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Old 01-Mar-2015, 15:14
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After market or alternative ignition system

Just been playing with my class B Ducati monster, I believe the engine is around 1998 as it has the rounded toothed timing belt. It ran initially on two cylinders and then wouldn't start.
A replacement BB1105 CDI ignition unit solved the problem and it's now running sweetly again ready for Brands. I have looked at replacing the spare I used but they are quite pricey.

My question is :- is there an alternative/after market system that would be better to fit and more cost effective in the long run. Perhaps a power commander or something similar.

Has anyone done something similar which is within the rules and could you enlighten me on what I need and how hard it it to do?

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Old 01-Mar-2015, 16:15
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An Ignitech unit is the way to go.
Programmable ( I have an ignition map for a 583)
It can run an electronic Tacho
You can set a rev limiter

and I think it can even drive a shift light


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Old 01-Mar-2015, 16:38
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Hi Kev,
Thanks for the reply, do I just Google "Ignitech" or can you advise me on the model and who sell them?
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Old 01-Mar-2015, 17:40
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Hi Kev,
Thanks for the reply, do I just Google "Ignitech" or can you advise me on the model and who sell them?
Cheers
Lee
I have a complete set of two coils and two igniter boxes on the mounting plate so can be swap whole no messing around. Looking for £100 as moved up to class A and have no need for them. See you at Brands and welcome to the fold.
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Old 01-Mar-2015, 18:08
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Sorry for my ignorance, are the items you are selling the type I already have fitted to my bike or a Ignitech? Though I am interested either way.
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Old 01-Mar-2015, 18:09
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Hi Kev,
Thanks for the reply, do I just Google "Ignitech" or can you advise me on the model and who sell them?
Cheers
Lee

The Ignitech for a Class B bike is the TCIP4, last time I looked
You can get them for around £160 new, again last time I looked.
They come with a harness to suit the bike they are bought for so if you buy a Ducati one it will plug straight in in place of the Igniter boxes
Attached are a few Screen Shots I have taken in the past

Andy's setup for £100 is a good deal for two OEM Igniters and 2 coils
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Can't disagree with Kev. Ignitech are ok, but you did need to be technically savvy in setting them up. I looked at the system quite closely for my TT2 Pantah (pretty much an early 600ss) and read one of Brad Black's (Brad Bike Boy) excellent articles, where he covers fitting and using the Ignitech.

I ended up going with a complete Silent Hektik Powerblock system, modifying the 600ss one to fit an earlier Pantah. This system comes with a lightweight rotor; single pickup/trigger; coils; leads; ignition box. It has 16 selectable pre determined ignition curves and is very well made. About £350 at current exchange rates, but you're getting everything!

I guess my point is, that you may end up replacing the boxes, then the coils, then the pickups, etc, in which case the SH system pans out pretty well.

Only thing is, I'm not sure that the rules allow you to fit the lighter rotor?
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Only thing is, I'm not sure that the rules allow you to fit the lighter rotor?

THEY DON'T


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Old 02-Mar-2015, 20:53
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Thanks for all of the advice so far (Kev, SeeleyG50 and for the offer of parts from Banger San) I look forward to meeting you and the rest of the club at Brands).

I contacted Ignitech and as far as I can tell the programmable TCIP4, connector adapter, USB/COM adaptor, CD rom etc and P&P is €174, approx (£126.67) depending on exchange rates. If I go this way Kev can I get a copy of you 583 ignition map?

I will hopefully be able to talk to you all at Brands to find a solution or whether to stick with the original type components or more modern versions.
I'll be in the converted ambulance with a fluorescent yellow bonnet, so feel free to drop by for a coffee/beer.
Thanks again
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If it's running ok the biggest factor is the stupid pink thing sat on the seat. Is this your first year racing?

Hope you won't be one of those namby pamby garage dwelling types,
Most of us will be in the bottom paddock with a tin in our hand anyway.


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