Ducati Sporting Club UK > Model Specific - Discussion, Technical Problems and Help > 999 / 749 > In the "one spark club" - sorted!

[HW]

At Cadwell yesterday I had to come off early in the last morning session with the engine management light on and running on one cylinder (or the impression that I was). Further investigation revealed that the front cylinder was not firing (pulled the plug and it had no effect on the running), and when I remembered how to get the error codes to show up, it was confirmed as "Horizontal cylinder coil short to earth". Fortunately I printed off the list of codes that Nelly kindly posted and kept it in my toolbox.

Just spoke to Italia and they said the don't keep them in stock as they have had "no problems with them recently". Hopefully, later this week I will be running again. I was also told that it might not be the coil, that the ECU's have been know to fail and give that symptom too.

I asked them to order in a 2nd coil too for me to buy, as I don't think I shall be going anywhere without a spare in future!

Oh yes, I should jsut mention that the one that failed was the "flying lead" replacement that I had earler this year, not the rusty original one from the front cylinder that is still in the rear one.

Shame really - I was having fun with my STM slipper clutch and getting to know the bike again after the supsension had been set up by Colin of 100% Supsension. I have to say the suspension setup was the best £40 I ever spent on it!

[Edited on 20-9-2005 by HW]

[Edited on 24-9-2005 by HW]

[JPM]

Henry, You can run, but you can't hide

[HW]

Originally posted by JPM
Henry, You can run, but you can't hide

True, it seems. But ... I can run faster and try to hide better!

[HW]

Has anyone ever found an alternative supply of these coils? They are made by Beru and I beleive are also fitted to the likes of BMW, Audi, Seat. Scant info on the internet though so might have to start a more "traditional" search.

[guest1]

Rumour has it that Ducati changed the manufacturer for the latest models. How true that is I don't know.
Talk from the AA geezers is that they always carry spares of the plug packs for renault, audi, vw etcetera.
The failure of these units was quite high in certain car makes (according to the aa man who gets the call to fix them).

Tough break henry
Cheers
Alan

[rob jones]

HW, Can you let me know where to find NELLY'S fault code write up.
Thanks

[HW]

For some reason I couldn't find the thread. Here is the list though

Hold left hand button down while turning ignition on. Not sure how long you have to hold it, but whould come up with EFI error and a number in the right corner. If more than one error it cycles between them.

749/999 Error Codes

1.1 TPS Disconnected
1.2 TPS short circuit to earth
2.1 Pressure Sensor short circuit to power supply
2.2 Pressure Sensor shorted to earth
3.1 Water Temp Sensor shorted to power supply
3.2 Water Temp Sensor shorted to earth
4.1 Air Temp Sensor shorted to power supply
4.2 Air Temp Sensor Shorted to earth
5.1 Battery Hi
5.2 Battery Lo

10.1 Hor. Coil shorted to power supply
10.2 Hor. Coil shorted to earth
11.1 Ver. Coil shorted to power supply
11.2 Ver. Coil shorted to earth
12.1 Inj1 shorted to power supply
12.2 Inj1 shorted to earth
13.1 Inj2 shorted to power supply
13.2 Inj2 shorted to earth
14.1 Inj3 shorted to to power supply
14.2 Inj3 shorted to earth
15.1 Inj4 shorted to powersupply
15.2 Inj4 shorted to earth
16.0 Pump Relay
17.1 LH Fan shorted to poer supply
17.2 LH Fan shorted to earth
18.1 RH Fan shorted to power supply
18.2 RH Fan shorted to earth
19.1 Starter Solenoid shorted to power supply
19.2 Starter Solenoid shorted to earth

30.0 ROM/Eprom error
34.0 Signal Panel Sensor
36.0 Speed sensor
37.0 Immobiliser (transponder)
37.1 Immobiliser (antenna)
37.2 Immoiliser (instrument panel serial driver)
37.3 Immobiliser (serial cable disconnected)
37.4 Immobiliser (ccm serial drive)
37.5 Immobiliser (key not recognised)
37.6 Can Line error



[Edited on 20-9-2005 by HW]

[HW]

Originally posted by guest1
Rumour has it that Ducati changed the manufacturer for the latest models. How true that is I don't know.
Talk from the AA geezers is that they always carry spares of the plug packs for renault, audi, vw etcetera.
The failure of these units was quite high in certain car makes (according to the aa man who gets the call to fix them).

Tough break henry
Cheers
Alan

Hmmmm .. anyone with a newish model like to whip one out so we can figure if they are different then? Please? Pretty please????

[Rally]

Must be something to do with Cadwell, Henry. Exactly the same thing happened to mine on the way up to Cadwell (as reported here.) Turned out to be the ECU. Hope yours is just a coil!

[RIIIKYL]

can anyone else join the OSC ???? - had same one cylinder problem on 999R 03 sunday am - ruined an early morning blast to the coast !!! F****

Will let you know if its coil or ecu ! -

Would I be better off buying a power commander if its the ECU ? or do i still need to replace the ECU ? - I do have the standard 999R ecu that mates to the standard exhaust (termis fitted with race ecu) ?

any advice appreciated !