Pain in the neck

[sparkin]

Got a bit of a medical problem at the moment(No,not that sort of problem you fool!)I`m still waiting for xrays and scan results to come back,should be Monday,but i think my median nerve is being trapped in my spine at my neck.This renders my left arm completly useless,it`s a bit like someones hit your funny bone with a hammer,can`t ride me bike,or do anything that involves tilting my head back as this seems to trigger the pain.I`m hoping this can be corrected by physio/chiropracter. Has anyone else suffered from this,it`s so bad at the moment that I went to test drive a new car in case I`ll have to sell the 888(which I`ll put off till the absolute last minute!)

[Redsps]

sorry to hear that graham, sounds very painfull. A good friend of mine has suffered from a similar problem for a long time.
He's been told that surgery may make the problem a lot worse,so has resigned himself to putting up with it, and he seems to make adjustments for the problem, Not an ideal situation by any means.
Hope you get it all sorted out for best mate, you can't sell that T8.

cheers
robin

[sparkin]

My chiropracter is hopeful Robin,but won`t commit untill he see`s the xray/scan results.Looks like he`ll be taking most of my money for the next few months.

[Redsps]

Looks like he`ll be taking most of my money for the next few months. [/quote]

yep, they are good at doing that aswell.;);)

take it easy mate.

[ericthered40]

I have this, as well as lots of lower back problems, when I had my last MRI my chiropractor stopped treating me.
My surgeon has told me mobility might improve but no guarantee for pain.
He also told me it may improve over time itself and that I wasn’t doing any harm as long as I
Lay-up when the pain really kicks in.
I have found that anti-inflammatory as soon as I get the first bad pain seems to shorten the length of time out of action.
The neck one is a bugger, I get it looking up. I did an acoustic screen in a church last year. I was standing with the vicar and pointed up to the Gothic arch five meters above us.
Next thing I’m on the floor telling him not to worry I will be ok in a minute or two.
It can be a real asset to the sympathy close.

If you can afford to keep your bike till next spring wile you have a winter off you could be back on next year

I have lived with this for years now seems to be surgery is a last option in a lot of cases
:)

[sparkin]

Anti-inflammatorys defiantly help,and yes looking up is the killer,I`m just thinking the worst at the moment,Ducati riding position etc,I`ll know more Monday when I go back.
Anyone want to swap a Multistrada for a trick 888:o:puzzled:

[butch890]

Bummer mate,put these thoghts of getting rid of the t8 out of your mind ,Sparkin without a T8 is like fish without chips!
hope you get it sorted
Butch

[sparkin]

Thanks Butch,as you can imagine on a bit of a downer at the minute:( took a test drive in a RX8 yesterday, which for a four door saloon was pretty entertaining;) and redlines about the same as the T8:o:o.....................but it`s not a 888 thou:rolleye:

[butch890]

Mazda!
Dont worry about your neck,your brains gone!:lol:
Butch

[sparkin]

Originally posted by butch890
Mazda!
Dont worry about your neck,your brains gone!:lol:
Butch

The missus already drives one you see(not a RX8),I think she fancies the salesman:o Must admit I was fudging impressed:o:D

[Rob B]

Graham,

Just been through 4 months of something very similar and 888 was the cause, I can even remember the ride where it started. Give me a call if you'd like to discuss cause/remedy. 07887 984558. Rgds, Rob

[butch890]

But theve got no soul:smug:
Butch

[butch890]

Just athought Graham,i had pains in my neck and shoulder regions after riding the 890 ,and after talking to John he sold me some of his handlebar mounts that change the angle of the bars-problem solved.
He did say they worked best for people of a certain height!
Butch

[psychlist]

Originally posted by Red SPS
Looks like he (chiropracter) will be taking most of my money for the next few months.

yep, they are good at doing that aswell.;);)

take it easy mate. [/quote]

Get some exercises to improve your mobility (and core stability for a bit of variety)!!
I don't hold much store by Chiropracters :flame:

[crm250]

Mate, had exactly the same about 4 years ago. right arm and stiff neck, it was caused by a trapped nearve, and took around 8 months to heal.
It started after throwing and symptoms were weak dead right arm, no grip, constant tingling, very stiff neck.
had some sports physio which helped a bit, was doing around 4 - 6 500mg ibuprofen a day just to get sleep and kill the pain aswell as loosen up the joints. so bad i changed quite a bit like my bike so i could at least ride something, and bought a new bed, then one day woke up and it was completly gone and never came back.
Doctor was little help, physio was more help but it wasnt cheap and the neck stretching was good (am sure i grew another couple of inches)
Now i try to do a few pressups and stretches daily to avoid it coming back.
I do pity you as its an awfull feeling and you get little sympathy from others

[psychlist]

Originally posted by crm250
........nd you get little sympathy from others

Too bluddy right!
Back pain!
Pah!
Tish, tosh and nonsense I say! ;)

[sparkin]

Eight months to heal eh,best i lay the T8 up early this year then:( If it does "mend itself" as such, I`m going to get some adjustable clip-ons,but at the moment I just feel like jacking it all in altogether!
Trick 888 anybody?

[crm250]

Dont give up, even if it takes a while to heal, you will adapt and learn that neurofen is your best mate, pop 2 about an hour before you want to ride and you will be fine for a couple of hours.
failing that get some cyclecat bars for your bike and adjust to a position that suits you best.
i put some on my 916 for a trip to spain, it made such a difference i left them on when i got back, really transforms the bike, i got this tip from BDG and never looked back

[psychlist]

Originally posted by sparkin
Eight months to heal eh,best i lay the T8 up early this year then:( If it does "mend itself" as such, I`m going to get some adjustable clip-ons,but at the moment I just feel like jacking it all in altogether!
Trick 888 anybody?

Don't you DARE even CONSIDER giving up :mad: If a namby pamby, hoity toity, airy fairy suvverner like me can get back on a bike after a little back trouble you can too!! Give yourself time and a chance to get better and we'll see you back out there "giving it some", you just wait and see sunshine :biaggi:

[Dibble]

Sparkin, I can offer you no insight or advice but wish you all the best mate .... you are that 888's spritual owner, you can't let it go ...

[rcgbob44]

Don`t you even think of giving up!:mad::mad::mad:

[sparkin]

Thanks guys,now watching WSB on Eurosport to keep my sanity.It`s not the pain,at the moment there`s very little,it`s the worry of sudden movements that renders the left arm useless for a few hours,then the pain starts.Hopefully I`ll have some better news after I`ve seen the scan/xray results and had some treatment tomorrow.

[Fordie]

Sparkin, Sorry to hear your'e having a spot of bodily malfuntions but having rode that last ride out im surprised more of us did'nt render to some serious neck problems, by the time I got home my neck was so tight with the posible weight of the helmet I did wonder whether we should on longer journeys pull over more and have breaks to stop neck fatigue happening I wonder if it is the bike that has brought your trouble on . Im supprised you are the only one to report this or are there others out there that do suffer silently with out realising it. I truly hope you can get over this with exercise and mobility and find its only short term . Regards 4D

[Redruth]

Sorry you're suffering like this Graham - what seems obvious to me - and yet no-one's mentioned it, it's old age mate - join the club :frog::frog::devil::devil:

Seriously, Ibuprofin, Paracetamol and Redbull - the panacea cocktail for bikers - unfortunately, my blood pressure has become dangerously high on this particular formula so I may not be the best person to give advice ...

on the other hand the blood pressure problem might be work related stress, but as I'm now working my notice that should correct itself, right ? :puzzled::puzzled:

[Redsps]

[quote]Originally posted by Redruth
Sorry you're suffering like this Graham - what seems obvious to me - and yet no-one's mentioned it, it's old age mate - join the club :frog::frog::devil::devil:

Old age, whats that then, you're not old until you get to at least 65;););)
well that's the theory, but I must admit a do feel a bit worse for wares sometimes..


robin

[sparkin]

Originally posted by Redruth
Sorry you're suffering like this Graham - what seems obvious to me - and yet no-one's mentioned it, it's old age mate - join the club :frog::frog::devil:

Can`t be Ruthy,I`m only 20:puzzled: well half of me is:lol::lol:

[Rooney]

Whats this the DSC OAP's section:D:D:bouncy:

[butch890]

When we were at Nagaro last year there was a guy with no left arm ,had a kind ok quick shifter that operated the clutch when he moved the gearchange lever,i can find out more details if you like.
Butch

P.s all we need then is someone to cut of your arm-Sorted!!

[sparkin]

Originally posted by butch890
all we need then is someone to cut of your arm-Sorted!!

You`re a ruddy help you are!(Broadest Narfuk accent)

[Jools]

Sorry to hear that Sparkin me old mate. Mrs Jools had a trapped nerve in her neck which gave her the same sort of symptoms. She got it sorted with physio and a bit of acupuncture, it still took about 3 months but it was curable.

Don't even think about getting an RX8 instead of a bike, if the riding position of the T8 turns out to be a real problem get another Multistrada.

I agree with Fordie though, sometimes I get really sore shoulders and neck even on my sit up and beg ST. I put it down to not being relaxed enough on the bike cos sometimes I can go all day without a problem, other times I've got a stiff neck within 10 or 15 miles (maybe I didn't swallow the viagra properly on those days). The other thing that causes me grief is being a speccy git, I find I have to lift my head higher than I would otherwise need just to look through my specs and not over the top.

[butch890]

Originally posted by sparkin
Originally posted by butch890
all we need then is someone to cut of your arm-Sorted!!

You`re a ruddy help you are!(Broadest Narfuk accent)
Glad to be of help!
Butch

[andyb]

I had the dead arm thing. The physios can tell from where your pain is as to which joint of your back the trapped nerve is.

Mine was No 6, causes the pain down my left thumb! as apposed to No 5 that would be down to your little finger.

I lay there as he gently massaged my neck.......then bang! with a twist of my head, instant local relief.

The nerves still need to mend from the furthest out to in, so it feels as bad for a while...months even!

[sparkin]

Had my first lot of treatment yesterday as Andy said"I lay there as he gently massaged my neck.......then bang!" Now have very sore neck and shoulders!The Pins and needles sensation is still there but a lot "duller" than it was.Xrays showed up quite a few problems I knew I had,but didn`t want to know,if you know what I mean:sniff: Got physio treatment twice a week for six weeks to start with then once a week after that.The upside was I got the best nights sleep I`ve had in ages last night:)

A sore,but slightly happier Sparkin out:)

[sparkin]

Had my second lot of treatment today,very sore this time:( You`re right Andy No C6 is the problem,still numbness at the hand end(furthest away,longest to heal,like you said)how long did that take to go away Andy?

[Loz]

Took a couple of years to get feeling back in my shoulder after crush-fracturing my T8 & T9. At the time, seeing my shoulder blade in the mirror bouncing up and down whilst brushing my teeth made me feel ill.
I'd say 90% of the original normal feeling was back after the two years. Things do get better mate. I wish you a swift recovery.

[andyb]

Originally posted by sparkin
Had my second lot of treatment today,very sore this time:( You`re right Andy No C6 is the problem,still numbness at the hand end(furthest away,longest to heal,like you said)how long did that take to go away Andy?

If im honest,:pig: it probably took 3 months, and the last bit right in the joint of my neck and shoulder was the longest!

[sparkin]

Three months hey:( be just about ready for the salt then:)

[rin_sun]

HI Sparkin
It's my job to sort out stuff like this. As long as you've had the scans to make sure there's nothing seriously out of place (bones), deep tissue massage by someone qualified to treat injuries is the only way forward. Trapped nerves are often compressed by swollen muscles/tendons and friction in the right places(!) can cure any number of these issues. This remedial massage used to be part of the physios training but unfortunately time pressure has caused it to be abandoned and only the rehab exercises are given, which is no use if the injury has not healed. Can't say if I can help as your location is a little obscure today...but there are a few other elite remedial masseurs in the country, we're unusual! Phone me if you want, I have a list of practitioners.
Catherine 07742 404920
PS I love treating difficult cases!

[sparkin]

Hi Catherine,it seems ages since we were at the BMF,the concises so far is C6 in my spine is nipping the Median nerve which runs down my left arm to my thumb and first three fingers.Currently having treatment twice a week which seems to be working(and working my wallet too!).I`ll try and give you a ring,we`re taking Mark"Highside"Tivey out for a drink tonight so all us cripples well be together:lol:

Graham

[Rob B]

Sparkin,

What Catherine said. I have a great sports physio near me too. She works dead hard for an hour, I just lay there

Also, drink lots of water. Sounds mad I know, but when you have the deep tissue massage it'll release all sorts into the system, you need to help the body dispose of the toxins.

Rgds, Rob:o

[Glyn]

sparkin m8
just picked this thread up
sorry to hear your not on full form
hope you get all sorted
we need you on the r/o chap
you are my favorite yokel

[sparkin]

Appreciate that "Breakfast Boy" had some more treatment today and got some more Xrays bank holiday week.Can`t see me getting out on the T8 for a month or more at the earliest:( would like to be fit for Brands TA5 or is it 6, but we`ll see.Hope your replacing me as the most stupid person on a rideout:lol::lol:

[phil_h]

Looking at your 888 ad got me reading this thread ... christ but we're a lot of old cripples, why do we keep doing it ?

I had a really bad disc prolapse early in 02, and lost most of the year doing chiro, physio, excercises and other crap like that. I though my active life was over.
Then I had surgery to remove the sticky-outy bit of the disc and suck out what was left in the centre.
Not a thing to have done lightly, but it's just not possible to live when you're in pain all the time which isnt vaguely sorted by painkillers. The valium helped sometimes, but just cos it made me fly !
Then 4 days after the op I was at home feeling great, did some little stupid and it was all back again - the surgeon hadnt done the job properly.
Anyway back in hosp 3 days later for another go ... with a different surgeon ... which turned out ok.
You dont half get looked after by the nurses and physios when you're back in for a second go at the same op though !
Well, here I am 3 years later, running up to half-marathon distance off-road, racing up to 8 times in one day.
I just have to lie down for a while after a race sometimes ;)

There IS hope, if and only if you find the right people to help you understand what YOU need to do to help yourself and find out what is really wrong.
Oh, and you need to cultivate patience too ! But you knew that bit.

I have a garage full of bikes that I never considered selling while there was the remotest hope of riding them again.
Don't do anything rash.

[sparkin]

I wish I could say the neck peoblem is the only reason I`m selling the T8,cos if it was I`d keep it and see it out, but it`s not,it`s only one of the reasons,and trust me there`s nothing wrong with the bike either,so if there`s anymore room in your garage you could have a real one;)

[phil_h]

OH NO !
I can resist anything but temptation !
I've actually sat on 2 recently as well, and I fit them :(:(:(;)