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Rattler
09-Mar-2005, 21:45
Has anyone ridden a standard Monster hard on a track (or road) and can provide some feedback as to how well the standard front end setup can cope?
I'm thinking about how much to change the front of my DD Monnie and won't be able to really test it until later this month, so would appreciate some any info.
My options are;
- leave it as it is
- shims
- thicker oil
- harder springs
or combinations of the above - any ideas?
I'm gonna post this on the MOC site too, but any info appreciated.
Tim:frog:
monstermob 998
09-Mar-2005, 22:45
tim
i changed up to thicker oil on my non-adjustable 600SS front end on advice of other more knowledgeable participants of the board (it was also my cheapest option) the old oil was pretty black and i guess was past its best was also toying with the idea of shims as well (a further cheap option)but now with the thicker oil it seems fine for me (road use only bimbling along) with shims i think it may be too stiff for track use - not that i know anything about setting up,race bikes!
dave
Rattler
09-Mar-2005, 22:52
Thanks - probably looking at thicker oil, or more oil!!!, but as the suspension is being drained, I wouldn't want to miss the chance of swapping springs if it was viable.
Tim:frog:
Rattler
09-Mar-2005, 23:04
Originally posted by TP
;)
WOT!! Maybe I'd overlooked this vital modification!!!
Still - I'm not touching the backend!! ;)
Originally posted by Rattler
Thanks - probably looking at thicker oil, or more oil!!!, but as the suspension is being drained, I wouldn't want to miss the chance of swapping springs if it was viable.
Tim:frog:
get yerself a KTech spring kit in there mate, just a little firmer but far more comliant and uniform than the standard springs which are better suited to parker pens than bike forks...
and there end'eth my lesson ...
Rattler
09-Mar-2005, 23:07
Originally posted by DIBBLE
Originally posted by Rattler
Thanks - probably looking at thicker oil, or more oil!!!, but as the suspension is being drained, I wouldn't want to miss the chance of swapping springs if it was viable.
Tim:frog:
get yerself a KTech spring kit in there mate, just a little firmer but far more comliant and uniform than the standard springs which are better suited to parker pens than bike forks...
and there end'eth my lesson ...
But they don't do a kit for the Monster knowest one!!!
oh .. :(
fill em with angel delight .. you'll never know the difference
Rattler
09-Mar-2005, 23:13
Originally posted by DIBBLE
oh .. :(
fill em with angel delight .. you'll never know the difference
That's more like the response I'd expect from a technofobe like yourself - honestly, leave the techie talk to the big boys and go and play with your gameboy;)
antonye
09-Mar-2005, 23:13
Send it off to suspension people that know what they're doing.
I've had different weight fork oil and amount, along with new Ohlins springs fitted to the 600, so we shall see how it handles at brands.
The rear shock has also been resprung to suit and serviced.
Total cost was £270 including VAT and postage.
http://www.racinglines.co.uk/
Rattler
09-Mar-2005, 23:16
Blimey - look what its done to that milk carton - it must be a heavier spring!!!!! ;)
must have been built for his fat backside ... :smug:
Originally posted by Rattler
Originally posted by TP
;)
WOT!! Maybe I'd overlooked this vital modification!!!
Still - I'm not touching the backend!! ;)
Sorry mate, I was just remembering our conversation last night.
Before CHELSEA WON!!!!!
Rattler
09-Mar-2005, 23:20
Originally posted by antonye
Send it off to suspension people that know what they're doing.
I've had different weight fork oil and amount, along with new Ohlins springs fitted to the 600, so we shall see how it handles at brands.
The rear shock has also been resprung to suit and serviced.
Total cost was £270 including VAT and postage.
http://www.racinglines.co.uk/
I'll have a bash meself !!! It can't be too tricky can it????
I reckon if I use tie-wraps on the springs to reduce the damping - use some of Dibble's Angel Delight (strawberry probably) as oil and bolt a couple of sockets on as additional shims - she'll be right sorted!!!
See you on the first bend at Cadders!!!! Yeee Haaaaaaa !!!
Rattler
09-Mar-2005, 23:21
Originally posted by TP
Originally posted by Rattler
Originally posted by TP
;)
WOT!! Maybe I'd overlooked this vital modification!!!
Still - I'm not touching the backend!! ;)
Sorry mate, I was just remembering our conversation last night.
Before CHELSEA WON!!!!!
But my Liverpool boys won even more convincing tonight!!!
"Are you watching Manchester" was the chant - fantastic!!!
well it didnt take long for this thread to degenerate to farce did it ???? :mad:
Rattler
09-Mar-2005, 23:24
Originally posted by DIBBLE
well it didnt take long for this thread to degenerate to farce did it ???? :mad:
Not once you dipped in!!!
Originally posted by DIBBLE
well it didnt take long for this thread to degenerate to farce did it ???? :mad:
If I didn't know you were a Charlton fan I would have thought you were an Arsenal fan!
"bombed" in you mean ??? :P
antonye
09-Mar-2005, 23:27
Originally posted by Rattler
Blimey - look what its done to that milk carton - it must be a heavier spring!!!!! ;)
It's Happle Juis and the only thing I could find to hold the shock in an hupright position.
Tim,
got some advice that we are doing to ours, prob the same as you:)
Don't think I'll need to do a lot to mine.
Some heavier oil should do the trick...
Might have to stack some shims in there too, but let's see how the test day goes.
Where d'you buy the shims from anyway?
I am revalving & shimming mine
Alan
monstermob 998
09-Mar-2005, 23:39
we use to use old 10p pieces in the front forks of yamaha RD's!!!
Originally posted by NBs996
Don't think I'll need to do a lot to mine.
Some heavier oil should do the trick...
Might have to stack some shims in there too, but let's see how the test day goes.
Where d'you buy the shims from anyway?
A shim shop of cource:lol:
Rattler
10-Mar-2005, 00:01
Originally posted by Jon
Originally posted by NBs996
Don't think I'll need to do a lot to mine.
Some heavier oil should do the trick...
Might have to stack some shims in there too, but let's see how the test day goes.
Where d'you buy the shims from anyway?
A shim shop of cource:lol:
Or is that a Corse shim shop !!!
phoenix n max
10-Mar-2005, 00:17
I have an Ohlins rear but the front there's not a lot you can do. I've had Hyperpo springs and 20 weight oil in mine sorted by Big Al.
[Edited on 10-3-2005 by phoenix n max]
[Edited on 10-3-2005 by phoenix n max]
Zimbo the Mechanic
10-Mar-2005, 21:45
Depends on the forks you've got. If they're Showa they can be revalved (racetech is probably your best bet) but if they're Marzocchi you're stuck with springs and oil weight adjustments. You can tell showa from Marzochi easily by the caps on the top, if they've got a 17mm hex they're Showa, if they're much bigger (mid 30s mm I think from memory) they're Marzocchi.
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