View Full Version : Can a Bip seat be easily fitted to a 749R/999R?
Rattler
28-May-2005, 00:05
I managed to fit a Bip seat to my old 996R, but can this be easily achieved on a 749R or 999R.
Don't ask me why I want to do it as I take offence easily ;) - but is it a matter of just switching the subframe and seat unit (obviously)?
Or are there other considerations for this? movement of components etc, etc.....
Anyone done this?
Ta muchly
Tim
I think so Tim. But there might be an issue with the baby R. Its fuel tank is larger and I'm not certain if this presents a problem or not.
Subframe and all seatbase bits should swap over ok but remember "R" wheels would not be homologated for biposto use being lighter forged alloy
Arn't the forged lighter wheels stronger than cast wheels?
Originally posted by Jon
Arn't the forged lighter wheels stronger than cast wheels?
Probably but look at how thin the spokes are
and they list those wheels in the performance catalogue as mono use only:rolleye:
Rattler
28-May-2005, 00:34
Originally posted by andyb
:puzzled:
Yeh I know - I did say don't ask me why!!!
But in the spirit of openess - I need a road bike that I can occasionally take Mrs Rattler out for a spin on. She won't like it and I can quickly change it back, but I need the capability nonetheless!
And it would be a trifle churlish just to keep the ZX10R for such activities.
So as I endeavour to procure a new Ducati I need to be cognisant of such!!! ;)
Tim:frog:
Rattler
28-May-2005, 00:35
Originally posted by bolds
Originally posted by Jon
Arn't the forged lighter wheels stronger than cast wheels?
Probably but look at how thin the spokes are
and they list those wheels in the performance catalogue as mono use only:rolleye:
Right, I'll get the misses on a diet - that should go down well!!! ;) :)
How about a 749/999R combo:lol:
Bolds your probably right, I've never looked closely at the differences before
You looking at a 999r ? Go on its only me your telling???
Rattler
28-May-2005, 00:49
Originally posted by andyb
You looking at a 999r ? Go on its only me your telling???
I'm looking, i'm looking!! I must say that I'm favouring the 749R over the 999R at the mo, they just seem a bit more "special" to me.
But I might just wait for the road Desmosedidicihichechithingy to come out!!!!
Now I don't reckon you'll get a Bip seat on that!!!!!! ;)
Tim.... have got a black 999 Bip subframe if you need one :D
Rattler
28-May-2005, 01:24
Originally posted by dave w
Tim.... have got a black 999 Bip subframe if you need one :D
Thanks Dave - I just need to get the bike first !!!! :)
I knew I knew I knew...
Does this mean the king (996R) is dead?:D
Tim,its a piece of pee to change subframes and seat units.There are no other components to change over during the conversion.The exhaust and electrics all stay where they are.With practice it can be done in around 30-40 mins.
Originally posted by Rattler
I managed to fit a Bip seat to my old 996R, but can this be easily achieved on a 749R or 999R.
Don't ask me why I want to do it as I take offence easily ;) - but is it a matter of just switching the subframe and seat unit (obviously)?
Or are there other considerations for this? movement of components etc, etc.....
Anyone done this?
Ta muchly
Tim we fitted my old termi can to skipi's 749bip, twin seat, all parts fitted no problem but the sub frame was different from mine tim.
butch890
28-May-2005, 08:53
tim,
having spoken to the guru the wheel issue IS an Issue,fit bip wheels and problem solved.
Butch
Rattler
28-May-2005, 10:39
thanks for the feedback fellas
Tim
Originally posted by Rattler
Originally posted by andyb
You looking at a 999r ? Go on its only me your telling???
I'm looking, i'm looking!! I must say that I'm favouring the 749R over the 999R at the mo, they just seem a bit more "cheaper" to me.
But I might just wait for the road Desmosedidicihichechithingy to come out!!!!
Now I don't reckon you'll get a Bip seat on that!!!!!! ;)
I think youll be looking at ballpark £11,000 for an 04 749r. I think you could get an 03 999r for around there and probably with the 57mm and cpu fitted.
another £3-4000 and you could be in 04 999r territory
Dont know if i like the idea of a) on the road with it, and b) pillion stuff, just my thoughts.
Shazaam!
28-May-2005, 14:33
Stiffer rear spring.
Rattler
28-May-2005, 15:04
Originally posted by andyb
Originally posted by Rattler
Originally posted by andyb
You looking at a 999r ? Go on its only me your telling???
I'm looking, i'm looking!! I must say that I'm favouring the 749R over the 999R at the mo, they just seem a bit more "cheaper" to me.
But I might just wait for the road Desmosedidicihichechithingy to come out!!!!
Now I don't reckon you'll get a Bip seat on that!!!!!! ;)
Thanks for the misquoute!!! Its not a money thing!!! ;)
I wouldnt of expected it to be.............Its a ...? thing?
Rattler
28-May-2005, 18:03
Originally posted by andyb
I wouldnt of expected it to be.............Its a personal!!! ...? thing?
I seiously think you would crave for more power than a 749. Im not saying any of us can really use the potential to full, but its nice to have it there. Now if some say oh buy the engine upgrade, quite frankly it will be cheaper, more reliable etc to have had the 999.
Perhaps with your bp issues, 999s? Good price, still top power, etc, and i know where there is a set of lightweight wheels going, for your mono track aspirations...............
The Big Red One
28-May-2005, 20:43
Should ring riders of bristol they have load of new model to get rid off going for silly money. and i mean low prices.
Originally posted by andyb
Perhaps with your bp issues, 999s? Good price, still top power, etc, and i know where there is a set of lightweight wheels going, for your mono track aspirations...............
Andy, who's selling the wheels and how much (please!)? :D
I cannot see a problem with the wheels ( or the shock ), is it not just the manufactures/Ducati covering their backs just in case of failure.
If someone is 19 stone ( ! ) riding solo what is the difference if the rider is 11 stone and the pillion 8 stone ?
I am sort of tempted to put a biposto seat unit on my R beacause my wife is 'considering' going back on the bike again ( she said she would never go back on when we had our two young kids, just in case )
Originally posted by khu996
Originally posted by andyb
Perhaps with your bp issues, 999s? Good price, still top power, etc, and i know where there is a set of lightweight wheels going, for your mono track aspirations...............
Andy, who's selling the wheels and how much (please!)? :D
They are 999r wheels, and .....its Rob at Riverside, you know him dont you?
Originally posted by andyb
Perhaps with your bp issues, 999s? Good price, still top power, etc, and i know where there is a set of lightweight wheels going, for your mono track aspirations...............
i thought the 749r is better for using on a track ??
/ian
Originally posted by weeian
Originally posted by andyb
Perhaps with your bp issues, 999s? Good price, still top power, etc, and i know where there is a set of lightweight wheels going, for your mono track aspirations...............
i thought the 749r is better for using on a track ??
/ian
Not on its side though Ian! :lol:
Originally posted by andyb
Originally posted by khu996
Originally posted by andyb
Perhaps with your bp issues, 999s? Good price, still top power, etc, and i know where there is a set of lightweight wheels going, for your mono track aspirations...............
Andy, who's selling the wheels and how much (please!)? :D
They are 999r wheels, and .....its Rob at Riverside, you know him dont you?
Have you got a number for him mate? Do you know how much they're going for?
Sorry mate ive got you mixed up with someone else.
Yeah ill give you the number on u2u
yellowisfriedegg
30-May-2005, 08:47
The wheels on 749R's and 999R's are identical and are NOT suitable for carrying a pillion , this was stated by Ducati UK in an MCN roadtest
Rattler
30-May-2005, 12:02
Originally posted by yellowisfriedegg
The wheels on 749R's and 999R's are identical and are NOT suitable for carrying a pillion , this was stated by Ducati UK in an MCN roadtest
Yea but, no but - they also state that Magnesium wheels shouldn't be used for the road, but you can!!
Isn't this just some potential legal disclaimer against any sort of legal action should you get a couple of elephants going Biposto ?
Tim
Tim may the torque be with you, but you won't find it on a 749R:)
electricsheep
30-May-2005, 19:50
from the manual with the forged wheels
max total weight 390 kg
dry weight 193 kg
fluids 10 kg
fuel 20 kg
extra for bip 10 kg
this leaves 157 kg
which is about 24.5 stone, so if you and your other half are less than that you should be fine. however i am not an engineer
Whats this about a 749R being underpowered with not enough torque ?
I was out yesterday with a few of the lads and most were on 1000s, my brother having a new repsol blade, none of them could keep up with me on my 749R through the twisties and i am no riding god.I looked behind on numerous occasions to see who was behind me but all i could see was a dot in the distance.
How much power and how fast do some people want ? the only time i was overtaken was when i was not bothered which was when we hit a dual carrigeway and they went on about how they hit 177mph on the straight, great eh !!!!!
80, 90, 100, throught he twisties is enough for me, do not know what others think but to me having fun without being stupid is waht biking is all about.
I never said it was:puzzled: But when you are use to a 996R and a ZX10.
It would:smug:
Tim, whilst at SS on Sunday Ducati have a 2 seater 999 for demonstrations, no idea of the spec to be honest, does have standard forks etc, but also has a rail bolted to the tank for a pillion it also had black wheels now unless they were painted they must be the forged wheels, and I would imagine they're using them because they're lighter for buzzing around a circuit on. Can you imagine the forces being tranferred to the wheels two up on a race track going as fast as you can?
steve999
08-Jun-2005, 02:03
I've got a 999s BIP which I would swap my BIP subframe for your mono, and wheels also if required.
Rattler
08-Jun-2005, 09:59
Originally posted by steve999
I've got a 999s BIP which I would swap my BIP subframe for your mono, and wheels also if required.
I bet you would !!!!! ;)
i've had the same idea for incase i wanted to take any lady friends on the back of mine!
got a bip sub-frame and seat unit, but yet to put it on as i've not had anyone take up the offer of a pillion ride!
:burn::P
**** ... just flog the ZX10R and do 4.5k on a Multistrada .. .... fitting bip seats to R's is sacrilige ...... get a grip man ....
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