Ducati Sporting Club UK > Model Specific - Discussion, Technical Problems and Help > 998 / 996 / 916 / 748 > 9** subframe interchangability!

[Harv748]

I'm been thinking about changing my 748 Bip for something else, such as a 996sps etc..but I do need to be able to carry a pillion now and again.

With, for example, a 996sps (or any of the 9** mono range), is it possible (and simple!) to change the mono subframe over to a bip one and be able to carry a pillion? How many of the parts are interchangable...is it just the subframe (and obviouslt the seat unit) that would need swapping over?

[Shazaam!]

This website will help:

http://www.gastric.com/toys/ducatibip2mono.htm#1

[Harv748]

thanks for the repies...but not quite what I'm after.

The link shows a Bip being converted to a mono...which is what I have actually done to my current bike. However...I want to know If I can go the otherway...from mono to Bip...particularly on a bike such as a 996 SPS?

I would have to change the subframe over to a BIP type...so will a bip subframe fit? Will the ECU etc locate OK in the new frame? Is there anything that could stop me from changing over the rear to allow for a pillion??

Has anyone done it?

[Karl]

Harv
Guido has done it to his 748r, I think he has a webpage on it.

[ducv2]

I've seen it done on a 996 SPS, it required a bip subframe (steel), which was then modified to take the sps ecu, which I think is a bit bigger than a normal 996 one. The subframe stayed put all the time, seat units being swopped as neccesary. Appears the job is quite easy if you have access to a mig. Hope that helps

[KeefyB]

748 Daz did it on his 748R.
He had all the bip bits for sale recently.

[skidlids]

As mentioned with the 996SPS the P8 computer mount is different to the one on the Bips which use the IAW 1.6 ECU, as does a 748R making the same job on a R easier, if you go for a 998 the computer is not a consideration as the 5.9 ECU sits on the side of the battery box.