can someone please help me .........

[deej]

..................... out with all the differnet varieties of the 748.

i would like a 748 r if i can stretch my budget that far,but after looking at a few this weekend im a touch confused as to what model,year to go for.

i would like it to be red and have the marchesini wheels and carbon cans if poss, dont ask for much do i

i would say im a average,confident, fairly fast road rider,im no track god or anything silly like that. when im out with my mates they will all be on r6's,cbr6rr's etc thats why i'd like a R for the xtra performance

does the newer R with full ohlins make that much difference than the R with showa ??? and why do all the red ones seem so much dearer ???

would i better off saving some cash and going for a 748sps or just a newer S model , would a bip with single seat option be a more sensible option

please help as im a touch confused as to what to do so any advice welcome :frog:

[JPM]

Deej,

Personally if it were me, I'd go for one of the later (last) ones, with the new style bodywork, and ohlins f/r, you'll get 5 spoke Marchesini wheels, 50mm pipes, stand (??)

It all depends on how much you want to spend and I guess from a selfish point of view, if you got the early model, with the old style fairing, and showa front, would you be thinking, wish I had spent that bit more to get the ohlins and the new bodywork?

I guess red will be more expensive being a Ducati, depends on what you're after, there's a few about red/yellow.

What sort of budget are you on?

[deej]

all depends on what i get for my r6, was offered £2500 part ex for it over the weekend so about £7k tops

would a wk51 plate 748r have the pipes and stand as standard, saw 1 this weekend at a dealer which had stainless branded termi's,no stand but had only done 300miles with 1 owner, i thought all the R's came with race cans as standard ?????

would a bike with 6000 miles be a better but than a bike with 300miles ???

[AK]

Deej, have you been to the bike shop in Bude (well, just on the outskirts of the town - in the industrial park)?
Last week they had a clean looking red 748 (but cant remember whether it was an R tho - sorry), also a 996 & a 999. The 996 was a bit 'pricey' if I remember rightly tho.

C

[deej]

yeah, gerald can be a bit pricey but he will also do a good deal, i think the 996 is up for £6k and the 748 is his own track bike, didnt know about the 999 mind you

might ask the guy who's downtraining me to be a instructor to have a word as he can get good deals out of him

he sold my mate a r6 this year, he knocked £250 off asking price and then sold him some a'stars boots.arai parkes rep. a'stars sp2 gloves and diadora leathers for £550 all in, thats a good deal

[deej]

aaahh, thanks weeksy

i though they would be full termi's not just a pair of branded ducati/termi's

think i'll try and do a deal on the 6000 miler tomorrow then,£4500 cash plus a r6 for a bike they want £7300 for should do especially with the market so slow at the moment

would £7k sound about right for a 748r,51plate,6300miles, fdsh,in good condition, its been reduced from £8300 which i think was a bit high

[Nattyboy]

After reading your post DJ..I cant help thinking youdbe better off with an S model....which will give you the marchesini wheels and the later testastretta style bodywork you are looking for.

Apart from being more pricey, the 748R can be a little finicky to set up , and I believe maintenance schedules are more stringent (read more expensive) due to its higher state of tune (someone like Nelly can explain this better than me!).

Fuelling is also more difficult to get 'spot on' I understand.

Dont be blinded by the ohlins forks...! The S's showa suspension is more than upto the job...and you can buy a single seat unit/termis cheap as chips nowadays !

Anyone..come on..pull your finger out...youve been talking about this for ages now :D:lol:

Good luck
Nat

[fil2]

2002 748R ..is th ebest 748R built...go for it if yoiu can get it...the OHLINS over showa the uprated brakes etc etc make for a serious bike.......

I had a 748S and sold it to buy a 748R...best thing i ever did..get the best m8 get the 748R..u wont regret it...

[antonye]

The R model started from 2000 which was the only one to have the Ohlins rear but Showa front. From 2001 onwards it had Ohlins all round. All of the R models have grey 5 spokes (cast, not mags) and grey frame though. The 2002 model will have the 998 style (unvented, single-piece) fairings and also the 4-pad calipers as Fil says.

I've got an S model and it's far more capable than me! It's amazing the difference a good suspension setup gives you in terms of confidence in the bike. Having the few extra horses would be nice, but most of that has been solved by changing the gearing.

[chris99]

Hi Deej,

I thought the same as you mate but in the end went for an S. Its a 2002 one so has the smooooooooooth 998 style fairing. It has a single seat unit and carbon race cans so apart from the forks it looks just like an R. As you know i had an R6 before and im 100% sure you will still be able to keep up with your mates on the 748. I went for the S because its cheaper to buy run and insure. The saving will be spent on petrol and sticky tyres. I also found that i dont feel the need to ride as hard because i know i look far cooler then most other bikers and the 748 is as fun to ride at 70 as the R6 was at 130.

[JPM]

If you wanted a Yellow one, I can imagine one which might be for sale, 2002, 12K, FSH, Ohlins, all the toys etc.

Probably 7K(ish)

[antonye]

Originally posted by jpmercer
If you wanted a Yellow one, I can imagine one which might be for sale, 2002, 12K, FSH, Ohlins, all the toys etc.
Probably 7K(ish)

Does she know about this? :lol:

[Lily]

[i]Originally posted by antonye

Does she know about this? :lol:

I do now!!

I have a picture if you are interested Deej, but cant seem to post it (probably because i am in it :lol: )

[Edited on 27-9-2004 by Lily]

[Guido]

Deej,

Just a pointer which has been discussed on the boards many time before.

The 2001 748R came with Ohlins all round, bike cover but the Boge damper and no race/track pipes.

2002 models got the extra set of race pipes and Ohlins damper, as wel as paddock stand and cover.

Go for it...you'll not be disappointed.

Guido (2001 Red 748R owner)

[deej]

natty

i know ive been on about it for a while but im struggling to sell the r6, its a very slow market at the moment. d-aylesbury will allow me £2500 trade in for it which i think is fairly reasonable for a trade in and will save a lot of hassle but will obviously cost me a bit as i'll have to pay dealers prices but theyre getting desperate for the sales too

so if you know anyone wanting a r6 email me then i can get my 748



cheers for all the advice so far, i didnt think it would be this hard to buy a ducati but it is

dave

[PDL]

Deej,

I ride a 748 Bip 1998. I aint no track rider and my mates ride R6s, Gixer 750s, RF600s, TLRs, TRX etc, and the Bip keeps up with them all and thrashes them into and out of corners. Only mods are Scorpion race can and Eprom chip.
Ducati make class machines save your money get a Bip.

Dont worry about it being an SPS, S, Bip or an R what you really need to watch out for is the colour, as Yellow ones are faster.

[desmojen]

Deej, at the end of the day you'll get what you want, but I have to say (being an opinionated old wafflebag!) if you are road riding get an S. The R is far less easy to ride on the road, and frankly, most people will go faster on an S as it has much better mid range and is more accesible generally.
I don't think the service schedule is any different but, honestly, the S is a far better road bike ;)
thats not to say the R is pants, far from it! But all I got from mine on the road was backache, wristache, neckache, kneeache and a hot bum!!
:lol:

[deej]

sounds fair enough to me.

thanks for all your help, i think ive found the bike im after and ive got a guy who used to have a red bull r6 and wants another 1 coming to looka t mine on thursday so im hoping to be on a duke within 2 weeks fingers crossed

[fil2]

Originally posted by desmojen
Deej, at the end of the day you'll get what you want, but I have to say (being an opinionated old wafflebag!) if you are road riding get an S. The R is far less easy to ride on the road, and frankly, most people will go faster on an S as it has much better mid range and is more accesible generally.
I don't think the service schedule is any different but, honestly, the S is a far better road bike ;)
thats not to say the R is pants, far from it! But all I got from mine on the road was backache, wristache, neckache, kneeache and a hot bum!!
:lol:

I disagree totally....i went from a 748S to a 748R and the difference on the road is great.....the whole package lends to a far superior machine for road or track...the POWER on the 748R is much stronger than the 748S thru the midrange and top end......the difference in comfort does not come into it..its a race bike not a virago...

get the R its the best there is...

[PDL]

Deej, lets get one thing straight, these bikes are not comfy, your arm chair in your front room is comfy. These are race bikes, that are on the road, your hands and arse will hurt, you will be deafend, and you wont be able to lift your head high enough to read road signs.

BUT you are buying the best experience you will ever have, Ducatis are class, asthetically beautifull and perfectly engineered. :devil:

[Rocker]

Originally posted by Desmo748


BUT you are buying the best experience you will ever have, Ducatis are class, asthetically beautifull and perfectly engineered. :devil:

Are you sure about the second point when it comes to my multistrada?;)

[PDL]

Originally posted by Rocker
Originally posted by Desmo748


BUT you are buying the best experience you will ever have, Ducatis are class, asthetically beautifull and perfectly engineered. :devil:

Are you sure about the second point when it comes to my multistrada?;)

I am sure you love it really, in a mysterious way. It a Ducati, it has style, style and more style.;)

[Rocker]

Originally posted by Desmo748
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I am sure you love it really, in a mysterious way. It a Ducati, it has style, style and more style.;)

I love it to bits but then my wife loves me (almost as much as her Hornet) and I'm certainly not atractive:lol:

[yorkshire pud]

god i must be abnornal.am 5ft 6. i find my 996bib. like riding in my arm chair. fits like a glove.:burn:

[chris99]

Originally posted by yorkshire pud
god i must be abnornal.am 5ft 6. i find my 996bib. like riding in my arm chair. fits like a glove.:burn:

Im 6ft 2 and i find it gets harder after about 29 mins but doesnt get any worse after that. i wouldnt ever call in comfortable:D

[deej]

depends on what your used to riding, i would say that the r6 was comfortable afetr riding my rvf400

[chris99]

I think the R6 was like an armchair compared to the Duke. You will prob be right at home after a 400 deej

[moto748]

I'm another one with no real comfort issues (just to cheer you up! :) ).
I'm 5' 11" and average build. It's not an armchair, but I don't find comfort a ride-reducing issue. At any decent "open-road" speed, I find it pretty OK. I rode to the Highlands in a day last Summer (620 miles), and didn't feel crippled on arrival. And I'm twice the age of some of the youmg whipper-snappers on this forum!

[deej]

we'll just see how i feela fter riding it 250 miles on saturday