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Old 10-Nov-2009, 11:44
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cant say I like the pictures but need to see it in the real world

Comparison and details here:

http://www.onewheeldrive.net/2009/11...990-adventure/

It's looking VERY good-and the first one is..................MINE!

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Old 10-Nov-2009, 12:15
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Do think this looks cool.


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Old 10-Nov-2009, 12:45
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Do think this looks cool.


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Ooo! That looks nice! Customer special? More info?


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Old 10-Nov-2009, 13:07
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That must mean the second one is mine then John

some great info on that site, and the comparison to the adventure and gs is excellent given that they were also on my shopping list if the new Duke turned out to not be suitable for me.

The more I read the more excited I get.
on;y real concerns now are how high the pillion seat is, and how costly those special tyres will be.

See you guys tomorrow. I've charged my camera so hope there is plenty of 'scenery' to point it at
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Old 10-Nov-2009, 13:10
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from: http://www.onewheeldrive.net/2009/11...200-in-detail/

"The gearbox and final drive ratios have also been optimised to enable the use of a higher-ratio 6th gear. This solution not only enables reduced fuel consumption, but also achieves increased riding comfort by reducing vibration. To give a practical example, if the 1198 reaches its top speed in 6th gear, the Multistrada 1200 is able to reach it in 5th gear and maintain it effortlessly in 6th."

Given just how highly the Dukes are normally geared, this sounds like 6th will be next to useless, and 5th might be too...
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Old 10-Nov-2009, 13:13
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Question to you guys who ride bikes with slipper cluteches:

do you get any engine braking, or none at all ?
I rely quite heavily on engine braking at present, which is one of the great strengths of the 996 engine.
I'm wondering if this new slipper clutch might see me needing bucket loads of rear brake instead...
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Old 10-Nov-2009, 13:53
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looks awesome, could be time to upgrade the 1000 Multi....
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Old 10-Nov-2009, 15:15
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Question to you guys who ride bikes with slipper cluteches:

do you get any engine braking, or none at all ?
I rely quite heavily on engine braking at present, which is one of the great strengths of the 996 engine.
I'm wondering if this new slipper clutch might see me needing bucket loads of rear brake instead...

Of course you get engine braking, just like any other clutch.

The slipper only engages at a certain amount of torque - because don't forget that it's correct name is a "backwards torque limiting device", the idea being to stop the back wheel turning over the engine, rather than the other (correct!) way round.

With some slipper clutches you can change this amount of torque, and also the way that it engages by different degrees on the ramp interfaces.


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dunno about the gearing as my 1198 is only happy in top at 100+mph so taller wouldn't be much use unless of course the power delivery is changed a lot, hmmmmm
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from: http://www.onewheeldrive.net/2009/11...200-in-detail/

"The gearbox and final drive ratios have also been optimised to enable the use of a higher-ratio 6th gear. This solution not only enables reduced fuel consumption, but also achieves increased riding comfort by reducing vibration. To give a practical example, if the 1198 reaches its top speed in 6th gear, the Multistrada 1200 is able to reach it in 5th gear and maintain it effortlessly in 6th."

Given just how highly the Dukes are normally geared, this sounds like 6th will be next to useless, and 5th might be too...

I have worked out the gearing charts-I know, I know, I'm a sad case-anyway the gears are all the same as existing Monster/Multistrada/ST4S with the exception of 6th-which is higher than the Monster/Multistrada, and lower than the ST4S. Since I have been informed-indirectly-by Domenicali himself that the engine with it's new tune will pull happily from 2000rpm in 6th-'like an electric motor' I don't think we have much to worry about. The gearing works out that the bike will do 154 at peak power in 6th and 167 at 10,000 rpm. Personally I don't have any doubt that with 150bhp available it will manage to hit at least 154-if not more.

I have attached the chart if anyone is interested.

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