Another class for the DD boys to play in

[Cranker V2]

http://www.hottrax-motorsport.co.uk/images/Formula400Logo.gif
BASED ON THE ACU FORMULA 400 REGULATIONS THIS NEW CLASS TO HOTTRAX MOTORSPORT WILL PROVE TO BE A WINNER

What is it all about? (2013)

The Hottrax Motorsport Formula 400 Leightweight Championships are a series of sprint races with grid starts. The machines are based on recent or current production motorcycles and available to the public through the normal commercial channels of the constructor/manufacturer
The series is designed to allow riders to compete on 2 stroke and 4 stroke motorcycles
A Formula 400 class fills a nice gap within our Modern Classic series

What do you get?

You get 8 rounds over 1 and 2 days at some of the best circuits in the UK
You get long distance racing and 3 races per weekend together with timed practice and warm ups
Trophies for top 3 are given at each event and at the end of the year subject to entry levels.
Any treaded or wet tyres may be used
What does it cost?

Club membership is £30 online for the year
Optional Premium Membership is £130 per year and you get £15 of each test day with Hottrax
Race entries are all around £225 per round
Formula F400 Leightweight Series


F400 Lightweight Class
4 cylinders up to 416cc 4-stroke No Maximum Power Limit
2 cylinders up to 416cc 2-stroke Maximum Power limit of 78bhp
2 cylinders up to 258cc 2-stroke Maximum Power limit of 78bhp
2 cylinders up to 618cc 4-stroke Maximum Power limit of 65bhp
Machine Number Plate Colours (Series stickers will show class)
Formula F400 Leightweight - Blue background White numbers

[skidlids]

Yep I thought I did well writing that rule book :D

[bally71]

why are the two cylinders limited to 65 horses? .. some of those 400's are knocking out 85 .. we sometimes got lumped in with the f400 on minitwins .. and they where about 2 seconds a lap quicker ..

[bally71]

nice to have the option of a second race tho

[ells]

I am hoping to get out in this, although will be well short of 78 bhp (2 stroke) .Hoping to do a couple of rounds, will be good to see everyone.

Regards
Mark

[Ghost]

Mmm I remember the all comers races with New Era, 125 two strokes left us for dead. Just imagine a 250/350, not a hope in hell of being toward the front.

[dunlop0_1]

Mmm I remember the all comers races with New Era, 125 two strokes left us for dead. Just imagine a 250/350, not a hope in hell of being toward the front.

Yep. I remember at Snett following Mark Lister who came second to a 15 year old girl on a 125 :o

Can't see any point in entering that class at all on a DD bike.
Another example of this is the Hottrax Megabike, Superbike, Supersport classes this year. Which if it's like last year due to low entries will mean all three on the same grid again.

Maybe it's lack of understanding on my part but It doesn't make sense to me trying to fill all those catagories. This is the reason iv'e decided to try ThundersoprtGB out this year. One class for billy basic golden era superbikes and busy grids last year.

[Andy C]

Yep. I remember at Snett following Mark Lister who came second to a 15 year old girl on a 125 :o

Can't see any point in entering that class at all on a DD bike.
Another example of this is the Hottrax Megabike, Superbike, Supersport classes this year. Which if it's like last year due to low entries will mean all three on the same grid again.

Maybe it's lack of understanding on my part but It doesn't make sense to me trying to fill all those catagories. This is the reason iv'e decided to try ThundersoprtGB out this year. One class for billy basic golden era superbikes and busy grids last year.


See you there 'Pieman'

[skidlids]

why are the two cylinders limited to 65 horses? .. some of those 400's are knocking out 85 .. we sometimes got lumped in with the f400 on minitwins .. and they where about 2 seconds a lap quicker ..

Because when Hottrax offered a Minitwin Class in 2011 they had one entry for the first round at Brands So they aren't entertaing running MT bikes.

I pursuaded them to let the DD bikes on the same grid as the F400s and the easy way to keep the twins to the DD bike is to stick with our bhp limit.
Including the Twins is about offering another class for DD riders to enter, not about getting MTs out on the grid.

Yes some 400s with every tricked up bit on them may be above 80 bhp but a ZXR400 with a Ram airbox conversion, cams and full system all setup with a jet kit is about 68bhp, and for those of us that entered their DD bikes in the 400 allcomers with New Era often had some fun playing with some of the 400s but the main thing is the extra tracktime that was available.

DD could very easily have been excluded from this class, now we have an option

[dunlop0_1]

See you there 'Pieman'


I really hope so Andy that would be so good (as long as you haven't bought an Aprila LOL)
All being well I'm gonna be doing Oliver's Mount with Auto66 aswell, you coming to that too?

:)

[bally71]

Because when Hottrax offered a Minitwin Class in 2011 they had one entry for the first round at Brands So they aren't entertaing running MT bikes.

I pursuaded them to let the DD bikes on the same grid as the F400s and the easy way to keep the twins to the DD bike is to stick with our bhp limit.
Including the Twins is about offering another class for DD riders to enter, not about getting MTs out on the grid.

Yes some 400s with every tricked up bit on them may be above 80 bhp but a ZXR400 with a Ram airbox conversion, cams and full system all setup with a jet kit is about 68bhp, and for those of us that entered their DD bikes in the 400 allcomers with New Era often had some fun playing with some of the 400s but the main thing is the extra tracktime that was available.

DD could very easily have been excluded from this class, now we have an option

appreciate that kev .. always nice to have the option of extra track time

[bally71]

Yep. I remember at Snett following Mark Lister who came second to a 15 year old girl on a 125 :o

Can't see any point in entering that class at all on a DD bike.
Another example of this is the Hottrax Megabike, Superbike, Supersport classes this year. Which if it's like last year due to low entries will mean all three on the same grid again.

Maybe it's lack of understanding on my part but It doesn't malke sense to me trying to fill all those catagories. This is the reason iv'e decided to try ThundersoprtGB out this year. One class for billy basic golden era superbikes and busy grids last year.

think a lot of clubs make the same mistake .. trying to cater for everyone you end up catering for no one

biggest reason i like DD

[dunlop0_1]

think a lot of clubs make the same mistake .. trying to cater for everyone you end up catering for no one

biggest reason i like DD


So you like DD because a new race is introduced where the rules give you virtually no chance of being competative :confused: Doesn't sound much like racing to me. ;)

[bally71]

nope .. cos that's not DD .. that's f400

[dunlop0_1]

nope .. cos that's not DD .. that's f400

Context. DOH :lol:

[Andy C]

I really hope so Andy that would be so good (as long as you haven't bought an Aprila LOL)
All being well I'm gonna be doing Oliver's Mount with Auto66 aswell, you coming to that too?

:)

Wouldn't worry mate, i don't think we'll be bothering each other track! ;)

[badgerpilot]

This is the reason iv'e decided to try ThundersoprtGB out this year. One class for billy basic golden era superbikes and busy grids last year.


See you at a few next year then Pie-dude, I'll be there with a Mille clad Mr Norris and that loony cockney bloke Dean.