It does sound to me Like NE are telling Chris what he wants to hear and doing as they please.
Would'nt a fair way to run the meeting regarding timings be reverse the race order on sunday....Last out sat = first our sunday.
I have a stick in my hand and at this very moment in time its quite smelly at my end.........

[Imola Duke]

Roll on Anglesey


Sorry i can't make Donny... Working in south Wales

Good luck to you all and have a good one

[skidlids]

Glyn I think a few people made assumptions about the numbers, with 24 Class B entries out of a possible 41 already in a week before the closing date and about half or the Class A riders entered by that time it looks like the assumption was made that we would end up with more than 40 riders, so CB started applying pressure on New Era to give us two grids something that woul have been needded if we had 6 or 7 more entries, after all 42 or 43 out of a possible 60 odd shouldn't have been to hard.
As it is it hasn't happened and it may well work against us later in the year as the RC campaigned for two grids from new Era and then didn't come up with the entries to fill one combined grid.

Just like the first round last year at Mallory where we put out the smallest grids at the meeting as i mentioned previously here.

http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/sh...t=78617&page=5

and when you look at the top of the page it looks like Donny will be a Mixed Grid with 36 riders and no reserves

[Scooter916]

Well the no reserve thing is a good thing, At least all who entered will get a race.

[bradders]

difference is Kev at Mallory there were many other races which could be entered on a DD bike

[skidlids]

Originally Posted by bradders

difference is Kev at Mallory there were many other races which could be entered on a DD bike

Yet we still had the smallest grids even when you take out the DD bikes from the SoT or the Class B bikes from Class A.

We can't keep telling New Era we need two grids and then barely put out half a grid in each class, or in Class A's case a quarter of a grid at Donington, its not going to help us influence any of New Eras decisions.

If we want split grids we need to justify it with numbers or expect the costs to go up.
Say a grid of 36 at a cost to New Era of £120 a grid place its worth £4320 to New era
Split that between 24 class B riders and its £180 a head
Split it between 12 class A riders and its £360 a head
But split between 24 Class B and 12 Class A its £120

I know the Supermono's use to pay for a full grid and then divide the cost between the entries, that way they knew what they were getting every time, so they knew they had untimed practice, timed practice and a long race.

Considering New Era is a business that lost a lot of money last year we have to realise they are going to do whats best for THEM and the best thing we can do is get our entries in as early as possible.

Thankfully not all circuits are as costly as Donington where its hard for New Era to break even, at other circuits the grid spaces cost them less and if they fill enough at the right price they can make a profit and afford to be a bit more generous with their grid allocations, hence the chances of getting two seperate grids at the likes of Angelsey, Pembrey, Snetterton, Mallory and Cadwell are pretty good and not many of those offers Garages and electric