Byrne/Camel...what do you expect, whats exceptable etc??

[Harv748]

Don't know about you lot, but I'm really looking forward to seeing how Shane gets on this weekend (and next) given a chance on a Honda.

It reminds me of a few years back when Sean Emmett was riding for Harris in GP 500, and after giving 100% race after race on an uncompetitive bike, he was suddenly out of the blue given a ride on the Lucky Strike Suzuki after Shwantz crashed and broke his arm. From battling at the tail end to battling for a podium! It was great stuff to read about (he wrote for fast bikes at the time) and had me transfixed week after week.

So what do we thnk is going to happen to Byrne? Its already been said its a bit of a double edge sword...will he struggle like Bayliss at two tracks he doesn't know that well, or will he pull the ride of the century out of the bag and grab some serious points and subsequent exposure n the process?

Just interested...:frog:

[dickieducati]

its a double edged sword alright.

but if you want to prove yourself you have to take the chance. theres no point in banging on about not having a competitive ride and then not rising to the challenge.

i really hope he proves how good a rider he is. being realistic if he can get a top 10 finish this weekend i would say that would be a result.

best of luck to him.

make or break imho.

[Crunchy]

I too am looking forward to this weeks GP because of this :D I think Shaky's going to go for it big style. If he doesn't crash he's going to be in the points. :sing: My only worry is that he gives the bike to much respect and bottles-out a bit. But then again, Naaah:smug:

[electricsheep]

finish both races, second race in the top 10 would be a good result. in a perfect world he would finish better than the other riders that they are sticking on the bike

[TP]

He needs to finish top 12 in both I reckon.

He's opened his mouth already earlier this year about being quicker than some people on factory bikes so he needs to back it up now.

[Ozz]

Hes got the talent and hes is a bit cocky like Sheene was. Not afraid of bashing fairings either if you recall when him and Rutter were in the same team.

Would hope top 10 in both races but as a betting man: Race 1 8th, Race 2 5th.:o Heres hoping anyway.

[rockhopper]

He's done nothing since he won BSB. Discuss!!

[Crunchy]

As he claims he hasn't had the decent rides:( This is his chance:biaggi:

[Clippy]

All he really has to do is prove that he's able to ride a better bike than the KR thing - if he scores 2 points on Sunday he'll be 300% better off than he was riding the orange peril...

[Twinfan]

I reckon top 10 is a result for him in the first race. He'll need to be better than that in the second to impress the Honda guys.

Unfortunately, however well he does it looks like Vermuelen will get the bike after he's done and I would expect Chris to be Honda's main interest. Shakey is just keeping the seat warm for him.

[JPM]

1st race top ten would be great, but I really don't see that, top 15 I reckon... if he stays on!

2nd race obviously better than the first! does he get the chance to test, or is he straight into a race weekend, new team, new technicians and finally new bike!

[ziggi]

I reckon he'll need a rostrum or at least to beat Barros to stand a chance of getting this job or similar in MotoGP. Don't get me wrong, i think he's worthy of it but this must be what the Camel team are looking for.

Come on Shakey - lets 'av a rostrum position out of you !!! :D

[doogalman]

So!! if he was to do well!. would it help him get a decent ride?? sadly i think not.

[Crunchy]

Originally posted by JPM
1st race top ten would be great, but I really don't see that, top 15 I reckon... if he stays on!

2nd race obviously better than the first! does he get the chance to test, or is he straight into a race weekend, new team, new technicians and finally new bike!

He goes straight into a race weekend:( Friday will be his first day on the bike (except the evenings on his own were he'll be sitting on the bike going BRUUUM BRUM) :D

[KeefyB]

Hmmm,18th in the first practice session.I think he had better get his finger out.:ninja:

[dickieducati]

no better for him in a wet 2nd session still 18th. loris doing well 4th in the wet after 3rd place in the dry.

[JPM]

Not looking good for him really is it? pretty much where he was on the KTM, admittedly it was p*ssing down

[Rattler]

Time will tell - he's got 2 races, so a good start (both in practice, qualifying and races) with improving across the 2 races will do him good and put him in the shop window for a potential ride next year (probably not at the sharp end though).

Then Chris V takes over for the next 3, he's got a point to prove too.

So Shakey needs to do well to impress and needs to do better than Chris V will.

But what other riders could Honda call upon? The other riders are still involved in other race series (Vermuellen, Kiyonari etc) - who else could they choose? Fil2 has got his Cadwell commitments ;)

Tim

[Twinfan]

I think Kiyo is getting the RCV for the last race of the season - so that's Shakey for 2, Vermuelen for 2 and Kiyo for 1.

[JPM]

Didn't exactly set the world on fire did he?

Pretty much finished where he would of on the KTM

[TP]

I agree with Freak - he didn't do enough with it really.

[dickieducati]

yeah i'm sure it takes a while to get used to things but cant see anyone looking at him performance and saying "jeez, this boy can ride, lets get him on board".

one more race to show he can do it.

wont hold my breath.

[TP]

I think Vermuelen has the best chance out of the three proposed riders to be honest.

He's won a world champioship for them already, came close last year and is doing ok this year - and delivered second in the Suzuka 8 hour. Honda LOVE the 8 hour.

Go Chris ;)

[domski]

I think Shakey was more worried about crashing and blowing his chances.

He should just go out and write a couple off at Qatar :D

I think Chris V, is Honda's new golden boy anyway, so it won't matter if Shakey wins next w/e.

Bloody Aussies :P

[domski]

Camel Honda team principal Sito Pons commented: “Today Shane managed to complete this challenging race pretty well, and scored points, he didn’t make any mistakes, although he obviously he needs time to learn all the secrets of this bike to get the most out of it. In the next race in Qatar he will undoubtedly take another step forward.”


...in other words "What were we thinking? At least we get that fast Aussie bloke to ride it properly for two races. Bugger!"

[JPM]

I think Shakey should of done a an OJ and took the bull by the horns, if he crashes he crashes and that's racing, but look at OJ nearly won a race, OK a track he knows, wet which he likes and a bike he's had time on, but to come into a team and do that, fair play!

It's a bit like Lavilla at GSE doesn't know the circuits and look where he is now

[ericthered40]

I think Shakey was just worried, he needs lot's of time on the bike and he's not going to get it.

mad as a box of frogs but only a mere mortal :lol:

[domski]

He finished 14th... After the top 20 crashed out :lol:

[Nigel C]

should have given the ride to James Ellison IMHO

[VanDaMauler]

yep, but dont forget he`s Racing with the absolute creme de la creme of motorcycle Racing, so In the grand scale of things, 18th aint too bad and at least he beat Ruben Xuas, what his excuse then? :puzzled:

[Edited on 26-9-2005 by Bubbles]