camera on an sps

[bradders]

so, been looking at a bullet cam but where do I put the camera? Cant carry backpack etc on trackdays (I think??) so needs to be hidden somewhere, but dont think it will fit under the seat. Any guys done this and have some advice?

[Harv748]

I would have thought, and know of some, who have put the camcorder under the seat (well protected) and then run the bullet cam from various locations around the bike.

Providing you don't have some 'del boy' monster recorder...I would have thought it would have fit OK under the seat.

[Mr_S]

Paul,
I fit mine under the rear seat ( Bip subframe though).

Since I got the track fairing I've been thinking about mounting the bullet in the from fairing and the camera in the headlight housing surrounded by foam. I have to use a remote to operate the external camera anyway so it doesn't need to be easily accessible.

I think Guido mounts his in a pack on the yoke?

[bradders]

Harv - I have a huge chip thingy under there and dont even have room for a tool kit, cant really see how I would have room for a camera and the padding needed to protect it - also it would sit on top of the zorsts.

[bradders]

Jas - I thought of the headlight, but I have an open front fairing so I would need to get another, but if this is the only option...also would mean I couldnt use on the road

[Mr_S]

How big's the camera? Will it fit in a yoke mounted pack?

Heat's definitely an issue with the other mounting locations I could think of.

I believe you can use a closed from fairing during daylight hours, popped into town with mine on last week straight past the one mobile copper we have in town without a problem, so this may be an option.

How about using a closed fairing for the track, and a back pack / tank bag for the road?

[Guido]

Bradders,

Have to dash out now but will post details of my setup later on this evening, and you can then pick my brains if you wish after reading the info.

Guido

[Guido]

Thinking aloud quickly and having read the other posts.

On the road you can have as many packs on you or the bike so location on the camcorder is not so much of an issue (to others anyway, but is maybe to you???)

Your main issues are on trackdays etc where they are more keen now on items that 'could' fall off. They (trackday organisers) have various limitations in order that they can get insurance cover for their days. One main caviat is all bikes are checked for anything that could come off and affect other riders. On that note, bumbags, rucksacks etc are not allowed with the bigger operations. They're also concerned about you getting injured bouncing down the track with a rucksack/bumbag on.

There are ways around it on track so long as your camcroder isn't huge/doesn't come with a full soundcrew with fluffy boom mics etc (you get my drift)

Will chat later when I have more time.

Gc

[bradders]

cheers guido - be really interested in a pic of the yoke fitted way. being honest, not keen on a ruck sack etc, would rather be able to mount and forget

[Rattler]

I always stuck the camera under the seat - its pretty safe in there inside the subframe - the cigar camera was mounted underneath the nose fairing - sorted!!:burn:

[Guido]

At long last Bradders........sorry for the delay, but am having major probs with VirginNet at the mo' and couldn't get online.

Here's some pics I've taken tonight of my yoke setup.

The first one gives you an idea of the size of the camcorder I'm using on-bike. It's a Sony DCR-PC101E. It would fit under my seat in between the subframe rails but that space is taken up with the power supply and switcher units that control my three bullet cams.

http://freespace.virgin.net/guy.cope/images/DSC%20Adhoc/Camcorder%20on%20Yokes%20001a.JPG

This shot shows you the camcorder in between the yokes and the clocks. It'll sit fairly snug to the headstock once it's placed in the bumbag I use.

http://freespace.virgin.net/guy.cope/images/DSC%20Adhoc/Camcorder%20on%20Yokes%20001.JPG

These two are of the bag on it's own. I use velcro straps to secure the bag around the headstock. This means the bag can move freely in line with the forks when turning corners. The camcorder is small enough to rotate in the plane of the forks without jamming on the clock surround. When the nose cone is in situ, it has the added benefit of obscuring the whole setup from prying trackday organiser eyes etc who might say you can't use it even tho it cannot go anywhere (unless I cartwheel the bike and then the camcorder flying about would be the last of their worries).

http://freespace.virgin.net/guy.cope/images/DSC%20Adhoc/Camcorder%20on%20Yokes%20002.JPG
http://freespace.virgin.net/guy.cope/images/DSC%20Adhoc/Camcorder%20on%20Yokes%20003.JPG

The control on my left handlebar with 5 coloured buttons is the remote switcher unit that I use to change from one camera view to another when I have more than one bullet camera rigged up. These have gotten smaller now as mine was a bit of a prototype design.

As far as the switcher unit and power supply goes. Have a chat with Phillip Mace at Highview Electronics (http://www.highviewelectronics.co.uk/) . He's the guru on all things electronic as far as on-bike video goes. I'd go as far as saying he's your 'on-stop-shop'. He'll sort you out with the cameras and any logistics you need to get them working on your bike (e.g. the power supply unit he did for me runs all my bullet cams and my switcher unit from the bike's battery - no more buggering about with packs of AA batteries than run out on you - just as you're passing Bayliss on the outside ;) ) I have used RF Concepts but suffice to say I need more than just a camera, and their camera packed up on me too.

Any more info needed mate, drop me a line.

Guy

[bradders]

cheers guido - helps alot.....just seen a dixons special for 299 which has dv in/out...trip to the shops for me at the weekend???? then for a bullet cam

[Desmondo]

Originally posted by bradders
dv in/out
No good mate. It needs to have analogue in so make sure you check :)

[Mr_S]

If it's the Canon MV730i then it's the next one up from mine (MV630i) and has AV in using a special cable (supplied in the box)

Dixon's are currently doing that at £299.00.

[bradders]

Originally posted by Mr_S
If it's the Canon MV730i then it's the next one up from mine (MV630i) and has AV in using a special cable (supplied in the box)

Dixon's are currently doing that at £299.00.

theres also the cannon MV700 - think this will work aswell...???

[JasonBoswell]

Bradders - make sure whatever you buy has AV IN for it to accept the cables from the bullet cam (as they're analogue signals).

Also, I manage to get my Panasonic camera under the seat of my BP fine, and theres no prob with heat/vibration etc.

Let me know if you need any help,
J--

[Mr_S]

Paul,

If you want to borrow a bullet to try it in the shop, let me know and you can pop round and borrow one. Although it'll have to be picked up this week as I'm off to Florida for a week on Sat morning.

[bradders]

well - got the cam so just to try a bullet....

[Mr_S]

pop round mon / tues if you want to borrow mine then.

[bradders]

cool - thanks Jas, I'll try and pop round on way home 2night.
Paul