Ducati Sporting Club UK > Model Specific - Discussion, Technical Problems and Help > 998 / 996 / 916 / 748 > the old power debate

[TP]

Originally posted by Jools
Or of course...one of these.



If you're listening Santa, I'll be a good boy all year...promise.

Read about it HERE

Neil Spalding has a few tasty idea's about tweaking that engine

[TP]

Which incidentally Jools, will give you more than 100rwbhp and in that thing weighing 118kg!!!

Woohoo!!!

[m1keyp]

All this talk of 853 kits, how much are they ?????????????????????

[chris99]

The TL1000 idea actually looks quite good to me! I dont know if a TL motor would have the soul of a Ducati though. Loads of power though and propper service intervals

http://www.rhencullen.co.uk/rhenspecials.htm

[deej]

it was only a pub debate that got out of hand which i wnated your views on

without being big headed i am 1 of the 2 best riders in the group so have the confidence and knowledge that i can kick all their ass's up until 130ish, yes i know we shouldnt ride that fats on the rodas but it happens and iw ill only ride as fast as i feel safe and confident to do so

i must admit to having thoughts of a 853 kit, i know it wont add any vlaue to the bike but it may just be what im after without going full hog and buying a 916 just yet, i want to get used to riding this thing properly but would like a bit extra up top

i love the whole ducati experience, the looks, the noise, the low down grunt, the envy and jealous looks of other riders, its great... i just miss that top line speed and whail of a il4

so anyway how much for a 853 kit

[Jools]

I toyed with the idea of getting a 748 and getting one of Nelly's 853 kits on it.

About 2 grand all in, fitted, tested etc...

That was a couple of years back mind, but the thought of a cheapish 748 which you could pick up for about £3.5 K back then with effectively a new refurbished engine for £5.5K all in was quite appealing.

[Edited on 30-3-2005 by Jools]

[TP]

Jools, that Poggipolini NCR Ducati 1000 Millona bike is 999R money, $35k USD or £18,600 GBP (currently, xe.com) plus whatever imports you'd have to pay.

They do offer an upgrade ...

"The Poggipolini family does offer a tuned version of the engine that puts out an additional 20 rear wheel horsepower, and if I was buying the bike I think I would take this option."

Grrrr .....

Imagine 105 rwbhp in a bike weighing 118kg's in that chassis!

[Edited on 30-3-2005 by TP]

[desmojen]

Bearing in mind that the 748R engine is basically a sleeved down 996 one, I can see no good reason why a 996 engine wouldn't go straight in.
I don't really see any good reason to put one in either tbh, if you check out the sigma site I believe the 853R he did was putting out around 120bhp and cost about £2000 to do. Thats got to be cheaper than changing your bike, and in many cases is just as powerful as a 996 anyway. (notwithstanding tuned ones of course) I used to chat a bit with some guys who ran a supersport spec 748RS which was producing 127bhp, imagine that with an 853 set up!
I know my little bike is expected to pull around112 when I get the power commander set up, and already does 108, that's more than most 916's, and it is standard bar 50mm end cans.
On my good friday ride out I was with two friends on 600's an SRAD and a CBR, I left them both for dead on a straight bit. I know anyone can do straights and all that but it does go to show that dukes aren't as slow as all those il4 guys seem to think.
Don't follow the herd deej, that little duke will teach you so much more about riding than any mass produced ujm ever could!

[Mr_S]

Deej,

Around £2k is still the price for an 853 conversion at pretty much any of the tuning shops.

If you accept it'll never add £2K to the value of the bike, but you're unlikely to lose money, you're in a good place to accept the cost.

I know Bradders had considered this option for his 748, but decided to upgrade to a 916SPS for pretty much the same cost.

I've got the same base engine as you, but during the head rebuild had a set of SP cams, SP pistons, and vernier pulleys fitted, also had the cams dialled in, dyno setup etc, and it was pushing out 101 before it left the workshop. That should rise as thinks loosen up.

[rcgbob44]

Mr_S

Thats very sneaky. Thats the thing to do with cars! How about a 2 litre gold turbo with 1.6L badges, he he!