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fil2

19-Apr-2005, 16:25

Sure a name on the New ERA entry list is great.........but would be interesting to know a little about the other riders.......most of us on here know one another etc but the " nameless " are a mystery..i heard a rumour about a very very quick MRO powerbike entrant.?

Phil

Just curious like always good to know the competion

NBs996

19-Apr-2005, 16:30

I know what you're saying phil, but I think the only way to find out is to go'n shine a light in their eyes at cadwell!

chicken

19-Apr-2005, 16:38

Originally posted by fil2
Sure a name on the New ERA entry list is great.........but would be interesting to know a little about the other riders.......most of us on here know one another etc but the " nameless " are a mystery..i heard a rumour about a very very quick MRO powerbike entrant.?

Phil

Just curious like always good to know the competion

Phil, this is a really good way to work yourself up into a lather. The evidence shows you're a quick rider but if you keep up this mindset I daresay that even I would fancy my chances against you :lol:.

NBs996

19-Apr-2005, 16:42

Yeah, pull yourself together man...
Forget these MRO pretenders - there's NO competition!!

fil2

19-Apr-2005, 16:45

Originally posted by chicken
Originally posted by fil2
Sure a name on the New ERA entry list is great.........but would be interesting to know a little about the other riders.......most of us on here know one another etc but the " nameless " are a mystery..i heard a rumour about a very very quick MRO powerbike entrant.?

Phil

Just curious like always good to know the competion

Phil, this is a really good way to work yourself up into a lather. The evidence shows you're a quick rider but if you keep up this mindset I daresay that even I would fancy my chances against you :lol:.

Nowt to do with getting worked up Chi or with my mindset.???....."to defeat your enemy you must make him your friend to find his weakness"

but seriously im interested to know ! anyone that has been in a competative environment before will understand that and why is it so hard for the powers that be to give us the info.?

phil

ps..yeah im ok..pretty fast..you all know that but what do you know about the " nameless " entrants huh.?

[Edited on 19-4-2005 by fil2]

dickieducati

19-Apr-2005, 16:46

Originally posted by fil2
..i heard a rumour about a very very quick MRO powerbike entrant.?

just makes me beg the question, why?

its a bit like tierry henry playing against the local pub team and banging loads of goals past them. cant imagine he would gain a whole lot of satisfaction from it.:puzzled:

Tonio600

19-Apr-2005, 16:47

What does MRO mean ?

fil2

19-Apr-2005, 16:48

dickieducati

19-Apr-2005, 16:49

i dont mind though, i'm not at all selective with who i take out! :D

Tonio600

19-Apr-2005, 16:50

Message original : dickieducati
Originally posted by fil2
..i heard a rumour about a very very quick MRO powerbike entrant.?

just makes me beg the question, why?

its a bit like tierry henry playing against the local pub team and banging loads of goals past them. cant imagine he would gain a whole lot of satisfaction from it.:puzzled:

Don't worry, I am sure he doesn't even have a full motorbike driving license :lol:

fil2

19-Apr-2005, 16:55

Originally posted by Tonio600
Message original : dickieducati
Originally posted by fil2
..i heard a rumour about a very very quick MRO powerbike entrant.?

just makes me beg the question, why?

its a bit like tierry henry playing against the local pub team and banging loads of goals past them. cant imagine he would gain a whole lot of satisfaction from it.:puzzled:

Don't worry, I am sure he doesn't even have a full motorbike driving license :lol:

Im sure the " DSC " would make an exception ..?:frog:

Phil

19-Apr-2005, 16:59

Originally posted by Tonio600
What does MRO mean ?

Not sure what it means really, but it is the national club series. One below BSB if you like.

dickieducati

19-Apr-2005, 17:03

i'm looking forward to a complaint from one of the guest riders..............................

"i cant believe he took me out, didnt look like he knew what he was doing, he was all over the place, riding like a complete novice"

"errr, your point is?"

antonye

19-Apr-2005, 17:04

Originally posted by Tonio600
Don't worry, I am sure he doesn't even have a full motorbike driving license :lol:

:rolleye:

Je lisais la version française de votre blog - elle est bien mieux que la version anglaise ! ;)

19-Apr-2005, 17:09

:puzzled: I thought there was a thread on this last week - with all the riders listed - except the 'guest' of Ducati UK?

C:)

edited, found Domski's list of cadders riders:

0 ducati uk guest rider
2 phillip huntley
3 kevin palmer
5 dave reilly
6 lin jones
7 ali bisson
8 geoff spencer
9 peter yates
10 chris wood/james thompson
11 dave harris
12 tony perrin
13 chi chan
21 tim howard
22 michael winter
23 dominic cann
26 mike dawson
33 mike atack
34 nick boustead
36 andy johnson (AK & CK's machine)
42 ian leah
44 kevin mooney
45 mark foskett
47 richard thirkettle
61 paul muggeridge
62 clint de taanwsky
65 duncan moore
68 paul payne
69 jean-paul hackett
77 chris butcher
82 antoine josserand
88 kevin ellis
99 andrew roberts
111 antony espindola

[Edited on 19-4-2005 by CK and AK]

chicken

19-Apr-2005, 17:13

Originally posted by fil2

Nowt to do with getting worked up Chi or with my mindset.???....."to defeat your enemy you must make him your friend to find his weakness"

but seriously im interested to know ! anyone that has been in a competative environment before will understand that and why is it so hard for the powers that be to give us the info.?

phil

ps..yeah im ok..pretty fast..you all know that but what do you know about the " nameless " entrants huh.?

[Edited on 19-4-2005 by fil2]

My favourite Sun Tzu line;
"Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him." Here kitty, kitty.....:rodent:

I must say I disagree with the analogy. If Rossi was a guest rider, you could study the tapes all you wanted but it still wouldn't stop him pi$$ing off into the distance.

On the day, I'll be busy fixing whatever happens to have broken and might spare a glance at the qualifying times.

fil2

19-Apr-2005, 17:14

Originally posted by CK and AK
:puzzled: I thought there was a thread on this last week - with all the riders listed - except the 'guest' of Ducati UK?

C:)

edited, found Domski's list of cadders riders:

0 ducati uk guest rider
2 phillip huntley
3 kevin palmer
5 dave reilly
6 lin jones
7 ali bisson
8 geoff spencer
9 peter yates
10 chris wood/james thompson
11 dave harris
12 tony perrin
13 chi chan
21 tim howard
22 michael winter
23 dominic cann
26 mike dawson
33 mike atack
34 nick boustead
36 andy johnson (AK & CK's machine)
42 ian leah
44 kevin mooney
45 mark foskett
47 richard thirkettle
61 paul muggeridge
62 clint de taanwsky
65 duncan moore
68 paul payne
69 jean-paul hackett
77 chris butcher
82 antoine josserand
88 kevin ellis
99 andrew roberts
111 antony espindola

[Edited on 19-4-2005 by CK and AK]

Thats good...but who are they LOL........do they have dsc sign on names....

We want History, Where from, Experience, for instance who is the DLS rider.? etc etc dont we..??...or is that just me....:devil:

Phil

fil2

19-Apr-2005, 17:17

Originally posted by chicken
Originally posted by fil2

Nowt to do with getting worked up Chi or with my mindset.???....."to defeat your enemy you must make him your friend to find his weakness"

but seriously im interested to know ! anyone that has been in a competative environment before will understand that and why is it so hard for the powers that be to give us the info.?

phil

ps..yeah im ok..pretty fast..you all know that but what do you know about the " nameless " entrants huh.?

[Edited on 19-4-2005 by fil2]

My favourite Sun Tzu line;
"Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him." Here kitty, kitty.....:rodent:

I must say I disagree with the analogy. If Rossi was a guest rider, you could study the tapes all you wanted but it still wouldn't stop him pi$$ing off into the distance.

On the day, I'll be busy fixing whatever happens to have broken and might spare a glance at the qualifying times.

sure no information would prepare you for Rossi but it would be nice to know he was entering....and you may be fixing your bike while others might want to study the competition what is wrong with wanting to know who is entering ..??? who you are lined up against etc......i fail to see that as a problem.......

Phil

antonye

19-Apr-2005, 17:18

Yes, it's just you Phil :rolleye:

Tonio600

19-Apr-2005, 17:20

Message original : antonye
Originally posted by Tonio600
Don't worry, I am sure he doesn't even have a full motorbike driving license :lol:

:rolleye:

Je lisais la version française de votre blog - elle est bien mieux que la version anglaise ! ;)

Really ? Thank you.
So you can read French...
And so my English is crap :(

I keep hoping to be able to make jokes in English one day (anyway I won't leave your island before this...).

antonye

19-Apr-2005, 17:23

Originally posted by Tonio600
And so my English is crap :(

It's better than my French!

I never realised that "huile de coude" was an expression the French used - that made me laugh!

fil2

19-Apr-2005, 17:25

Originally posted by antonye
Yes, it's just you Phil :rolleye:

thought so.....did not expect anything less.

:rolleye:

19-Apr-2005, 17:30

I can't see anything wrong with Phil wanting to know who is involved. I don't think I need to worry about it too much because it's not really going to have an impact on my preparation regardless.

People prepare for things in their own way, Phil has competed in sport to a high level and if this is what works for him then cool - no big deal.

Jools

19-Apr-2005, 17:48

Originally posted by dickieducati
Originally posted by fil2
..i heard a rumour about a very very quick MRO powerbike entrant.?

just makes me beg the question, why?

its a bit like tierry henry playing against the local pub team and banging loads of goals past them. cant imagine he would gain a whole lot of satisfaction from it.:puzzled:

I can't understand what satisfaction people get out of being a real big fish in a small pond either, but people do it.

When I was club rallying back in the 80's we were all in Mk III Escorts and 2.3 Chevettes and yet one bloke with shed loads of money used to turn out in an ex-works Metro 6R4, full support crew in a damn great artic truck, racks of OZ wheels with a huge selection of tyres from forest tyres to slicks...and yes, he used to win...by miles. But where is the fun in that?

Competition, it gets crazy you know

antonye

19-Apr-2005, 17:53

Somebody has to win, but yes Jools that is a bit extreme!

chicken

19-Apr-2005, 17:56

Originally posted by fil2

sure no information would prepare you for Rossi but it would be nice to know he was entering....and you may be fixing your bike while others might want to study the competition what is wrong with wanting to know who is entering ..??? who you are lined up against etc......i fail to see that as a problem.......

Phil

Phil - relax man, I'm not having a dig at you. I'm just putting forward a different point of view.

I'm less worried about the competitors I don't know and more worried about the ones that I do know!

eg You've met me, but you don't know how I ride - do I try and hold the inside line? am I slow-in & quick-out or vice-versa (or slow-in & slow-out)? what is my riding history?
Even with the interviews that Phill did, you're only seeing the tip of the iceberg for each rider. Multiply that by 34 and it makes for a lot of unknowns - better to just get on with it!;)

Tonio600

19-Apr-2005, 18:19

Message original : antonye
Somebody has to win...

AND IT WILL BE ME :devil:

Tonio - still trying to make my first joke in English... :D

Rattler

19-Apr-2005, 18:29

Originally posted by fil2
Sure a name on the New ERA entry list is great.........but would be interesting to know a little about the other riders.......most of us on here know one another etc but the " nameless " are a mystery..i heard a rumour about a very very quick MRO powerbike entrant.?

Phil

Just curious like always good to know the competion

It would be good to know - I agree with Phil - I reckon that anyone NOT in an orange vest will become a great target - if you manage to beat any of these you should get double points I reckon !!!! ;)

phoenix n max

19-Apr-2005, 18:52

Even if Rossi did enter - there's only so much you can do with 600-620 monster or ss around Cadwell Woodlands circuit.
Roll on raceday - then we'll all know where we stand or fall.

domski

19-Apr-2005, 21:00

Originally posted by Tonio600
What does MRO mean ?

Motorcycle Racing Organisation

...I think ;)

lizzie

19-Apr-2005, 21:02

why is it so hard for the powers that be to give us the info.?

Hate to interfere with your conspiracy theory Fil, but the Race Committee have exactly the same information about the previous race experience/competency of all the other entrants as they do about you - namely zilch.

And AFAIK DucatiUK haven't decided who the guest riders are after Cadwell.

You're going to have to be patient and get your spies to infiltrate the other camps at Cadwell I am afraid ;)

domski

19-Apr-2005, 21:10

And AFAIK DucatiUK haven't decided who the guest riders are after Cadwell.

So who are they at Cadwell then? :saint:

bradders

19-Apr-2005, 21:32

Originally posted by domskidue
Originally posted by Tonio600
What does MRO mean ?

Motorcycle Racing Organisation

...I think ;)

or another way, bloody fast!!

Iconic944ss

19-Apr-2005, 21:40

Originally posted by bradders
Originally posted by domskidue
Originally posted by Tonio600
What does MRO mean ?

Motorcycle Racing Organisation

...I think ;)

or another way, bloody fast!!

Yes indeed it is.....here we go.......................

http://www.bemsee.co.uk/

F

19-Apr-2005, 22:06

cheers for the tip off about spies Lizzie:devil:

Our roving eagle eyed reporter, reported in about Cadders yesterday - mentioning one of the DD riders making Seriously VERY good time on the track there:) - not ours I hasten to add :( (ours is still getting cobwebs off his leathers:lol: )

Looks like a few of the 'I'm going to win' chaps will have to look to their laurels:o

C:)

skidlids

19-Apr-2005, 22:36

For decades there have been riders starting racing each year and more often than not they will only know one or two of the people they will be on the same grid as. When i first started helping my mates I always wonsered who that Shane Byrne lad was always starting from the front row.
Personally I don't care who I'm racing against I've been lapped by some very fast riders in my time all it does is spur you on to try and go faster so they don't do it again.
My aim is to get me and my bike to the chequered flag as fast as I can, hopefully this will be faster than some but its certainly not going to be as fast as others.
I know my years of racing give me a small advantage but at best I'm a average club racer that enjoys roadracing and as I'm on a 583cc bike I should be down on power against the majority of the field, I'm hoping this will give me the incentive to find some more corner speed something I have been lacking for years.
So my main competition is myself, I want to go faster than I currently can and hopefully that will happen by me chasing the faster guys in front.

Guys & gals it may be Desmo Due but you are now entering into Club racing and those of you who have entered the SoT races you will be up against the likes of Les Liney, Dean Wain, Kevin Jones and maybe even ianh from this board, none of whom I knew before I raced against them.

Just my thoughts on it
Kev

psychlist

19-Apr-2005, 22:57

From the perspective of Earthworm Jim (that's me by the way) looking at all you high flyers that spend your trackdays balling up the edge of your tyres in the fast group I would be happy to finish, safe in the knowledge that I did something any non-starters or fallers or breakdowns didnt' achieve, in other words I beat them ;) Of course I'd prefer it if you didn't all lap me more than once but hey, what's a racetrack without a mobile chicane :frog:

Playing mind games can backfire, the higher you set your sights, the weaker your aim. But hey, it IS part of "The Game" :smug:

To finish first, first you must finish :devil:

chicken

19-Apr-2005, 23:35

Originally posted by skidlids
For decades there have been riders starting racing each year and more often than not they will only know one or two of the people they will be on the same grid as. When i first started helping my mates I always wonsered who that Shane Byrne lad was always starting from the front row.
Personally I don't care who I'm racing against I've been lapped by some very fast riders in my time all it does is spur you on to try and go faster so they don't do it again.
My aim is to get me and my bike to the chequered flag as fast as I can, hopefully this will be faster than some but its certainly not going to be as fast as others.
I know my years of racing give me a small advantage but at best I'm a average club racer that enjoys roadracing and as I'm on a 583cc bike I should be down on power against the majority of the field, I'm hoping this will give me the incentive to find some more corner speed something I have been lacking for years.
So my main competition is myself, I want to go faster than I currently can and hopefully that will happen by me chasing the faster guys in front.

Guys & gals it may be Desmo Due but you are now entering into Club racing and those of you who have entered the SoT races you will be up against the likes of Les Liney, Dean Wain, Kevin Jones and maybe even ianh from this board, none of whom I knew before I raced against them.

Just my thoughts on it
Kev

My sentiments exactly but added racer's experience.
Kev, your first beer is on me!

fil2

20-Apr-2005, 09:16

My sentiments exactly but added racer's experience.
Kev, your first beer is on me! [/quote]

wot..?? no beer for me.??

better just get on with it then....

:devil:

Phil....;)

skidlids

20-Apr-2005, 09:30

Thats the idea Phil, you have made the decision to go racing so now you will just have to get on with it, ride the wheels of that SS and see where you end up crossing the finish line, judging from what I've seen of you ride including the sessions at Silverstone on Sunday, you have nothing to worry about. You will only get faster and who knows you may be the find of the season.
Next up you'll be out on a bigger bike in SoT with the likes of Felix and Garry Smith, that would give us a good comparison but the DD is a right mixed bag and as such hopefully will be a good laugh for many who are out there mainly to enjoy the racing experience.

fil2

20-Apr-2005, 09:38

Originally posted by skidlids
Thats the idea Phil, you have made the decision to go racing so now you will just have to get on with it, ride the wheels of that SS and see where you end up crossing the finish line, judging from what I've seen of you ride including the sessions at Silverstone on Sunday, you have nothing to worry about. You will only get faster and who knows you may be the find of the season.
Next up you'll be out on a bigger bike in SoT with the likes of Felix and Garry Smith, that would give us a good comparison but the DD is a right mixed bag and as such hopefully will be a good laugh for many who are out there mainly to enjoy the racing experience.

Kev

Its out of interest that i would like to know a little about the other racers, it will not hamper or aid my preperation at all..i know what i have to do...i really dont understand why its such an issue to want a little information about the racers in the DD...
Its got nothing to do with me worrying about where i place or the standard of the field, at the end of the day i race, do my best no matter who is on the track, where i place is where i place.

Phil

20-Apr-2005, 09:41

its cos you is nosey Fil - innit?:P

C:)

ChrisBushell

20-Apr-2005, 09:57

Sorry boys and girls been a bit busy work wise for the last week or so and not had much chance o look at the board.

It is our interntion to do a short piece on each of the racers through Pronto over the Summer. This idea was hatched when we expected 20 or so riders!

Given all of the things that we have had to do and the numbers of people involved we haven't even started on this yet.

Current plan is to try and get 10 of the entrants at Cadwell, to include a photo (preferably with the bike) and some background info, personal and racing, ready for the Pronto due out on the 1st of June.

Anyone whp wishes to get in early should send a good digital photo showing the rider and the bike, together with above information to chris.bushell@ducatisportingclub.com.

This will allow me to get rond the paddock quicker at Cadwell and hopefully complete the grid in the August issue of Pronto

Chris

ChrisBushell

20-Apr-2005, 11:03

There is I understand one entrant who did a bit of racing a few years ago and who may well have been a bit quick in the past.

New Era have confirmed that they recognise a number of the names that have been entered for Cadwell nd that some of them apparently have a reputation for being a bit quick!

As they said though when teh flag drops the bull **** will stop, I have drawn the short straw of standing on the outside of the 1st bend with the digital video camera! We have already proved that the remote control works from over 20 meters away, so will take a tripod!