Buying Tips?? for a 900ss

[tightlines]

First of all I'd like to say hello to you all and I thought it was about time I registered after being nosy for a couple of weeks!
I've been given first shout on a '93 900ss that's been unused for almost 2 years. All I've seen is pictures of it and have fallen in love. The guy is asking £1000 for it. I know the tank is dented, after his Mille fell on it. Unfortunately neither me or the bike are in the UK until July so anything that needs doing to it will have to be DIY. I'm an experience mechanic and think putting new cambelts on for starters. Is there anything else you think I'll need to look at? Any thoughts on the bike?
Cheers
Steve
Back on the road after being 'off road'

[Edited on 8-5-2005 by tightlines]

[ali]

Hi Steve, welcome to the board! Mine's a bucket of guiness please....:D

If it's been unused for two years you'll definitely want to change the belts (possibly before starting it up. although it should be ok). I'd also look at changing the tyres, chain (unless it was greased), etc.

There may be a couple of seals on their way out (output shaft seal), especially those that have been out of contact with oil for a while. Worn swingarm shims can have a dire effect on handling, as can head bearings.

Sounds like a bargain, you can do an awful lot to a 900 for a few hundred quid. A US company does full stainless bolt kits for about £30, a single seat (SL style) from Ricambi Weiss in germany is about £50, High level termis or Sils c.£200, carb-warming kit (standard on later models) £70, tinted screen £45, etc, etc. All of a sudden you've spent £5k on an SS, but it's money well spent! :D

Have fun and lets see some pics when you get back.

Cheers,


Ali

[tightlines]

Ali,
Nice one, exactly the reply I was looking for.
Thanks very much
Steve

[FiscusFish]

Definitely new belts before you even start it....

Things to check on '93 SSs. Frames can crack on the top tubes near the headstock. If it has an alloy swingarm then check for cracks at the pinchbolts at the engine end. Leaking clutch slave cylinders (not difficult to sort). Check for broken cylinder head bolts. Clutch noise is normal and doesn't really go away even with new basket and plates. Petrol tanks can rust internally especially on the back seam. Engine will sound noisy "They all do that, Sir"

If it's been sitting for a couple of years the fuel system'll need stripping down and cleaning out plus all the other usual service type stuff.

On the other hand if that all sounds like a lot of work SS's are a pice of piddle to work on. All the guff you read about desmo valves being tricky is rubbish. Compared to working on and adjusting the valves on a modern UJM you can reach everything with hands the size of Guy the Gorilla. Trickiest thing about doing a SS's valves is working out how to support the backend when you take the shock off.

Good info sites include http://www.ducatitech.com/ and http://www.ducatisuite.com/home.html

Darren

[tightlines]

Thanks Darren,
You may have put some newbies off with that!! But I'm sick, that's music to my ears. My problem is, a friend of the seller is bring it to me (not as dodgy as it sounds, details are to boring to go into) if he can get it started! I think I'll convince him to leave it and transport it in a van/trailer. (if it's not to late)
Thank again
Steve

[Edited on 8-5-2005 by tightlines]

[antonye]

Steve,

A lot of us here have recently started racing SS bikes, albeit the smaller 600 engines, so a lot of our experiences are probably the kind of things you'll be up against too.

I completely stripped and rebuilt my 600SS and have kept a blog of it, along with a few pictures, here: http://www.horrible.demon.co.uk/bikes/racing2005.htm
You might find some handy info if you cut through the waffle ;)

With a few hundred quid on top you should get yourself a really good machine sorted at the end of it.

Good luck and keep us informed of how you get on.

[FiscusFish]

Forgot to mention the carbs used on the bike suffer from emulsion tubes that ovalise over the miles. More info here http://66.47.68.116/products/needle%20jet%20rebuild.html

[tightlines]

Darren-Thanks for the link
Antony-I've just spent most of the night reading your antics, great stuff and good luck with the racing.
Steve

[Iconic944ss]

Hopefully, welcome to the great world of Duke ownership...

some info:

http://www.ducati.net/faq.cfm?id=41

Frank

[tightlines]

Thanks Frank
I've convince me mate to use a trailer, so hopefully I'll have pics to put up real soon. (rebuilding it, I have a habit of refurb's!)
Thanks for all the support! (sorry I sound like a little kid, please mister can I come and play!) But I really am grateful for all the advice you've all given me.
Steve

[Monty]

From a riding point of view, the SS's steer slowly but are as stable as the QE2, top speed will be 135-140 ish but they are very fast point to point-because of the handling. Lovely things to ride-wish I still had mine.
Oh yes, and without the carb heater kit anything under about 5c will give you carb icing.

John

[FiscusFish]

Even with the bleedin' carb heaters you've got carb icing to look forward too....

Carb heaters, Silkoline Pro FST and breathing heavily on the carbs every now and then might see you right... If you're lucky...

[tightlines]

Coool;)

[Glyn]

dont know a damn thing about the 900ss
but i take it your into your fishing
2 hobbeys you rich bugger

any way welcome aboard
i'll have a guiness if your buying

[tightlines]

Hi Glyn,
I do fish!, but I've lived here before and knew the sea was all fished out, so left my tackle in storage back home. Got bored of going to the beach day after day and if you've been here the locals all drive with a death wish. So I've been playing on the dirt, much safer! Some bloke came along and gave me real good money for my 'green' laner and now I'm bored again.
If we meet I'll buy the first one!

[remfanuk]

ali...! where can i find these at this sort of price please? "...High level termis or Sils c.£200,..." cheers.

[FiscusFish]

Originally posted by remfanuk
ali...! where can i find these at this sort of price please? "...High level termis or Sils c.£200,..." cheers.

Ebay.

Got a set of new hi-level Laser cans (Dutch company) for around £100. Not up to the quality of Arrow and the like but still not too shabby.

It's just a case of keeping your eyes open.

Darren

[remfanuk]

will keep watching ebay now then, ta.

what would i need to fit a set of high level cans please? do i lose the rear footrests? would superlight ones just go on?

if anyone hears of any for that sort of money please feel free to pm me...ta.

[FiscusFish]

You'll lose the rear footrests and need a set of Superlight hangers (Bolt straight on).

Some companies make "extension kits" that allow you to mount the original footrests on the outside of the cans but I reckon they look more than a little poo. I guess it's down to personal preference plus finding the extension kit...

More info and pictures here http://speedzilla.zeroforum.com/zerothread?id=41425 They appear to be for SSies but I'm sure you could do something similar with the better looking early SSs....

Darren

[remfanuk]

right thanks for that Darren...all i gotta do now is look out for some tasty carbon hi level cans and some s/l hangers!!! it could happen couldnt it? other than ebay, any suggestions where to have a look for said items...looking second hand as i only got 150 notes to play around with and i had to fight she that must be obeyed for them! :o

[remfanuk]

oh..and you were right...the hangers with footpegs on the outside of the zorst are the pits man!