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Old 10-May-2006, 11:16 AM
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Brake upgrades and whether they are worth it ?

Well today was the first ride out on the new Brembo P34's....

Didn't notice an ounce of difference.... (apart from being a lot prettier ).

Bite was the same, feel was the same...

Don't know if it would feeling improved on trackday/raceday or not at this stage... but for normal road riding, i couldn't notice a thing over the standard 2 pad calipers.
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Old 10-May-2006, 11:21 AM
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What master cylinder are you using? the original one?
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Old 10-May-2006, 11:27 AM
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What master cylinder are you using? the original one?

Yep, but this isn't a MC debate... it's a caliper debate ?

unless we're thinking that the P34's with a Brembo MC would work better than P4's with a Brembo MC ?

I'm 100% convinced fitting a Brembo MC would improve things.... but surely equally on both ?
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Old 10-May-2006, 11:31 AM
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What master cylinder are you using? the original one?

Yep, but this isn't a MC debate... it's a caliper debate ?

unless we're thinking that the P34's with a Brembo MC would work better than P4's with a Brembo MC ?

I'm 100% convinced fitting a Brembo MC would improve things.... but surely equally on both ?

Oh how blind........its a size thing! if youve got your std m/cylinder that was designed to move enough fluid to actuate you std 2 pot callipers..........then asking it to work with 4 pot ones........and expect an improvement is pushing it to say the least.

Obviously your the educated one (picking me up on my spelling) do the maths!
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Old 10-May-2006, 11:31 AM
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What and you have bedded the already used sintered pads from different discs into your original used discs already.
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Old 10-May-2006, 11:35 AM
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What and you have bedded the already used sintered pads from different discs into your original used discs already.

Dunno really mate to be honest.... they are still obviously fairly 'new' in there... did a 35 mile ride up to now on them... but not a huge amount of braking.... but 5-6 decent stops....

Could well be a bedding in type scenario yeah.
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Old 10-May-2006, 11:36 AM
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What master cylinder are you using? the original one?

Yep, but this isn't a MC debate... it's a caliper debate ?

unless we're thinking that the P34's with a Brembo MC would work better than P4's with a Brembo MC ?

I'm 100% convinced fitting a Brembo MC would improve things.... but surely equally on both ?

Oh how blind........its a size thing! if youve got your std m/cylinder that was designed to move enough fluid to actuate you std 2 pot callipers..........then asking it to work with 4 pot ones........and expect an improvement is pushing it to say the least.

Obviously your the educated one (picking me up on my spelling) do the maths!


Ummm...isn't the std master cylinder on a 916 a Brembo and aren't the standard calipers 4-potters? If so, then the std master cylinder should be fine imo. FWIW I have never noticed a deficiency in the std Goldline calipers for road or track use. I would recommend better fluid, better levers (with less slack and wobble in them), pads (Performance Friction), discs (cast-iron floaters) and brake lines for track use though.

Calipers would be the last thing I changed.
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Old 10-May-2006, 11:36 AM
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What master cylinder are you using? the original one?

Yep, but this isn't a MC debate... it's a caliper debate ?

unless we're thinking that the P34's with a Brembo MC would work better than P4's with a Brembo MC ?

I'm 100% convinced fitting a Brembo MC would improve things.... but surely equally on both ?

Oh how blind........its a size thing! if youve got your std m/cylinder that was designed to move enough fluid to actuate you std 2 pot callipers..........then asking it to work with 4 pot ones........and expect an improvement is pushing it to say the least.

Obviously your the educated one (picking me up on my spelling) do the maths!

i was under the impression the MC on the 748R etc (P34's as standard) was the same as mine now ?

Is the R MC better then ?
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Old 10-May-2006, 11:37 AM
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Old 10-May-2006, 11:43 AM
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Rated by Simon Knowlson as one of the best upgrades he carried out to his 748RS over the winter and that was before he had taken a win and 2nd place in the NG F600 championships on a 6 year old bike.
I find the P34s on my 998 Hybrid have a lot more bite than the P4s on my 996 and they both use identical Brembo Radial M/Cyls
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