View Full Version : Brands today (not so good Friday for some)
well, it wasnt so good for some:(
Looks like the desmo boys who were there were (on the whole, having a great time):D
Casualty list, when I left with Rally in my car - having collected him out of hospital on wobbly crutches with a few broken bones in his foot & cutting his hand badly, amongst some heavy all over bum bruising:o
also:
TP who had a minor disagreement in a gravel trap (bike ok, apart from slightly bent bars), rider fine (when I left, he was grinning as Dave was sorting the bar changeover for him)
Ali, whose engine in his desmo bike wanted a rest, & needs to visit uncle Nelly,
and all this by lunchtime...:o
I really hope the afternoon went better - looks like Dickie, Dave, Uncle Dunnie, MW & others bikes were going rather well.
Rally says ta for sorting out the return of his bike later peeps.
C:)
has TP ever done a track day that hasn't ended in the gravel ?
:lol::P:lol:
on a serious note glad all are ok :saint:
Rally, hope things are not to painful at the moment. :(
Clint
skidlids
25-Mar-2005, 19:45
Rally sorry to hear you had more than a minor off, sppedy recovery.
And will you all stop fighting over the muppet award, someone must be getting a new Avatar tonight
FiscusFish
25-Mar-2005, 19:50
Originally posted by CK and AK
Rally says ta for sorting out the return of his bike later peeps.
C:)
And if he's really lucky he might get back all the bits the DesmoDue boys stripped off it.... :devil::devil::devil:
Darren
there wasnt much 'bling' left in one piece to strip off it Darren!!:P
C
Is that official then - I get first muppet of the year? ;)
For those who don't know - I high sided out of Druids.
Big thanks to CK for getting me home, Duncan for getting what's left of the bike home and everyone for there support.
I was saying to Charlotte that perhaps the worst part of the incident is that I can't say that I learnt anything from it (except what a great bunch of guys the DSC are). I don't think I was pushing that hard - I didn't get any warning before it let go. There is nothing that I can say 'That's where I went wrong - won't do that again'. Ho hum.
Of course being somewhat disabled for the moment does scupper my Desmodue plans. Very much doubt that I'll make Cadwell.
Glad your not too bad Rally. Sorry to hear news tho. Hope repaired soon mate
Glad you got her home Michael, Alan says if you need any help.... he has the phone number of a few Ducati mechs & bodyshops for you:devil: - nah - gissa call & we'll try & help.
Hope the foot hasnt started to be too painful yet, and also that you made your parents work jolly hard around your gaff getting it 'just so' for you & restocking your dreadfully empty batchelor fridge! :D
C:saint:
Mutters
25-Mar-2005, 22:24
Originally posted by CK and AK
restocking your dreadfully empty batchelor fridge! :D
Tiger beer and T-Cut should do the trick;)
Weeksy - Rally was on his sparkly 999, having ridden it there.
At least the mirrors were safe, tucked in his bag.
Mid-late morning session, couldnt see any reason for what happened.
His desmo bike is under a 'revamp session' at home, as Rally was a latecomer to the series, by only getting his bike 3 - 4 weeks ago.
C
Dementor
25-Mar-2005, 23:38
Sorry to hear about your off M8, hope you are up and about soon.
Roy
antonye
26-Mar-2005, 00:04
Nobody saw what happened - I came round Druids only to find a spinning bike in the middle of the track with Rally laying in the dirt way off to the side.
Hope it all heals soon!
ericthered40
26-Mar-2005, 00:11
Evening Anthony been waiting for you to arrive in one peace.
How did you get on?
Rally get well soon
antonye
26-Mar-2005, 00:14
Rather knackered at the moment, but not as sore as some!
Kept it upright and my plan of scaring the other DD racers by taking hte 748 seems to have worked wonders! :D
Did anyone get any pics? Didn't see the picture thingy all day and there's nothing on the Focused webshite...
ericthered40
26-Mar-2005, 00:23
Not nice if you high side and don’t think your pushing it
Bit of a knock to the confidence and the rest of the body.
Cool to have on your C V though
;)
Rally - sorry to hear about the off. Hope both you and the 999 are back in pristine condition asap!
Thanks for your concern folks.
Originally posted by Jon
Michelins I bet:mad:
It's true. It is on Michelins.
psychlist
26-Mar-2005, 09:18
Originally posted by CK and AK
TP who had a minor disagreement in a gravel trap (bike ok, apart from slightly bent bars), rider fine (when I left, he was grinning as Dave was sorting the bar changeover for him)
"Meanwhile at the early season DesmoDue practice session a late charge through the field by TP996 on his tidy Monster saw him carve his way around the outside of a CBR600 on the left-hander followed by a swift body swerve to the outside of the track to pass an R6 round the outside of the right-hander. His phenomenal acceleration only just held in check by the fantastic grip afforded by his heavily shredded rear Pirelli saw him gently swing further out from the racing line whilst keeping the bike firmly nailed on it's side until there was nothing left to do as he crossed the sideline but stand it back up and ride straight through the kitty letter!"
WoW!!!! :o
Can I have your autograph please Tony :devil:
FiscusFish
26-Mar-2005, 10:33
Originally posted by psychlist
[ but stand it back up and ride straight through the kitty letter!"
WoW!!!! :o
Looked like he'd done the Paris-Dakar by the time he was finished.
Fell on his feet though (although not literally) 'cos he made one of the BSB boys wash the bike down for him.... :o:o:o
Darren
dickieducati
26-Mar-2005, 10:45
rally....didnt even get to meet you before your off. very sorry for you. just saw you going off in the car and your bike being taken back later in the day. hope all heels well and you can get out again soon.
if your tyres were warmed up it can only have been putting too much power on too early. its very easy on a 999. i have had a couple of moments at brands where i have put it on a bit heavy handed but got away with it.
dont know what tyres you were on but i now run supercorsa sc1's and sc2's on my 999. imho the best if you are pushing it on a track.
speedy recovery.
dickieducati
26-Mar-2005, 10:54
my views on the day......
as ever great to meet up with everyone.....
bike went ok but grounding out link pipes and bellypan so need to look at riding style (as ever) and possible suspension mods maybe. first time out on it with race shift/cans/and rearsets and all felt ok.
definitely need to up my speed otherwise in serious risk of ending up last. even got passed by tp! the shame of it! but i will up my game, starting tomorrow at CSS rockingham.
one last word of thanks to the ****er on the R1 who decided to knock into me at surtees as i was turning in and punt me off the track. good experience for the racing to come.:D
dickieducati
26-Mar-2005, 11:17
a couple of piccies:
dickieducati
26-Mar-2005, 11:18
one more:
Originally posted by dickieducati
if your tyres were warmed up it can only have been putting too much power on too early.
dya think? :P ;)
Redruth
26-Mar-2005, 18:55
So sorry to hear about this Rally. I'm sure you won't let it deter you. Hope your broken bones mend quickly and your bike isn't too expensive to fix (well wishes can sometimes be pure wishful thinking, of course!)
Dickie, great photos. :bouncy:
JasonBoswell
26-Mar-2005, 20:58
Couldnt have asked for a better day to kick the track day season off - great weather, great track, and great company.
Thanks to TP for the space in his luxury race transporter for me and the bike - cheers mate :D
Took a couple of piccies in the pit garage...
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26-Mar-2005, 20:58
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26-Mar-2005, 21:00
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Redruth
26-Mar-2005, 23:02
Good photos Jason. Who is the guy that Charlotte is having a finger wagging moment with and did he recover without hospital treatment?
And was that Rally returned to Brands on crutches? Some people just don't know when to call time and nick off home, do they? :rolleye:
:o oops, that was peteB I was chatting to Ruth:lol: - and yes, Rally wouldnt go straight home - we had to detour past brands, so he could really annoy himself as to what his bike had suffered:o
C
Redruth
26-Mar-2005, 23:12
Oh Oh. PeteB. Has he heard from Nick yet about his bike? :devil:
Sorry to hear about the offs - Rally how long on the crutches mate?
Not entirely sure Chris. Potentially six weeks I guess...
Rattler
27-Mar-2005, 14:02
What sort of times were the DD bikes putting in around the Indy? Don't have the name names, but I'm there in a couple of weeks and would like an idea as to what standard is being set.
Tim:ninja:
Well here's my report ... and thanks to Psychlist for his beautiful recollection of my off ...
Well ... the day started early, left home at 5:30 to meet Mike and Lizzie at Brands. Jason Boswell was pretty chuffed to be at my place so early, or maybe he wasn't .... He scared the *****e out of me in the morning when I was walking out of my side gate and he just appeared behind the van. Jason in stealth mode ...
So we get to Brands at 6:30 and the guy wasn't letting us in the gate and all the BSB trucks were backed up waiting to get in as well. The guy on the gate decides to let us in to unload in the carpark so Mike and I can go and get our Monsters (my van had my 996 and Jason's 996 in it, no room for the monsters). We start unloading and get everything out (although starting to cut through one of my ratchet straps which couldn't be undone) and the guy walks over to say we can go down to the garages now :mad:
So we nab a garage after loading up and unloading again and Mike and I went and picked up the monsters. We made it back to only miss one session, got briefed and we were ready to roll. Went out in the first session thinking I'll just get used to the bike and see how I get on. My first time running reverse pattern shift, first time at Brands, first time on the monster with the suspension sorted, new brake pads and hadn't ridden a bike in anger since October ... First session was interesting, I had two trips on the grass and Rally went down (hope you're feeling better mate, made me feel a bit sick seeing your bike there knowing you were in hospital). The first trip on the grass was trying to avoid a nice gentleman who decided to cut right back in on me just before entering graham hill bend. I was bedding in new pads and just didn't feel as comfortable really nailing the brakes and I was going to go into the back off him so I just ran up the grass and rolled around back on to the track (I made that sounds so calm and colected didn't I!). The second one was exiting druids and I was just too wide and didn't quite have my head together yet. I ended up running over the rumble strip onto the grass and then back onto the track. Wasn't greatest session on track. I really wasn't comfortable on the bike either, couldn't get my feet where I wanted them etc etc. I thought I'd just leave them for the next session and start playing after that.
Next session, (I'll get to the end in a minute, just hang on ...) went out not feeling so good about everything but just took it easy and started to increase the pace a little when I started moving myself around the bike a bit more. Then I caught up to these two guys on 600's, a blue R6 and a yellow CBR I think. I kept going around them at Clearways and Paddock Hill but they kept coming past me on the straights. This went on for about 3-4 laps when I was a bit more forceful and went around the CBR at Surtee's, then back outside to go around the R6 at Clearways, so far so good, but in the end I was too wide and headed for the yellow line so I stood it up and jumped on the brakes, ended up dropping it in the gravel hard enough to bend the bars. I also punched a hole in my leathers and have quite a nice bruise to show for it. In the end it was really a minor off but I did spend some time kicking gravel around and generally yelling at myself for being a %£*& before I picked the bike up, got it going and got myself out of the gravel. I put it down to frustration and impatience.
Thank you to Dave Harris, Ali, Mutters, Neil Spalding, Uncle Dunnie and everyone else who helped out (Neil wasn't actually there but was thoughtful enough to have some other handle bars so I could swap them over) and got the bars swapped over. Gave the bike and my gear a good clean, moved the footpegs a bit lower and to the rear and went back out next session. Well I went to go out and the guy wouldn't let me on track, wanted me to go and get my tyres cleaned. I was riding back to the garage and saw the BSB boys cleaning their trucks with a pressure hose so I got them to clean off the tyres :D thanks guys - whoever you are! Next session was much better. Felt better on the bike, started to feel more comfortable going a bit quicker.
The rest of the day I spent getting quicker and just generally moving my footpegs and bars around trying to make everything fit. I settled down on the bike after the mornings excitement and just felt good. Ran at a pace that wasn't pushing it but I felt I was learning and getting used to everything again. Once I found myself getting my feet on the pegs better I was grinding the front of my boot off! I'll have to figure out something there to stop that from happening!
Lowlight of the day - Rally crashing. Closely followed by my own crash, and seeing Dickie stranded on the grass at the inside of Clearways after being punted off the track by some KNOB Saffa on an R1.
Highlight of the day - the first session after lunch when I went out later than everyone else after getting my tyres cleaned. I thought I'd just take it easy for two to three laps and then get on with it. My first lap I was in clearways when Ali goes around the outside of me on Dave Harris' monster with his knee on the ground. I bit my lip and though, fair play ... basteward. So I just kept going until Dickie cam around me, then I thought "Stuff the 2- 3 laps, that's not on". I put my head down and went after Dickie. Finally caught up to him in Surtee's and went round the outside of him at Clearways. I was laughing so hard in my helmet I nearly cried. He must have sat right on my tail because when I got balked trying to go around another rider at graham hill bend he went back underneath me. So I tucked in behind him and followed him and went to go underneath him into Paddock Hill when another bike appeared from nowhere and scared the bejeesus out of me, I missed out then but when we got up to Druids I went underneath on the brakes. It was a great laugh and a lot of fun. I hope we get to do this sort of stuff in Desmo Due because it was really what I signed up for. I was grinning like an idiot when I came in from that session.
It was a great day topped off by a lovely meal and good company. I'm really looking forward to next weekend and two days at Almeria :D:D:D:D
WOOHOO!!!
Redruth
27-Mar-2005, 20:07
Great write up TP, you nutter. The race reports are going to be gripping if this is anything to go by. :D:D:D
How many 996s have you got though? Isn't one of yours at Nelly's?
:puzzled:
Road Runner
27-Mar-2005, 20:34
Good report TP
:cool:
Originally posted by Redruth
Great write up TP, you nutter. The race reports are going to be gripping if this is anything to go by. :D:D:D
How many 996s have you got though? Isn't one of yours at Nelly's?
:puzzled:
Thanks. I've only got one 996, I took it to Brands so Dibble could pick it up and take it up to Nelly's for me. Top fella.
Originally posted by Rattler
What sort of times were the DD bikes putting in around the Indy? Don't have the name names, but I'm there in a couple of weeks and would like an idea as to what standard is being set.
Tim:ninja:
Why don't you first post your cadwell times, then, eh?
DAVE HARRIS
29-Mar-2005, 13:18
sorry its taken so long but the intenett access at home is so slow.
Firstly thanks tony for helping us get 3 bikes home friday night. Now on to the important bit, The monster is huge fun to ride, like the others I could not believe the number of bikes with at least twice the horspower we were overtaking, the tyres are far better than I expected with only a few tiny movements from the front.
I need more power! the 620s were pulling 25-50 metres on me along the start finish straight on the other hand my ultra low clip ons seemed to give me a really good feel from the front.
My footrests need spacing out as the exhausts force my feet out to far, the forks need raising in the yokes and possibly slightly more oil. the single disc worked ok, well enough to have the back moving around into druids during an overambitious overtake attempt. even If I am a total failure at racing I have regained a lot of my lost confidence from the sessions at brands on friday (Although I was deliberately taking it easy on the 998r I was able to hold tighter lines and carry more corner speed than I have since 2002).
High light of the day for me was running up the inside of 4 bikes aproaching druids and being able to get past them and hold a tight line all the way round and still out drive them down to graham hill bend (ive always been crap at druids!!) the lowest point was a twonk on a yam highsiding at clearways and although I tightened my line to avoid him I still managed to clip him with my left foot! never mind itwas only his head. also following dickie on the 998 into surtees and watching with horror as this ***hole on a r1 rode into the side of his bike, dickie did welll to stay on!!
It was an excellent day with a lot of old faces (not just mine :lol:) and meeting some new faces and a late and decent meal at the end, roll on spain next weekend.
dave
bradders
29-Mar-2005, 13:22
took so long you thought youd do it wtice;) LOL
are you on a 583 then??
bradders
29-Mar-2005, 13:23
Originally posted by bradders
took so long you thought youd do it twice;) LOL
makes no sense at all now becsaue you delted the second one!
are you on a 583 then??
skidlids
29-Mar-2005, 13:54
No Paul, Dave's Monster has a Bigbore kit and has been on the Dyno. It will probably improve a bit when it loosens up , but the fuel injected 620 six speed bikes obviously still have the advantage over him.
bradders
29-Mar-2005, 13:58
rider over power debate...good luck Kev!
I've transferred some of this information over to the Desmodue website -
http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/desmodue/
If I've misrepresented anything, or misspelled names, please let me know as it's easy fixed.
Phill
uncledunnie
29-Mar-2005, 14:58
Rally - get mending - and building - ready for Castle Coombe :bouncy:
oh, by the way - if your missing a pair of brake calipers - they must have fallen off on the way home :devil::devil:
The little Monster really surprised me on track - it was a fooking hoot. Like Rattler I found the stock springers fine - certainly not worth me changing at this stage - I do need to raise the ride height tho' (or reduce the pie intake) coz theres a large non-ACU hole in the rear of my belly pan.
We were all running different gearing and I think that made the single biggest difference to all the bikes (rider excluded). In a race situation I can't see the 620ie's having any big advantage over the big bore 600's.
Anyway a couple of pictures to amuse you all
uncledunnie
29-Mar-2005, 15:08
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uncledunnie
29-Mar-2005, 15:09
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complete with a pretender on a 748 in the background
Rattler
29-Mar-2005, 15:13
I like the second one where you're going around the outside of the 996 ;)
Originally posted by Rattler
I like the second one where you're going around the outside of the 996 ;)
:lol:
That was Antonye on his 748 ... nice yellow jacket ;)
He was out there mugging us all day! Fortunately I didn't see him that much, once a session or something like that.
Rattler
29-Mar-2005, 15:22
UncleD - what is that seat cowl? Is that the same as the S4 challenge one?
antonye
29-Mar-2005, 15:22
I wore my yellow jacket with pride!
I was surprised at just how quick some of the DD bikes were - and they certainly weren't the slowest in the intermediate group and even Dickie was keeping pace with the fast boys until he moved to the inters.
I honestly think it's going to be a very good season of racing, and I can't wait to get the SS finished and put some miles on it.
UncleD, were those pics some of the professional ones offered by the "available" tasty blonde from Focused Events by any chance?!
Ade.
Originally posted by ath748
UncleD, were those pics some of the professional ones offered by the "available" tasty blonde from Focused Events by any chance?!
Ade.
I've just gotten off the phone from her! :D
I'm getting a photo e-mailed to me 'within the hour' and buying the CD, so I hope there's a few good shots.
dickieducati
29-Mar-2005, 16:13
i hope you got a deal.....i did ;)
Originally posted by dickieducati
i hope you got a deal.....i did ;)
I hope you didn't broker that 'deal' with your parents there!
:o
uncledunnie
29-Mar-2005, 16:17
Originally posted by Rattler
UncleD - what is that seat cowl? Is that the same as the S4 challenge one?
Its an original S4 Challenge unit courtesy of Spareshack (last one I think Stuart had)
uncledunnie
29-Mar-2005, 16:19
Originally posted by ath748
UncleD, were those pics some of the professional ones offered by the "available" tasty blonde from Focused Events by any chance?!
Ade.
per chance they were and no I don't have her number
antonye
29-Mar-2005, 16:39
http://www.focusedevents.co.uk/
Must be a number on there somewhere....
Wasn't meaning literally! Mind you......:ninja:
Originally posted by ath748
Wasn't meaning literally! Mind you......:ninja:
Well she'll be ringing me this afternoon, want me to put a good word in?
:lol:
:roll: I think my missus'll have something to day about that!!
Nope, the girl is all yours matey. (Not my missus!! :P)
Well, I'm a tad unimpressed.
They only have 7 pictures of me, obviously I can't see them all and she has forwarded one through and it's not spectacular. They want £20 for the 7 pics on a CD.
Is it just me of does that seem a bit too much?
I've attached the one she sent through.
Originally posted by TP
Well, I'm a tad unimpressed.
Sometimes it's not the picture taking that's at fault...:lol:
Originally posted by Felix
Sometimes it's not the picture taking that's at fault...:lol:
:lol:
Yes yes I know I'm not the worlds best rider - I guess I'm more objecting to £20 for 7 pics.
Know what I mean? Or am I being unrealistic.
What do you all think of the photo?
At least you can't see my gut pushing my leathers out :D
:lol:
dickieducati
29-Mar-2005, 18:27
Originally posted by TP
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Yes yes I know I'm not the worlds best rider - I guess I'm more objecting to £20 for 7 pics.
Know what I mean? Or am I being unrealistic.
What do you all think of the photo?
its a bit toppy i'd say. they only had 11 of me but i had them as they were my first ones on the monster.
picture management got 33 of me on sunday and it cost 25 quid.
Originally posted by dickieducati
its a bit toppy i'd say. they only had 11 of me but i had them as they were my first ones on the monster.
picture management got 33 of me on sunday and it cost 25 quid.
I've just spoken to her again and she found more of you but no more of me! I don't think she was aware that you changed groups.
She is sending mine through in an e-mail for me to look at.
Rattler
29-Mar-2005, 18:43
Originally posted by TP
Originally posted by Felix
Sometimes it's not the picture taking that's at fault...:lol:
:lol:
Yes yes I know I'm not the worlds best rider - I guess I'm more objecting to £20 for 7 pics.
Know what I mean? Or am I being unrealistic.
What do you all think of the photo?
Is that the best one????????????????? :puzzled::puzzled:
dickieducati
29-Mar-2005, 18:43
get her to send me a new disk then . ta
Originally posted by Rattler
Is that the best one????????????????? :puzzled::puzzled:
Tim, it's the only one at the moment, but she is e-mailing through the others for me to look at now. Another 6 to come.
Oi Dickie, the number is 08702 646268 and she is leaving in 5 minutes - her name is Chrissie ;)
Here is the best shot.
It's ok but it's from the morning, she didn't get any shots of me in the afternoon and I didn't really get going until then.
Still, this one is ok.
skidlids
29-Mar-2005, 19:13
So no ground clearance problems with the belly pan then
Don't fancy paying that much with all that crap written across it. :P
7 pics from 100% bikes cost me £30, so what you've been quoted sounds about right. Mind you, comparing that to what dickie said, we've both been done!
Ade.
JasonBoswell
30-Mar-2005, 14:19
i didnt bother with the CD as she only got 11 pics of me, and the best one of the lot was out of focus!!! I went for one print - and then got the out-of-focus one thrown in for free... will get them later this week.
think the problem is that if its just her out around the track then she aint going to get all that many piccies and even then from not that many vantage points. Picture Management (who did them for FE last year) have more than one person out with a camera, and their base facility is SO much better.
i wouldnt bother with a CD if I were you TP....you'll get plenty more better than that over the year.
WeeJohnyB
30-Mar-2005, 14:23
Bleedin eck TP, that's one heck of a number board mate - you hoping there's a following wind:lol:
WeeJohnyB
Originally posted by JasonBoswell
i wouldnt bother with a CD if I were you TP....you'll get plenty more better than that over the year.
Well ... I did get it, and she is throwing in a free print for not having many photo's of me ...
I decided to go for it in the end because it's the first time on the track on the monster and I also think it will be good to see my body position etc progress from it's current 'state' to whatever I end up doing with it!
Hopefully I'll be able to really work on that this weekend, level 3 is about body position etc so I'm really looking forward to it.
Originally posted by WeeJohnyB
Bleedin eck TP, that's one heck of a number board mate - you hoping there's a following wind:lol:
WeeJohnyB
I refer to it as the airdam!
I'm actually thinking about running a TZ nosecone and seat unit for something different, but no side panels - keep it fairly naked.
Would need to bodge up some brackets etc but I think it would look cool, especially with the swooping tail on the later TZ's ....
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