View Full Version : Brancato Engineering - Great Help!
antonye
27-Jan-2005, 16:45
Just been on the phone for the last half an hour to Brancato Engineering, talking about the DD race series.
They're making the race fairings for 600SS bikes which you'll need to get your order in quickly if you want one!
Prices are:
Full fairing: sides + top = £325
Catch Tray to ACU spec for above = £40 - 50 (tbc)
Screen: £47 or £48 for 900ss style double bubble
Seat Unit (SuperLight style) = £145
Seat Mounting Kit (oem Ducati parts) = £45
Seat Pad (stick on) £40
Seat Pad (bolt on) £70
They also supply all sorts of mods and parts for the series which you may find really helpful, including uprated wheel adjusters, oil filler caps, 14t front sprockets and a range of rears from 37 to 43 and possibly 44 as well.
Give them a call - they're hopefully putting together a DD specific sheet with a whole load of useful stuff on it which will be really handy.
[edit to correct seat style]
[Edited on 28-1-2005 by antonye]
antonye
27-Jan-2005, 17:31
Well, that's the only thing when they're the only place making them!
It's not like it's a mass produced piece of UJM, is it...
antonye
27-Jan-2005, 17:47
Well I could easily race with the standard fairing, or take it off altogether, to keep the costs down. Even running with cheap stuff off ebay is an option.
BUT I was to replace the fairing with race stuff that will swap straight over to keep the genuine Ducati parts unmarked. The seat unit also weighs a ton, so replacing this also helps to save weight.
So far I'm upto just under 1600 quid with the bike and parts, so adding the fairing isn't that bad on the budget. If I can pull in some sponsorship to help pay, then that's even better!
Antonye, £40.00 for a piece of foam:o Good old Brancato, still trying to fleece us
stumpy1
27-Jan-2005, 19:50
Originally posted by Jon
Antonye, £40.00 for a piece of foam:o Good old Brancato, still trying to fleece us
I'd pay £7.00 for my seat foam when i had my trackbike...
go to any race club meeting, and you will pay the same,all you have to do it cut it to the shape of your seat..
skidlids
27-Jan-2005, 20:54
Yes but thats cheap foam at the race meetings it nowhere near the same stuff as Tony does, and really his fibreglass is to good a quality to use for racing, but the quality of it gives it a lot of strength with little weight.
I can hear you now Foam is Foam ..... wrong
I went over there last saturday to get my gaskets for my 600SS and stood in the doorway when I got there was Dallas getting enough foam to do two seat pads and two bum stops for his ZX10R race seats,
incidently Tony was suprised at the poor quality of Dallas race seat unit compared to the stuff he makes but i then did point out that Dallas needs them to be as cheap as possible so that he can replace them after he has launched the bike 10 foot into the air. OK Dallas didn't pay that much for a seat pad as he purchased the foam in a lump and will cut it and shape it himself. But if you want won made to go straight on then as with everybody Tony's time costs money as does quality.
Luckily for me I'll make do with any old ratty bit of dross and save myself some money.
Iconic944ss
27-Jan-2005, 21:11
I rate Brancato highly - but didnt Ali work out the Sharkskinz full kit would be £480 ????
and I believe its 'off the shelf' albeit an American shelf :)
skidlids
27-Jan-2005, 21:28
The same bits that Sharkskinz are offering cost £470 from Brancato according to Antony's posted prices.
Senna3 already has his seat unit and centre fairing part in Gel coat gloss black with gel coat white number boards. Quality is top notch as I said before far to good to be throwing into the gravel trap.
When I buy stuff from America it can take over 3 months to get to me even when it is off the shelf and I also have to pay various duties/taxes
Why not fit a TZ250 or Honda RS250 fairing?
Can pick up a nice new one for under £130 and take it to your local engineer, who i'm sure won't charge you £570 to weld a couple of brackets to your frame.
On the seat padding, I've found a roll mat thingy from Millets to be as good as anything 'purpose' built for bike seats. It's about £5 for a roll mat, and there is shed loads of it.
...and when you crash, which you will... I bet a £130 bit of plastic is more appealing than a £400 piece of plastic.
Just my 2 penneth
This was the Desmo Due forum and not the MotoGP one wasn't it?
Originally posted by domskidue
This was the Desmo Due forum and not the MotoGP one wasn't it?
:lol:
Aside from e-bay ... where does one locate one of these fairings Dom?
Tony, try this guy: BB Plastics (http://www.bbplastics.co.uk). Top stuff that actually fits. Loads of racers use him.
skidlids
27-Jan-2005, 23:42
Originally posted by domskidue
This was the Desmo Due forum and not the MotoGP one wasn't it?
Is there a difference I understand MotoGP riders don't have to supply their own bikes either.
Still a £1000 600SS that was purchased without any fairing panels and fitted with Brancato bodywork is still a cheap race bike compared to a 620 variant and whats more it will look the part.
Nobody is forcing anybody else to go any particular route, everybody is entitled to spend their money as they wish, all Antony was doing was making people aware that there are 600SS parts available.
Originally posted by Felix
Tony, try this guy: BB Plastics (http://www.bbplastics.co.uk). Top stuff that actually fits. Loads of racers use him.
Thanks Felix.
BB PLASTICS (http://www.bbplastics.co.uk)
REPLICAST (http://www.replicastuk.com)
ROD HARWIN (http://www.rodharwin.co.uk)
RACE PRODUCTS (http://www.raceproducts.co.uk)
ARD RACING (http://www.ardracing.com/hondars250.html)
These are just a few.
I guess some people don't have to supply their own bikes. In that context, I guess I am clearly a MotoGP rider, and I'd like to withdraw my earlier comment about this being a Desmo Due forum.
Back to the topic...
I know you're not forcing anyone to buy stuff from Brancato, and I have never seen his work, and I'm sure it is top quality.
However, not everyone knows of the alternatives, and the thought of having to shell out £700 for a race fairing seems ludicrus to me, but then I have the advantage of knowing I or anyone else can get a fairing far cheaper. It may not be for a 600SS, but it's a fairing and it does the same job.
Originally posted by skidlids
Originally posted by domskidue
This was the Desmo Due forum and not the MotoGP one wasn't it?
Is there a difference I understand MotoGP riders don't have to supply their own bikes either.
Still a £1000 600SS that was purchased without any fairing panels and fitted with Brancato bodywork is still a cheap race bike compared to a 620 variant and whats more it will look the part.
Nobody is forcing anybody else to go any particular route, everybody is entitled to spend their money as they wish, all Antony was doing was making people aware that there are 600SS parts available.
[Edited on 27-1-2005 by domskidue]
[Edited on 28-1-2005 by domskidue]
Ahhh, a good website. I wonder who built that, LOL.
There are no prices on there at the moment, but there are some good photo's... something a lot of other sites don't provide.
It may be best to ring Barry, he's a top geezer and will certainly give you good advice.
His stuff is CHEEEEEAP and top quality.
Originally posted by Felix
Tony, try this guy: BB Plastics (http://www.bbplastics.co.uk). Top stuff that actually fits. Loads of racers use him.
antonye
28-Jan-2005, 00:01
BB PLASTICS (http://www.bbplastics.co.uk) - No Prices
REPLICAST (http://www.replicastuk.com) - No website found
ROD HARWIN (http://www.rodharwin.co.uk) - No product list
RACE PRODUCTS (http://www.raceproducts.co.uk) - No product list
ARD RACING (http://www.ardracing.com/hondars250.html) - No website found
Not much help really! ;)
I could get to both replicast and ARD ... whatchoo doing Ant?
Ummm... I don't see product list, prices or pictures on Brancato's site either.
I'm just trying to make the point that you don't HAVE to spend £700 for race bodywork.
...and what's wrong with the telephone?
I dunno what it costs to make a mould, but I'm sure if everyone would commit to buying one full set of bodywork/seat, someone like BB Plastics would make a mould and probably knock it out at £200 all inc.
Cheap bodywork for everyone, and £5,000 in the bank for Baz or anyone else who can make it.
Antony, just give Barry a ring at BB Plastics. My mates just bought two full sets of fairings for their GSX-R750s for £170! And, no hacksawing required! So, there is a first hand recommendation.
antonye
28-Jan-2005, 00:39
As I said though Felix - that's for mass produced UJM from which you can find plenty of retailers. Getting race fairing for a bike that is out of production and hardly ever used for racing before is very, very difficult.
Yes, I could have put some cheap non-Ducati looking fairing on it, but I don't want to.
Fair enough, Antony, although you might change your mind when you lob it down the track.;) You could always get some Ducati Supermono bodywork. That would really look cool!
Iconic944ss
28-Jan-2005, 01:30
http://www.airtech-streamlining.com/image/euro/ducatisupertwin4.GIF
Iconic944ss
28-Jan-2005, 01:48
Sweet eh?
And there was a guy selling a full set 2nd hand here:
http://www.ducati.ms
Hello racers, thought i'd put my 'haphneworth here.
Fairing for the 600SS is £325, not £700!, that's all 3 panels made from high quality materials, semismooth finish on inside and colour inpregnated, it will straight on no mods to stock mounts.
This means no cheapho badly made white thing intended for something bigger longer smaller lower or whatever, which has to be painted, at yet even more cost, end result ......yuk!
By the way a white inset race number background, can be incorporated at no extra cost.
Even the 'seat foam' is pretty special too.
Specially formulated and made material, fully shaped and finished, and there's 2 pieces at that, one for your bum.and one for the small of your back,
For the tightwads,...................... you can purchase the material for less money from Brancato engineering and spend YOUR OWN TIME shaping it, alternatively for a really cheap solution, sit on the fresh air between race leathers and moulding of the seat.
Anyway why all the bitching?. should people who honestly labour away making decent stuff for you to enjoy, have to work for a pittance?.
I still don't see how a 600SS fairing costs £325, (and seat unit £200+)when fairings for all other motorcycles are around £130-£170 (seats £65) whether they are in production or not.
As for being special formula or whatever, I'd rather have a non special but affordable fairing which I can afford to replace when it's been down the track.
This is not a personal dig, and I don't even need a set of bodywork, I'm just playing devils advocate.
I'm sure your product is top class.
You try and make patterns, moulds and other related production tools etc. then only produce small ammounts from them, that's why!.
Stuff for jap crap is made by the dozs, as clearly there are more of them, so cost of tooling is spread out.
Incidentally 'devil's advocate' Brancato eng are writing off all the tooling costs for the bellypan, so that each purchaser gets one as cheap as.
Not a personal dig?, ..........I think it is!.
I looked for ages for a 600ss fairing and spoke to a number of MNF and found none or a luke warm response, so i decided to try second hand kit, spoke to many breakers and a side panel was in the range of 80 ( crap ) to 150 ( for pretty good ) then the top fairing 125 - 150, to replace my already very good road farings with secondhand crap would have cost approx 300 IF i could have found some. I dont want to cut! saw! hack! other farings to fit etc. I also want to save my existing decent fairings for spare and to put back on bike when i sell. To me £325 for a custom made red, ready to fit fairing is a good deal and im happy to pay it.
Its not just about the purchase its about the support the advise etc that comes at no extra cost.
Phil.
Just had another thought for Mr D Advocate, why not allow yourself to be chained up to one of the Brancato's work benches for the time it takes to make stuff, it might surprise you, just how long it takes to make things.
Alternatively, instead of going to your presentundoubtly resonably paid job,.....go out buy a fairing of your choise, spend time remodelling it, for no headlamp hole indicators et al.
Spend yet more time making moulds etc, make them to sell at your suggested price, how long would you last doing this for a living?.
My point is ,that ecomomy of scale applies here.
If you expect things for a certain price find them!, conpare like with like, not a thingy from something else.
If something is offered at a certain price by a manufacturer, it's usually for a good reason, not everyone is a fleecing crook.
Brancato eng is a good honest co, just ask all the people who have frequented it for the last 30 years.
Anybody can make something for little or nothing once, you simply cannot expect stuff to be there ready and waiting for you, made by some company constantly on the breadline, just to please you.
When I looked at this website for the first time yesterday, I honestly thought it would be a nice thing, now..... I think I'll same the electricity in the future.
Bye!
Originally posted by DrA
Just had another thought for Mr D Advocate, why not allow yourself to be chained up to one of the Brancato's work benches for the time it takes to make stuff, it might surprise you, just how long it takes to make things.
Alternatively, instead of going to your presentundoubtly resonably paid job,.....go out buy a fairing of your choise, spend time remodelling it, for no headlamp hole indicators et al.
Spend yet more time making moulds etc, make them to sell at your suggested price, how long would you last doing this for a living?.
My point is ,that ecomomy of scale applies here.
If you expect things for a certain price find them!, conpare like with like, not a thingy from something else.
If something is offered at a certain price by a manufacturer, it's usually for a good reason, not everyone is a fleecing crook.
Brancato eng is a good honest co, just ask all the people who have frequented it for the last 30 years.
Anybody can make something for little or nothing once, you simply cannot expect stuff to be there ready and waiting for you, made by some company constantly on the breadline, just to please you.
When I looked at this website for the first time yesterday, I honestly thought it would be a nice thing, now..... I think I'll same the electricity in the future.
Bye!
Well ... interesting response!
I think there are some valid points made above regarding prices and you could have made yours without taking it personally and quite frankly, doing your business no good by carrying on the way you've just done.
If you'd take the time to look a little further at this website you could see that it's quite a big club with lots of people who are looking for people who will look after them. I would hazard guess to say that 70-80% of kit bought by members of this club is on recommendation from other members. We are a group of people who like a bargain, everyone does, but also appreciate the quality of a product. After all, we didn't spend a lot of money on Ducati's to put crap on them.
No-one can stop you leaving but it's pretty disappointing that you've been here for 5 seconds, seen one thing you don't like and packed up your bat and ball and gone home.
Some well respected members on here value your products and time and that goes a long way here, but if you're viewed to be petulant then it won't mean anything. Maybe you should have a think about it instead reacting emotively.
Just my 2p worth ...
skidlids
28-Jan-2005, 10:13
Originally posted by DrA
When I looked at this website for the first time yesterday, I honestly thought it would be a nice thing, now..... I think I'll same the electricity in the future.
Bye!
I would rather you didn't save the juice as its nice to have a informed opinion on these sort of things.
And as for comparisons a ARD Ducati fairing is £175 add another £60 to have it colour coded and a futher £70 for the catch tray, that is £305 according to the prices on their website, That compares to £365 for the same parts all be it a differnt model from Brancato.
For a part that will bolt straight on with no mucking about built to a very high standard, then for a lot of people without either the time, tools or skills to mess about making things fit then the extra £60 is probably money well spent.
dickieducati
28-Jan-2005, 10:58
you 'fairing' guys make me chuckle.
antonye
28-Jan-2005, 11:03
Originally posted by weeksy
Reasonable quality at a lower cost may have been a better option ?
Steve,
Find me a cheaper race fairing for a 600ss and I'll gladly take you up on the offer.
dickieducati
28-Jan-2005, 11:03
sorry to hijack but its kind af relevant......
was interested to see the make up of the grid so far.
pretty much split down the middle monsters and supersports with just the one multistrada. will be great to see how the different bike fair on different cicuits especially on the fast snetterton race.
antonye
28-Jan-2005, 11:04
Originally posted by dickieducati
you 'fairing' guys make me chuckle.
Not half as much as I'll laugh as your 5-grand bike does a barrel roll on the first corner :lol:
Originally posted by antonye
Originally posted by dickieducati
you 'fairing' guys make me chuckle.
Not half as much as I'll laugh as your 5-grand bike does a barrel roll on the first corner :lol:
Very funny...............LOL.....:lol:
Originally posted by dickieducati
sorry to hijack but its kind af relevant......
was interested to see the make up of the grid so far.
pretty much split down the middle monsters and supersports with just the one multistrada. will be great to see how the different bike fair on different cicuits especially on the fast snetterton race.
It will be interesting to see if the people with the extra cc's via big bores or the 620's will have the edge....
Originally posted by fil2
It will be interesting to see if the people with the extra cc's via big bores or the 620's will have the edge....
:lol:
Lets be honest, the difference the bike makes in the overall package performance is going to be a lot less than the riders ability!
All this manoeuvring etc ...
Don't get me wrong, I'll be doing the most I can for my budget, the same as anyone else but ultimately the best rider who doesn't have the most bad luck will win - simple.
dickieducati
28-Jan-2005, 11:20
Originally posted by fil2
Originally posted by antonye
Originally posted by dickieducati
you 'fairing' guys make me chuckle.
Not half as much as I'll laugh as your 5-grand bike does a barrel roll on the first corner :lol:
Very funny...............LOL.....:lol:
nice to see the 'friendly club enviroment' is coming to the fore
antonye
28-Jan-2005, 11:21
Originally posted by weeksy
The point is mate, it doesn't have to be an SS specific fairing.... admittedly if you do want that one, the supply/demand curve obviously comes into play.... spirit of free enterprise and all that....
I'd rather try and keep it original to be honest, hence going for the Brancato stuff.
I'm sure Kev will be able to get a Superbike fairing on there, but I'm not Kev and I may well end up buying a 200 quid set of fairing only to bodge it completely and end up wasting that money - in which case buying something that is going to fit on without hassle is a better option.
I wouldn't know where to start looking for a fairing that will fit the 600ss dimensions - can you list one off the top of your head that you know will fit with little modification? There's also the catch tray to worry about and without buying something, how am I supposed to know what will fit?
Admittedly I could measure everything and go to a dealer armed with a tape measure, but these aren't the kind of items that are on display but are more likely to be purchased mail order. The same with going to a bike show - not many places will have them on site and it's not worth the hassle to keep pulling boxes open just for someone to measure up a fairing.
Yes, you can buy cheaper fairing. Yes, you probably could get it to fit. No, it won't look like an SS and No, I can't be arsed with the hassle ;)
Originally posted by dickieducati
Originally posted by fil2
Originally posted by antonye
Originally posted by dickieducati
you 'fairing' guys make me chuckle.
Not half as much as I'll laugh as your 5-grand bike does a barrel roll on the first corner :lol:
Very funny...............LOL.....:lol:
nice to see the 'friendly club enviroment' is coming to the fore
Not meant in a malicious way at all....was just a funny quip.. the Due serious is already showing how the club pulls together with all the posts for assistance the meeting up for the ACU day etc etc.
Chill....
If any1 is gonna bin it, it will be Checa
Phil
[Edited on 28-1-2005 by fil2]
Originally posted by fil2
Not meant in a malicious way at all....was just a funny quip.. the Due serious is already showing how the club pulls together with all the posts for assistance the meeting up for the ACU day etc etc.
Chill....
If any1 is gonna bin it, it will be Checa
Phil
Phil
It's alright mate, Dickie is just having a laugh as well.
And he deserves to have the urine extracted after buying a brand new bike!!!
Originally posted by antonye
Originally posted by weeksy
The point is mate, it doesn't have to be an SS specific fairing.... admittedly if you do want that one, the supply/demand curve obviously comes into play.... spirit of free enterprise and all that....
I'd rather try and keep it original to be honest, hence going for the Brancato stuff.
I'm sure Kev will be able to get a Superbike fairing on there, but I'm not Kev and I may well end up buying a 200 quid set of fairing only to bodge it completely and end up wasting that money - in which case buying something that is going to fit on without hassle is a better option.
I wouldn't know where to start looking for a fairing that will fit the 600ss dimensions - can you list one off the top of your head that you know will fit with little modification? There's also the catch tray to worry about and without buying something, how am I supposed to know what will fit?
Admittedly I could measure everything and go to a dealer armed with a tape measure, but these aren't the kind of items that are on display but are more likely to be purchased mail order. The same with going to a bike show - not many places will have them on site and it's not worth the hassle to keep pulling boxes open just for someone to measure up a fairing.
Yes, you can buy cheaper fairing. Yes, you probably could get it to fit. No, it won't look like an SS and No, I can't be arsed with the hassle ;)
Point well made.
Aint we got enough to do ..LOL..like actually riding the buggers....
Phil
Unfortunately the old office maxim of "an ounce of image is worth a pound of performance" doesn't apply when the red lights go out.......................:lol:
antonye
28-Jan-2005, 11:51
Originally posted by paynep
Unfortunately the old office maxim of "an ounce of image is worth a pound of performance" doesn't apply when the red lights go out.......................:lol:
"If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right" is also a good one.
Well at least it looks like its killed this thread!
Only read a small bit of this thread, but can you not all club together buy one kit and ship it to Barry (or a.n.other) who would probably do a mould of it as long as it was financially viable for him, and knock out kits for everyone else?
antonye
28-Jan-2005, 17:15
Oh, I'm sorry - I was still waiting for someone to show me where to buy a 600ss fairing at a much cheaper price!
Originally posted by weeksy
"when the flag drops, the bullshit stops :)"
i'll have that as mine for today.
What about:
"A rolling stone has too many chefs" ???
"A rolling stone takes too many drugs"??
:lol:
Originally posted by antonye
Oh, I'm sorry - I was still waiting for someone to show me where to buy a 600ss fairing at a much cheaper price!
Here look...
Originally posted by skidlids
Originally posted by DrA
"...as for comparisons a ARD Ducati fairing is £175
I know Kev says it's a further £60 for paint, and £70 for a catch tray or whatever, but thats daft.
Buy a fairing, make a tray, it's not rocket science, but it is a race bike... Under £180.
That's what I'd do, and I'm not an engineer, but I have raced, and I have chucked expensive things down the road, and I have had to replace it.
Notice Kev E, who has been racing a long time, hasn't gone out and bought a new bike, noooo... Cheap is good you see, he is not stupid!
You can argue all day about quality and price and all that stuff, but at the end of the day, if you are doing this on a budget, then you have to buy stuff that will 'do the job' and not neccessarily look a million dollars.
It's common sense over looking good expense.
As for fairings at places like Snetterton. My old duelling partner chris Firmin soon fitted a GSXR fairing to his SV650 in the Minitwins, after loosing out to Ryan Harris (I think) who had already fitted a fairing - So it will make a diff.
Although I still think that if you put the best rider on the slowest bike - He would still win.
Incidently DrA - I work bloody hard, over 60 hours a week, and take home under £250 a week as a LGV Driver, I know what hard work is, so before you have a personal dig, do some research.
If you read what I have read, I haven't once said your product is crap. I've never seen it (you could update you website of course - I know a webmaster!). Also, my comments weren't personal as I've never met you!!
Rant over :bouncy::bouncy::bouncy:
[Edited on 28-1-2005 by domskidue]
[Edited on 28-1-2005 by domskidue]
Oh, just thought I better ask if I'm allowed to have an opinion?
antonye
28-Jan-2005, 20:43
Originally posted by domskidue
Oh, just thought I better ask if I'm allowed to have an opinion?
Of course, but you couldn't have missed my point by further if you'd have tried!
skidlids
28-Jan-2005, 20:46
that is part of the problem Dom we have experience on our side, but the idea of this race series was to give club members with no experience of racing a chance to try their hand in it by getting in at the shallow end. With bikes that they can afford and that aren't going to scare the living daylights out of them.
As you well know there are pleanty of obstacles in the way of going racing, for some it is money (I think you understand that one well) for others it is a lack of spare time, others its simply a lack of room to do work and for others its a short fall in technical ability.
Now the first reason I gave its not possible to buy your way out of but the other obstacles can be sorted by cash.
Hence those who decide to go racing set a budget according to their means and providing they stick to that budget and make it to the grid then does it really matter how they got there, providing its legal (and I know where this has not been the case).
So its great that there are a huge range of suppliers out there that can cater for all.
Originally posted by skidlids
that is part of the problem Dom we have experience on our side, but the idea of this race series was to give club members with no experience of racing a chance to try their hand in it by getting in at the shallow end. With bikes that they can afford and that aren't going to scare the living daylights out of them.
As you well know there are pleanty of obstacles in the way of going racing, for some it is money (I think you understand that one well) for others it is a lack of spare time, others its simply a lack of room to do work and for others its a short fall in technical ability.
Now the first reason I gave its not possible to buy your way out of but the other obstacles can be sorted by cash.
Hence those who decide to go racing set a budget according to their means and providing they stick to that budget and make it to the grid then does it really matter how they got there, providing its legal (and I know where this has not been the case).
So its great that there are a huge range of suppliers out there that can cater for all.
Well said Kev.
Are we done now?
:frog:
Originally posted by skidlids
that is part of the problem Dom we have experience on our side, but the idea of this race series was to give club members with no experience of racing a chance to try their hand in it by getting in at the shallow end. With bikes that they can afford and that aren't going to scare the living daylights out of them.
As you well know there are pleanty of obstacles in the way of going racing, for some it is money (I think you understand that one well) for others it is a lack of spare time, others its simply a lack of room to do work and for others its a short fall in technical ability.
Now the first reason I gave its not possible to buy your way out of but the other obstacles can be sorted by cash.
Hence those who decide to go racing set a budget according to their means and providing they stick to that budget and make it to the grid then does it really matter how they got there, providing its legal (and I know where this has not been the case).
So its great that there are a huge range of suppliers out there that can cater for all.
I don't know why I didn't just say that in the first place!
Like I said above, I wasn't having a dig at anyone, or saying that Brancato was rubbish, just that there are other suppliers out there, so don't get suckered in to spending a fortune just coz you know no different.
Phew, took a while, but I think we finally got there :)
Originally posted by antonye
Originally posted by domskidue
Oh, just thought I better ask if I'm allowed to have an opinion?
Of course, but you couldn't have missed my point by further if you'd have tried!
What was your point?
I thought you asked if someone could show you where you could buy a cheaper fairing?
antonye
28-Jan-2005, 22:26
Originally posted by antonye
Oh, I'm sorry - I was still waiting for someone to show me where to buy a 600ss fairing at a much cheaper price!
There you go - all links to websites or telephone numbers will be gratefully accepted!
ive brought tony brancatos farings so whot if there dearer than thoses cheapys you can buy . ive worked extra hours and wheeled and dealed to get the money to buy them .i could fit any old crap on to my 600ss thats not a problem i chose tonys because there quilty and they fit straight on to the orignal mounts my choice. im no fast rider but im going to give it my best shot , so whot if i bin it there fiberglass there repairible if there that badly broke they cant be fixed then the rest of it whont be either so no problem throw the lot away end of job
Here you go then... CHEAPER BODYWORK (http://racersden.com/parts/int/by-motorcycle/ducati/600ss/600ss-full-fairing/600ss-fairings.php)
£440 for FULL BODYWORK and SEAT UNIT including postage from Australia!!!!!
...AND you can have it coloured for just £80.
£974 for a full set in Carbon Fibre!!
Hmmm.
Guess you're right antonye, you can only save around £100 if you buy the bodykit from Australia.
[Edited on 28-1-2005 by domskidue]
antonye
28-Jan-2005, 23:22
Hey, well spotted!
For a set of coloured race fairings with seat unit and international shipping, it comes out at AUS$ 1,265.86
Using xe.com (http://www.xe.com/ucc/) it works out AUS$1,265.86 = £519.37
But don't forget that you're likely to get stung import duty on this (20%?) PLUS VAT on top, so you're talking more like £730 quid to your door ... then what happens if it's broken?!?!
It's just that SS stuff is very, very rare.
You said...
show me where to buy a 600ss fairing at a much cheaper price!
...so I did.
You didn't say it had to arrive :P
I've already mailed Oz asking for confirmed prices, delivery times etc................no reply as of yet....................
Guess it may be cos they're upside down?
Still, its only 3 months to Race 1, so what's the problem...........
skidlids
29-Jan-2005, 00:33
Originally posted by paynep
Still, its only 3 months to Race 1, so what's the problem...........
Obviously you didn't see my post before Xmas about waiting 4 months for a shoe boxed size parcel to arrive from Aus.
No problem I can see Paul but don't expect us to wait around on the grid for you while you wait for it to arrive :lol:
Originally posted by antonye
Hey, well spotted!
For a set of coloured race fairings with seat unit and international shipping, it comes out at AUS$ 1,265.86
Using xe.com (http://www.xe.com/ucc/) it works out AUS$1,265.86 = £519.37
But don't forget that you're likely to get stung import duty on this (20%?) PLUS VAT on top, so you're talking more like £730 quid to your door ... then what happens if it's broken?!?!
It's just that SS stuff is very, very rare.
Don't forget C&E admin charges Antonye
Originally posted by paynep
I've already mailed Oz asking for confirmed prices, delivery times etc................no reply as of yet....................
Guess it may be cos they're upside down?
Oi! Watch it!
dickieducati
29-Jan-2005, 11:20
or just cos they're all muppets! ;)
i've got some of the stuff from racersden for my 999 not particulalrly cheap but does look good quality. happy for anyone to come round and look to compare with other stuff they may have looked at. it did take ages though 2 month maybe? but i think i was waiting for mine to be made as it was a new line.
skidlids
29-Jan-2005, 16:33
Two months thats quick, last stuff I had from Aus took 4 months and that was using Buy it now on Ebay so was ready to be sent.
Originally posted by antonye
I wouldn't know where to start looking for a fairing that will fit the 600ss dimensions - can you list one off the top of your head that you know will fit with little modification? There's also the catch tray to worry about and without buying something, how am I supposed to know what will fit?
Think of Jap supersport 400's.I raced a 900SS some years ago and found the Kawasaki KR1S fairing fitted a treat.Yup a little cutting and drilling involved,but nowt that could'nt be sorted in your own garage.
Mind you they are probably all obsolete now...
I'll get my coat.:lol:
Thanks all you people who phoned/turned up to tell me not to sulk, but it's hard not to be upset, when someone seemingly has a dig at your business.
Perhaps it should be explained that purchasing panels(or parts) from a UK based supplies has a few advantages, over OZ or wherever.
Firstly, you can phone or visit if there's any problems, you know the final price in advance, no getting stung for importduty etc.
Panels are bulky and fragile, so when they come from afar, not only does it cost lots, but ponentially could arrive as a jugsaw puzzle!.
At Classic panels (Brancato Eng's composite co), you can also have a sort of 'aftercare service'.
That is; that in the event of a crash, not only can you buy just one side, or the centre bit, but even willing to place damaged panel back into the mould and repair it at a very small cost, this is, obviously provided that you're not asking for a carrier bag of grp bits to made into a new panel.
For those on a budget why not just purchase the centre bit (no headlamp hole) and use the existing fairing sides? it's £65, you can have red or yellow at no extra cost, plus you can even specify a white race number backgroung at no extra cost too.
I hope all this is of use, if not sorry!
vBulletin v3.5.4, Copyright ©2000-2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.