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Old 26-Jan-2012, 02:23 PM
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Could you fit a dry clutch to it. Or have we lost the bag of spanners for good?
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Old 26-Jan-2012, 03:29 PM
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Could you fit a dry clutch to it. Or have we lost the bag of spanners for good?

Interesting question. Having just written a large article about the Superquadro engine for the next Pronto, which will be dropping through the letterboxes soon, it is actually a servo-assisted clutch controlled by an electronic brain making it a kind-of electronic slipper clutch.
I'm sure you would be able to convert it to a dry clutch - the 848 has a Ducati pack which you can do the same (See this page) - but it's not just a case of swapping one hub for another as there's a lot more to it!


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wiring is starting to get in the way of enjoyment I think. Do you cover the clutch because I really do not want 10kg of spanners in my rucksack.
If the Panigale has some kind of electronic feedback to the ecu and perhaps actuation then how would an analogue slipper fit?
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Old 31-Jan-2012, 12:49 AM
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If the Panigale has some kind of electronic feedback to the ecu and perhaps actuation then how would an analogue slipper fit?

You wouldn't be able to fit an "old-style" slipper clutch (as they will now become known!) to it without some hacking of the wiring to disable/fool the servo feedback. I would go so far as to say the 1199 clutch is the most sophisticated slipper you'll get on a private bike right now - that's OEM or after market!


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I really do not want 10kg of spanners in my rucksack.

So what does a Ipod and a amplified Speaker weigh

I thought the GP11 had a dry clutch with the same sort of controls so who knows what will be in the DP catalouge
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Old 31-Jan-2012, 10:53 AM
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The Clutch is pretty much the same as the MTS1200 with slightly different springs, so there is no electronics on the clutch what actually happens is there is a system that opens the throttle butterflies slightly on downshifts automatically.
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i think the tech speak may have confused things a little...Ducati have termed all their wet clutches "servo" assisted to highlight the lighter feel. I not aware of any electronic trickery on the clutch actuator itself. It's lighter, but feels/works just like say a 848 with the engine off etc. I haven't seen any valve or such like in the hydraulic circuit from lever to slave..
There is a slipper mechanism in the drum and also the EBC (engine braking control) that will act if the wheel locks out.
Not sure how feasible a dry conversion would be. The ensine casing is much bigger than the 848 and covering a lot more moving parts. Almost Seidici' esque in size. Sure someone will have a go though

The bike still sounds like a Ducati though


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I blame the MCN reporting then, as they called it an "electronic slipper clutch" !!
I guess the confusion comes around Ducati's own press releases calling it a "servo" mechanism, which is generally related to electronically driven motors, thrown in with the complex EBC setup!


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Old 31-Jan-2012, 12:34 PM
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MCN......nuff said

Heh. I remember reading through their 12-page 1199 "Launch Special" with exclusive access and the like, thinking this is exactly the same as the press release...


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