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Harv748
20-Sep-2005, 17:22
Can someone point me in the direction of a good supplier/manufacturer of bolts etc necessary for a 916.
Over the winter I want to replace some of my standard bolts for titanium (caliper bolts/pinch bolts/mudguard bolts etc etc).
I know pro-bolts do them, but I've heard some rather uncomplimentary stuff about their products and don't want crap that isn't upto the job.
Any recommendations, and better still, anyone know the various threads/lengths etc needed for the above parts, making my job of ordering a whole lot easier!!!
electricsheep
20-Sep-2005, 17:29
speak to Nelly at Cornerspeed, he should be able to point you in the right direction
[Edited on 20-9-2005 by electricsheep]
Harv748
20-Sep-2005, 17:38
Did do sometime ago, and he kindly sorted me out with some stainless items. However, he didn't stock any titanium at the time and suggested pro-bolt.
Just wandering if anyone had had any dealings with anyone else?
Carbon749
20-Sep-2005, 17:56
Try your local engineering consumable place. Normally one on every Industrial estate.
They won't stock Ti fasteners but may be able to get them and because they are not specific bike spares, just engineering fastners, the price should be good.
I did similar on an old car and a previous bike with Stainless fastners from such a supplier and the cost was about 1/3rd of what specific car and bike parts suppliers wanted.
Gaz 748
20-Sep-2005, 18:15
I use probolt titanium nuts and bolts e.t.c. never had a problem :cool:
They have a stand at the bike show every year, very helpfull.
I have used pro bolt also.
with no problems. good stuff IMO
rcgbob44
20-Sep-2005, 19:53
I have used Pro Bolt for caliper bols and fork pinch bolts, there ok but have an extreemly poor finnish for the price.
I bought a set of wheel nuts from Casoli and the quality was superb, try them for the others you are trying to get hold of, they may have a quality supplier, unlike Pro Bolt!
Stealth
20-Sep-2005, 21:51
Go to the Poggipolini site. Their fasteners don't "round" like pro bolts (more robust alloy). However, be prepared for a relaxed approach to meeting your orders from the London rep. Maybe someone should place a bulk order for common bolt sizes like the M6 15mm?? P/polini defintaley better quality (JHP sometime stock them)
Never had a problem with pro bolt titanium stuff yet. You can get a good price on em at the NEC show. Had to be dragged way by a mate when titanium fever struck,
Specialist race car suppliers are a possibility but you will need to know yer onions to order. Another option is to send one example of each of the OEM Ducati fasteners you want to replace to a cooperative supplier and ask them to match in titanium and then give you a quote for the quantity you require.
The states is an option, yoyodyne being one comapny I have used in the past, you might be lucky, get a good deal AND dodge customs!!
Ray.
I've bought quite a bit of stuff from Pro Bolt, and also Tecmoto in the past, which actually came from the same manufacturer. The cap screws I've just received from them are finished to a much better standard than previous. Being in engineering I'm a fussy git when it comes to quality of finish and dimensional accuracy, the stuff's not that bad for the price - it's very easy to **** people off, I've always found them to be helpful and prepared to do a deal - especially at the shows.
Pete.
bsr-aeroteck, pro-bolt titanium ok but their anodised stuff sucks (red turns pink pronto)
nathanhu
21-Sep-2005, 13:18
berto
that will teach you for sticking "red bolts" on your bike :lol:
I'll second the BSR-Aerotech recommendation. Poggipolini is difficult to deal with because everything comes out of Italy and unless you order sufficient quantity, you'll get stung for postage. Another quality (at a price) supplier is SEM Titanuim (http://www.sem-titan.de/hauptseite/produkte.htm). There quality is second to none, located in Germany.
If anyone's interested,I've got a huge stockpile of rounded off/rusted/milky coloured bolts and fasteners that would make fashionable Ducatisti just faint at your post ironic-ironic-irony. Just imagine at a bike meet - a crowd is drawn to your totally mint Ducati, it's beautiful lines dripping with carbon and bling. But wait! admiration turns to revulsion at the jarring realisation on closer inspection that the bolts are all shite. Only those 'in the know' will know that these are Bologna bolts. GSX-R owners (God bless-em) will not understand why you havent changed them for purple anodised ones. And the general public will think it's just a nice red bike but a bit noisy though.
£50 a tub.:smug:
Carbon749
22-Sep-2005, 23:19
Originally posted by ils
If anyone's interested,I've got a huge stockpile of rounded off/rusted/milky coloured bolts and fasteners that would make fashionable Ducatisti just faint at your post ironic-ironic-irony. Just imagine at a bike meet - a crowd is drawn to your totally mint Ducati, it's beautiful lines dripping with carbon and bling. But wait! admiration turns to revulsion at the jarring realisation on closer inspection that the bolts are all shite. Only those 'in the know' will know that these are Bologna bolts. GSX-R owners (God bless-em) will not understand why you havent changed them for purple anodised ones. And the general public will think it's just a nice red bike but a bit noisy though.
£50 a tub.:smug:
I made my own, ride the bike in the wet and let it stand overnight :mad:
:lol:Yeah Nat I was going through a particularly troublesome max power/Streetfighters phase!!!
LewisW96
30-Sep-2005, 00:34
Does anyone have a bolt list, handy?
Lewis
Stealth
30-Sep-2005, 04:04
Just looked at the SEM site. Totally impressed with the titanium hub. Has any one purchased on of these? If so, what did it cost - my deutsche wasn't good enough to loacte it in the pdf catalogue. Also, is it as strong andurable as the oem steel item?
Shazaam!
30-Sep-2005, 20:41
Titanium Substitution for Steel Fasteners
The selection of a fastener size, material and preload for a given design application is based on a number of considerations - mechanical stress, vibration, temperature fluctuations and corrosive environments to name just a few. Consequently, improper material substitution or an incorrect tightening force on a bolted connection can result in failure, reduced performance, warranty problems, or even unintended disassembly of a vital component.
Titanium has half the density/weight of steel, but also 50 - 60% of steel’s shear and Young’s modulus. So you’ll often need bigger bolts, which negates the 40% weight advantage of titanium.
Direct substitution of steel parts, size for size, with titanium replacements is rarely the best way to proceed when dealing with safety-related fasteners such as brake parts.
You have to be very careful when using Ti. There's many kinds of Ti alloys in use. Some are not suitable for use on a bike so find out what alloys are used in the fasteners and then consult with a good suitably qualified mechanical engineer.
[Edited on 30-9-2005 by twpd]
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