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drunkinvegas
09-Nov-2004, 23:54
I want my 748 back ST died today. the old girl just wont start full stop. she going back to shop tomorrow.

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::(:(

moozaad
10-Nov-2004, 16:00
thats some bad luck.
I've never found reliability a big issue with ST's. My ST2 has had the warranty generator/rotor fix but thats all over 4 years

drunkinvegas
10-Nov-2004, 16:44
Well the old girl is back at the dealers they seem as baffled as me. Have to wait and see what they say. Anyone out there know somewhere good to take ducati's other than main dealers, i'm in the north east of england.

rockhopper
10-Nov-2004, 17:42
Cornespeed!!!

beancounter
10-Nov-2004, 17:49
What use is Cornerspeed (Nottingham) to someone who lives in the north east ?

ath748
10-Nov-2004, 17:53
The same us as it is to us in the south who use him/will be using him!

:frog::frog:

Glyn
10-Nov-2004, 19:41
corner speed were ever you are
i think he collects aswell
free tea and chocy bickies
+meet all the other dsc there
what more can you ask for

rockhopper
10-Nov-2004, 20:29
Plenty of folks travel from all over to get there. Neil will also collect the bike if its not running.

I wouldnt go anywhere else and i know lots of people who think the same.

Didnt he have one guy who rode over from Germany for a service?

NBs996
10-Nov-2004, 20:36
ok, since this looks like it's turning into a "let's all worship nelly" type thread.....
Portsmouth to Cornerspeed = 200miles each way. Didn't stop me! I rest my case. We love you nelleeee, we doooo.....

beancounter
11-Nov-2004, 10:48
So let me get this straight.....

There are only two individuals in the whole of the UK who can be trusted to work on Ducatis - Nelly at Cornerspeed and, of course, Lord Hackett of Coventry.

Get real ! this isn't rocket science, these are relatively simple v-twin motorcycles, and most of the time we are talking about routine servicing, not race-tuning to the nth degree (where the talents of Mr. Hackett could possibly be justified).

This "I only trust so and so to work on my pride and joy" is just the kind of product snobbery that gets Ducati owners a bad name with other bike people.

TP
11-Nov-2004, 11:16
Originally posted by beancounter
So let me get this straight.....

There are only two individuals in the whole of the UK who can be trusted to work on Ducatis - Nelly at Cornerspeed and, of course, Lord Hackett of Coventry.

Get real ! this isn't rocket science, these are relatively simple v-twin motorcycles, and most of the time we are talking about routine servicing, not race-tuning to the nth degree (where the talents of Mr. Hackett could possibly be justified).

This "I only trust so and so to work on my pride and joy" is just the kind of product snobbery that gets Ducati owners a bad name with other bike people.

Mate, I don't know you from a bar of soap but no-one said anything of the sort. If you took a step back there are other people on here who use other places. I happen to use Cornerspeed for servicing etc even though he is over 150 miles from me. For lots of reasons:
1. Reasonably priced
2. He's a good bloke (this counts for a lot for me)
3. Gives a lot to members of the club in the way of free advice and helpful hints
4. Get to meet the majority of the Notts crew when you're up ther eand whoever else happens to be around
5. Goes out of his way, beyond the call, to help people out when they need it AND doesn't then try to take advantage of the situation

But thats my choice isn't it? Not for you to criticise. If you don't want to use him then don't.

I've also used Sigma Performance who is in Kent and the work Neil Spalding did transformed my bike. Would highly recommend him but it's horses for courses .. so use whoever you want.

drunkinvegas
11-Nov-2004, 11:20
Thanks for that beancounter. I dont want to travel half way down the country just to get a bike sorted ducati or not. I just wanted to know someone that is good at what they do and wont take my eyes out when it comes to paying the bill. routine servicing i will be doing myself, its more the likes of getting it set up and electrical gubbins that i dont like tackle.

well i get the old girl back today. the problem was a download problem something to do with the coil and igniter.

beancounter
11-Nov-2004, 11:22
Good luck drunkinvegas, hope you are back on the road soon !

dickieducati
11-Nov-2004, 11:37
Originally posted by tp-996
I've also used Sigma Performance who is in Kent and the work Neil Spalding did transformed my bike.

shame he couldnt transform your riding too. :o

no i agree with you tony, use who you want but without question some people are better than others and although i havnt used him myself nelly does come very well regarded on here. if you have confidence in the person doing the work stick with them.

for me i havnt found someone who i can say hand on heart i trust them with my bike and that is after 5 years with ducati's. im taking mine up to jhp in dec for the first time. if they are as good as people say they are then it will be well worth the trip imho.

TP
11-Nov-2004, 11:48
Originally posted by dickieducati
Originally posted by tp-996
I've also used Sigma Performance who is in Kent and the work Neil Spalding did transformed my bike.

shame he couldnt transform your riding too. :o


No that was Andy Ibbott via Il Duce, I think I'm the only club member to pay for the Il Duce to transform their riding.

You'll see ;)

dickieducati
11-Nov-2004, 11:53
oooooooooooh.....gauntlet being thrown down ????

NBs996
11-Nov-2004, 12:36
Originally posted by beancounter
So let me get this straight.....

There are only two individuals in the whole of the UK who can be trusted to work on Ducatis - Nelly at Cornerspeed and, of course, Lord Hackett of Coventry.

Get real ! this isn't rocket science, these are relatively simple v-twin motorcycles, and most of the time we are talking about routine servicing, not race-tuning to the nth degree (where the talents of Mr. Hackett could possibly be justified).

This "I only trust so and so to work on my pride and joy" is just the kind of product snobbery that gets Ducati owners a bad name with other bike people.

What the F***!!!

Beanbloke, I really wish I was like you... you know, never been ripped off, never had to get home and re-do all the work yourself, never had a dealer break your bike and deny it or tell you a porkie to cover his cockup, or charge you £50+ an hour only to have the apprentice do your bike....

Mate, you find someone you can trust, usually by recommendation, then you stick with what works. What's it got to do with snobbery?

TP
11-Nov-2004, 12:45
Originally posted by dickieducati
oooooooooooh.....gauntlet being thrown down ????

:lol:

Not quite, I've still got two levels and a lot of track experience to go to catch up to you... and then pass you ...

beancounter
11-Nov-2004, 12:51
Sorry if I wasn't clear.

drunkinvegas wanted a recomendation for an independent in the north east, where he lives (read his subsequent post)

instead he got directed to nelly in nottingham (and please be clear, i'm not having any sort of go at cornerspeed here, great place)

there are lots of independents up and down the country doing great work on our bikes - no need to go to main dealers (I don't any more)

but the attitude that only so-and-so is worthy of working on my bike is widespread here and in my view (hopefully I'm entitled to one) is unnecessary.

TP
11-Nov-2004, 13:00
Originally posted by beancounter
Sorry if I wasn't clear.

drunkinvegas wanted a recomendation for an independent in the north east, where he lives (read his subsequent post)

instead he got directed to nelly in nottingham (and please be clear, i'm not having any sort of go at cornerspeed here, great place)

there are lots of independents up and down the country doing great work on our bikes - no need to go to main dealers (I don't any more)

but the attitude that only so-and-so is worthy of working on my bike is widespread here and in my view (hopefully I'm entitled to one) is unnecessary.

Have a look around the board a bit more and you'll see that while some people will only go to Cornerspeed for servicing others will go to places like Pro Twins etc .. I think you were quick to jump to that conclusion and quick to tell us to 'get real' without really knowing all the facts.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion - it's only when people voice their own and you pop up telling them to 'get real'. If you respected everyone's right to have their opinion you could state your different opinion without having a pop at other peoples and thus avoid the ensuing debate.

So, I'm off to the pub for lunch with Dickie.

Enjoy :D

[Edited on 11-11-2004 by tp-996]

rockhopper
11-Nov-2004, 13:40
I disagree and has been said already in this thread people are quite prepared to travel some distance to get a good job done. Snobbery doesn’t come into it, it’s a simple fact that certain service people do a good job for fair money and will not rip you off. If someone treats me well then I will sing their praises, if someone rips me off then I will be straight on here and tell the world about it.
Over the years I have had a number of bikes and had dealings with many dealers all over the country. There are only a very few that I would trust with my bike/money. Personally I wouldn’t go back to JHP because they failed to fix my ST2 but still charged me so I don’t recommend them to people. I lost all confidence in the dealer who supplied the bike when they suggested it might help to get a dynojet kit fitted. Another independent dealer insisted that the ST2 was air cooled and the big thing above the front wheel was infact an oil cooler.

Perhaps the problem is that people think that Ducati’s are easy to work on. Any engine of less than 1000cc’s which produces over 100hp is in a very high state of tune, there are not many cars that produce over 100hp per litre. Servicing is not simple. I would and have done fairly major work on my car (including head gasket and cam belt changes) but the most I will do to the bike is change the oil and plugs. Valve clearances etc will be left to a specialist whether that be Cornerspeed or someone else if I find them to be better. Also fault finding on the later bikes is impossible without the specialist Ducati diagnostic equipment.

I’m sorry if you feel that the original poster was not prepared to travel to get the work done. Personally I and many other would be. I do not know Drunkinvegas so I felt it was only fair to inform him of who my choice would be and let him make up his own mind. Also his posting doesn’t say anything about how far he would be prepared to travel.

ath748
11-Nov-2004, 15:05
Wow, real handbags at dawn post :lol:

But let's agree that we're all entitled to our own opinions! :bouncy::bouncy::bouncy:

ath748
11-Nov-2004, 15:05
Mine of course being best.

beancounter
11-Nov-2004, 15:14
I do enjoy a lively debate !

NBs996
11-Nov-2004, 15:18
Originally posted by beancounter
I do enjoy a lively debate !

Yeah, so do I... This one seems not to have much substance tho, and nelly's stolen my handbag :(

Lest start on TP's haircut sponsorship :devil:

drunkinvegas
11-Nov-2004, 20:25
bloody hell wish i'd never asked :lol::lol::lol:

all this arguing and still nobody has told me anywhere in the north east :lol:

NBs996
11-Nov-2004, 20:37
not much good really are we vegas!

BDG
11-Nov-2004, 20:46
drunkinvegas (is that south shields by anychance!)

I and many others heartly reccommend Nelly and travel quite some distance but i appreciate you want someone on your doorstep.

A mate of mine up your neck of the woods (ex Ducati owner) used to swear by an independant guy near Newcastle. I've left a message on said mates answer machine and asked him for the contact details. I'll post them as and when i get them.

BDG
11-Nov-2004, 20:47
Originally posted by NBs996
not much good really are we vegas!

Speak for yerself oh ye of little faith:P

drunkinvegas
11-Nov-2004, 21:06
I'm not a sanddancer i'm in Cramlington yes just as bad i know!! thanks i appreciate it BDG. Got the bike back from M&S in Newcastle 99.9% sure they haven't done a thing to it, its still a Cr*p starter.

BDG
12-Nov-2004, 12:21
Drunkincramlington,(not quite as exotic a name) but in answer to your search try Mark on 01207 562113 or 07989 562113. Good luck.

drunkinvegas
12-Nov-2004, 13:15
Thanks for that BDG i will give him a call.

I spent 3months touring the States on an SV650 and was very very drunk at the time (more so in las vegas) hense the name:lol::bouncy:

BDG
12-Nov-2004, 14:54
Originally posted by drunkinvegas

I spent 3months touring the States on an SV650 and was very very drunk at the time (more so in las vegas) hense the name:lol::bouncy:

Sounds brilliant fun

Jools
12-Nov-2004, 15:51
If you're prepared to do uncomplicated, routine work yourself you could do worse than whip all the fairings off and give all the electrical connectors a good clean and a wipe over with an oily rag (I don't mean that literally by the way, WD40 will do nicely).

In 3 years, my ST has only failed to start three times. In all cases it was an electrical fault. First was a flat battery (which was my own stoopid fault), second was the crankshaft sensor having corroded contacts (just needed a clean, coincidentally by Cornerspeed) and third time was at the Cat & Fiddle when the sidestand cut out switch relay needed scratching clean with KeefyB's thumbnail to make good contact.

You see the pattern here? All the sensors and relays have connectors into the wiring loom that live underneath the fairing and suffer from the damp (especially in winter and wet weather riding), and there are any number of them that can introduce an electrical fault and have you scratching your head. For example if the sidestand relay doesn't kick in, the fuel pump doesn't prime and the starter button won't work. Leads you to think it's something major when all it is is dirty or slightly corroded contacts.

Go round 'em all with a bit of emery cloth and WD40. Having been bitten twice I do it a couple of times a year as part of my regular maintenance pattern now.

kwikbitch
13-Nov-2004, 10:52
Originally posted by beancounter

there are lots of independents up and down the country doing great work on our bikes - no need to go to main dealers (I don't any more)

but the attitude that only so-and-so is worthy of working on my bike is widespread here and in my view (hopefully I'm entitled to one) is unnecessary.

Nelly'isn't a main dealer.....
Just a great bloke that'll do owt for anyone above and beyond...
AND it's worth it just to pop up on Saturday and see if I'm there!!!!!;):lol::P:o

Oh! I take milk in my coffee!!!:saint:

Athelstan
15-Nov-2004, 22:00
kwikbitch
the next time i'm in the uk (next season) i'll do just that - just to see if you are there :-)))):P