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smilo006
21-Sep-2004, 09:24
The description says one thing, the pictures show a completely different one.
996S model with Ohlins front forks and damper but it has three spoke wheels, a gold frame, showa front forks and a boge damper. 996S 2001, this first registered in 2003.
Mmmmm.....:puzzled:

Desmondo
21-Sep-2004, 09:28
Very odd. 3 spokes weren't put on the bikes after '99 apart from the lowest model 748 for a little while.

smilo006
24-Sep-2004, 09:30
He says that he did not like the grey frame and five spoke wheels,so he got the factory to custom build one. He also said that he copied the text of the advert fromanother and therfore the details about ohlins suspension were incorrect. Smells....

antonye
24-Sep-2004, 10:37
Is this on ebay or somewhere like DucatiTrader.com ?
Sounds like a scam to me too...

Rattler
24-Sep-2004, 11:01
Very smelly indeed - maybe its just an old pic.

Where is it advertised?

ziggi
24-Sep-2004, 11:02
I guess you are talking about this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9919&item=2491037984&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)

996S differences compared to this bike
* frame colour
* wheels
* front showa forks should be titanium nitride coated
* The panels are from a 748 - the 996S bikes have 996 in silver not Ducati logo

Things that do look right -
* it's got 50mm exhaust all the way (no link pipe)
* brake disks look right
* rear shock
* tank

Get the frame number and engine number then you'll be able to tell. Reg number also you can do an HPI check.

If it's a 996S the frame number will start ZDMH100A

Rattler
24-Sep-2004, 11:11
If it was built less than a year ago in the Ducati factory, I reckon it must have been built out of parts from the skip!!!

Why would they still build a 996S with a SPS engine and old gold frame and 3 spoke wheels?

I reckon someone's been visiting a Ducati breakers and building a bike!!

If I was having a bike built by the factory, I reckon I'd go for newer parts rather than old - and why go to all that hassle just to sell it up 10 months later for a 999.

The only real truth in the text is the "one of a kind"!!!

yeti
24-Sep-2004, 11:17
This is crap, there is no way he would do all this cos it's gonna make it all but unsellable. I also spotted the headlight shroud is gold rather than silver. Wouldn't touch this with the proverbial bargepole.

chris99
24-Sep-2004, 12:08
:o £6000 - He's lost it for sure. No way would i even think about that bike

JPM
24-Sep-2004, 12:37
I emailed the guy also, and again he claimed he didn't like the silver/grey frame so requested that Ducati build him a one off!!! and also he didn't like the 5 spoke wheels, and he claimed the 3 spokes were lighter, Hmmmm...

Plus the stuff you guys have already mentioned, no if you could ask Ducati directly to build you a bike from the wheels up, it isn't going to be a road bike is it?

God I've been to JHP and seen bikes built up from the wheels, and you're looking at 50K+ bikes, which to me seems more of a logical thing to do.

antonye
24-Sep-2004, 14:58
Maybe, as per the advert, you should call Ducati London South and speak to them about it?

Twinfan
24-Sep-2004, 15:07
Must be worth a call from someone?

andyb
24-Sep-2004, 15:09
in this sellers ebay history hes bought a set of part worn, only done one track day, pirellis 190/120s. Might be another person of course, but gives a bit of credability to ownership of a bike of sorts.

antonye
24-Sep-2004, 15:36
I don't think the ownership is in doubt, more the actual history of the bike - do Ducati really build custom spec machines? A lot of it is old kit - SPS engine, 3 spoke wheels, gold frame, vented fairing and so on.

Doesn't quite sound right...

JPM
24-Sep-2004, 16:11
Exactly... sounds more like an older bike being fobbed off as newer bike

smilo006
27-Sep-2004, 10:50
It was that one mentioned. Agree with the last comment.

Mr_S
27-Sep-2004, 11:11
Either that, or the guy who had it built's a complete fruit loop, and whoever built it for him was laughing all the way to the bank...:burn:

yeti
27-Sep-2004, 12:35
This is a scrapper or an import. Probably the latter and it's been registered as newer than it is.

Road Runner
27-Sep-2004, 20:13
I agree yeti leave it well alone:rolleye:

bradders
27-Sep-2004, 20:22
my guess would be an old sps that has been laying around unsold and unregistered. Only thing is, it isnt numbered?? but otherwise looks almost identical to my 98 and a mates 00 reg 916sps.

DJ Tera
27-Sep-2004, 20:45
Originally posted by yeti
This is a scrapper or an import. Probably the latter and it's been registered as newer than it is.

Unless you have good forgeries of the relevant documents its impossible to register an import on an age related plate, if age can't be proven it gets a Q plate I think? :puzzled: