Screen Tool?

[bigtwin]

I've recently bought an MRA screen and am curious about the 'screw' fasteners that hold trhe screen on. The smallest Torx driver that I had was a T-10 - too big! Popped into Halfords this evening and bought a T-8 and a T-6 (just to be sure) and, guess what, T-8 is too big and T-6 is too small.

Question: do I need a T-7 or is it not a Torx fastener?

[andyb]

There should be the proper tool in your tool kit!

[TP]

Yep - it's a T7.

I bought a proper tool at the BMF show because the one in the tool kit is a bit on the soft side. It was the last one they had too :D

[bigtwin]

Well *ugger me! Didn't even give it a thought. Assumed that the need to remove the screen would not be considered a routine task and that the fastener was too special! Will go and check!

[bigtwin]

I have just checked the tool kit and - nothing! Should it be in the red tool bag or is it tucked away somewhere else?

[TP]

Yep, should be in the red tool bag.

[moto748]

The ones in the tool-kit are rubbish anyway..


There's plenty of people selling a proper T7 screwdriver on ebay. They're only about a fiver, maybe less. Just search under Ducati parts.

[dave w]

If you get stuck..... You can have mine !! No need for tools now i own a suzuki !!

[sbwells]

Bigtwin - the 749/999 tool kits don't come with a T7 tool.

As I understand it the 748/9** came with one.

[andyb]

I had one in mine!

As Ducati owners whether we are mechanically minded or not, we should learn a bit of dexterity and apply ourselves to whatever we are doing on the bike.

You need to make sure the tool is central and fully engaged before attempting to turn it.

The screen torx is the same moan as the tie rod nuts!

[Gizmo]

I removed and refitted one last night just by turning the rubber nut and holding bolt with my finger, maybe I need to check how tight all of them are :) think i'll stick a dab of lock tite on.

[HW]

Originally posted by Gizmo
I removed and refitted one last night just by turning the rubber nut and holding bolt with my finger, maybe I need to check how tight all of them are :) think i'll stick a dab of lock tite on.

I think if you stick a dab of locktite on thenm you will never get them off again! Better to sitck a dab of red rubber grease on them so they will not seize up!

I change my screens about fairly often at the moment ... only because I have found afavourite one now and so want it on road fairing and on track day fairing too. I got a set of screen screws from ProBolt that come with the rubber wellnuts (screws are std allen heads). I didn't have a tool for the original ones and just head the heads with some (masking tape) protected grips then binned them. I'm sick of these special took jobs, no reason for it at all.

<flame away boys> :smug:

[Gizmo]

Originally posted by HW


I think if you stick a dab of locktite on thenm you will never get them off again!

I have a sharp drill and a steady hand :)

[HW]

Originally posted by Gizmo
Originally posted by HW


I think if you stick a dab of locktite on thenm you will never get them off again!

I have a sharp drill and a steady hand :)

:rolleye: The whole idea of the rubber wellnuts is that the rubber acts like an anti-vibration device. I only have mine done up as tight as I can twist the wellnut with my fingers (holding the screw with an allen key). The wellnuts are a bit of an arse to get into the holes on the screen so I just let the action of screwing them on pull them into the holes. The screen (Powerbronze Airflow) is too thick for the wellnuts to seat correctly anyway so they just get pulled into the holes until the rubber grips and holds them.

Just don't use copper grease on wellnuts because it causes damage to the rubber and they release the brass inserts. Red rubber grease is the stuff to get ... I got mine from a local tool supplier (not Halfords!), but your local friendly Ducati dealer would probably give you a bit in a bag that'd last you years.

[Edited on 22-6-2005 by HW]

[stuart hill]

I replaced the screen on my 749, the screen screw were like cheese - soft as sh*te. I did the same as you went to halfords couldn't get the correct size, got one at the ally pally show in the end.

Ended up having to junior hacksaw a grove in the screw head so i could unscrew the fastener as some had been rounded off. Worked a treat :-)

Worth getting some new fasteners or getting a set from www.tastynuts.com (Pro-Bolt) IMHO.

[bigtwin]

Thanks guys. It seems like it's pot luck whether you get the tool or not - a bit like the 'managed start' feature. Some have it, mine doesn't!

[tricky]

I've got the managed start but my tool kit didnt come with a torx driver. Maybe that was the trade off.

Wasnt the managed start only introduced on the 2004 model ?

[Twinfan]

Managed start???????

[HW]

My 03 749S did NOT have a managed start as standard, but it came with one after the ECU was changed when the Termis were fitted.

Took me by suprise because I didn't know about it. I just thought my starter button was sticking and was about it take it into the dealer and moan. DOH!

<for TwinFan>
Managed Start: Prod the starter button and it carries on running the starter until it catches. Quite posy when you are with a load of others and you prod it then go back to putting your helmet and gloves on while it does it's own thing! :)

[bigtwin]

Got a tool! Now trying to fit the screen.

Next Question:

How the fcuk do you get to the lowest pair of screws? I struggled to get to them taking them off but managed it. As I 'm getting them off I'm thinking getting them back on is going to be twice as difficult.

Was I right!

I carefully managed to squeeze the wellnuts into the screen and offered the screen up to the top fairing and carefully edged it into place - *ugger, one of them dislodged. Try again but this time I pared a sliver of rubber off of the wellnuts. This worked, but I have had no success in getting the screws into place.

Am I doing something wrong? Do I need to remove anything else to get better access?

[andyb]

Take the nose off! Its around a couple of minutes job.

[ttstu]

My 999 is 2003 and has managed start. Don't know about the tool thing as I haven't located the tool kit yet!

[HW]

I take the nose fairing off on a regular basis when I change the fairing for track days. It's not hard, it's only a 5 imuntes job. I also change the screen now as I have a favourite one that I use on the road and so I want it on the track too.

[bigtwin]

Thanks Andy B & HW.

How easy is it to take the nose cone off? Presumably you need to take the main fairing panels off first? Then what?

[andyb]

Both mirrors, one bolt each, two bolts for the nose, and bobs your uncle.

[bigtwin]

Cheers Andy

I will give it a go when I get a chance through the week.

Thanks again.

[HW]

Think there are also 2 recessed bolts up underneath that I never bother to put back in again. Main ones are each side covered by the side panels. Can be easy to get those cross threaded when putting them back in because they don't always go in straight. The mirrors are a bit odd too .. only one screw behind, and then pull sharply out and towards the BACK. Remember that when putting them back ... I pushed and prodded for ages before I got the knack of putting them back on .. now it's easy though.