Hi John, Check out Ventura (Motohaus Marketing) I have Ventura racks(& luggage) for both my bikes, the rack can be used just like a Renntec and they come in 2 heights, the tall one is for fitting the bag to, the lower one is called a Sport rack and it can be removed just leaving the mountings in place, might be a bit more expensive than a Renntec, but it's designed as part of a system, Hope this helps Cheers Phil |