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glj100
27-Sep-2005, 00:00
Hi all.

I have bought a cat 3 damaged 998 with all paperwork from a dealer with a VNC check. The engine does not have a number on the side.
The frame is a 998 with the correct numbers on the headstock.
My problem is when I went to change the oil I found out it has a deep sump engine. That must mean that it has a 996R or 998S engine in it.

How do I identify if it has a 996R or 998S engine in it ?

The CPU says 996R on it but I do not know how to identify if it is a proper R engine.

Any help please

nelly
27-Sep-2005, 00:10
Not conclusive, but try Ducati UK with the frame number and they should tell you what it "should be".
The 996R ECU was fitted to a few 998's when they got Termi cans fitted.
Only real way to be sure would be to pull it apart and see what's inside, cam spec's, Ti rods etc.

Henners
27-Sep-2005, 00:11
I guess there's no plate on the headstock so that would tend to indicate it's not a 996R although there are some without. The simple answer is to email the engine, frame and registration numbers to: info@ducatiuk.com and they will give you the bike's history.

glj100
27-Sep-2005, 00:19
The headstock is adjustable and does fit the correct 998 codes, so it is deff a 998.

There are standard cans on the bike at the moment and it runs very sweet.

Hope the info is more help

andyb
27-Sep-2005, 00:19
Oh thank god! I thought this was going to be another one of those sanctamonious 996r threads!:lol::lol:

Henners
27-Sep-2005, 00:22
They're both 998cc engines - email DUK and you'll know for sure.

glj100
27-Sep-2005, 00:27
I had the bike services at Gtech (Recommended) who contacted Ducati but we are still waiting for info. He gave them the cam numbers for a trace.

Strange one to sort out.

andyb
27-Sep-2005, 00:32
Do you have a carbon air box? Do you have ohlins front? is it a bp or mono? The cam numbers will tell you as they make quite a difference on the power output 998 or a 998S!

andyb
27-Sep-2005, 00:32
Is gtech, geoff who was at jhp?

glj100
27-Sep-2005, 00:39
No carbon air box, no Ohlins front Showa , Ohlins on the rear and for the damper.

Yes, Geoff was at JHP.

Good man. Recommend him.

glj100
27-Sep-2005, 00:40
also 4 pad brake calipers!

KeefyB
27-Sep-2005, 07:17
Sounds like a 998S!

Twinfan
27-Sep-2005, 12:27
Yep, certainly sounds like a 998S to me...

BDG
27-Sep-2005, 12:48
Originally posted by andyb
Oh thank god! I thought this was going to be another one of those sanctamonious 996r threads!:lol::lol:

:lol::lol::lol:

andyb
27-Sep-2005, 23:14
Yeah 998s, all the fun of a 996r........without the back patting and continuous thread writing!:lol:

Jon
27-Sep-2005, 23:29
Originally posted by andyb
Yeah 998s, all the fun of a 996r........without the back patting and continuous thread writing!:lol:

Sounds like you wish you were a member Andy:P

adam
28-Sep-2005, 06:46
andy is feeling left out

andyb
28-Sep-2005, 09:58
Originally posted by adam
andy is feeling left out

left out in Spain......................did i mention i was going?

BDG
28-Sep-2005, 11:44
Originally posted by andyb
Yeah 998s, all the fun of a 996r........without the back patting and continuous thread writing!:lol:

Sorry Andy but the 996R has a plaque on the top yoke and the 998S doesn't, i know its extra weight but i still can't agree with your statement, very blinkered and narrow minded.;)

Ian Harris
28-Sep-2005, 11:54
Originally posted by BDG

Sorry Andy but the 996R has a plaque on the top yoke and the 998S doesn't, i know its extra weight but i still can't agree with your statement, very blinkered and narrow minded.;)

I heard that it helps with turn-in...just that little bit of extra weight above the centre of mass works wonders!

JPM
28-Sep-2005, 12:02
Originally posted by BDG
Originally posted by andyb
Yeah 998s, all the fun of a 996r........without the back patting and continuous thread writing!:lol:

Sorry Andy but the 996R has a plaque on the top yoke and the 998S doesn't, i know its extra weight but i still can't agree with your statement, very blinkered and narrow minded.;)

Think you'll find the Bostrom/Bayliss 998S models have a plaque on the top yoke.... and didn't some of the 996R's come without the plaque? :P

Henners
28-Sep-2005, 14:32
Originally posted by JPM
and didn't some of the 996R's come without the plaque?

... correcto :P But BDG managed to buy one for his - off ebay wasn't it Shaun??? :lol:

TP
28-Sep-2005, 16:19
Originally posted by Henners
Originally posted by JPM
and didn't some of the 996R's come without the plaque?

... correcto :P But BDG managed to buy one for his - off ebay wasn't it Shaun??? :lol:

Really?

I'd be interested in that - my 998R doesn't have the plaque on it anymore. I've got the rest of the bits and pieces so I know what number it was but not having the plaque on the yoke gives me the irrits!

Clues?

JPM
28-Sep-2005, 16:30
Ringer! :frog:

BDG
28-Sep-2005, 16:35
Originally posted by TP
Originally posted by Henners
Originally posted by JPM
and didn't some of the 996R's come without the plaque?

... correcto :P But BDG managed to buy one for his - off ebay wasn't it Shaun??? :lol:

Really?

I'd be interested in that - my 998R doesn't have the plaque on it anymore. I've got the rest of the bits and pieces so I know what number it was but not having the plaque on the yoke gives me the irrits!

Clues?

Tony, its whats commonly known as a joke, henners was taking the rip about ebay.

I do know a good carpenter who could make you a nice pine plaque:lol:

In actual fact the first owner of my bike said it came without a plaque, he wrote to the factory and they supplied it. I still have the letter from the factory along with all the original paperwork.

TP
28-Sep-2005, 16:37
Ahh .. I'll write a letter then.

Gotta have the plaque really!

BDG
28-Sep-2005, 17:34
Originally posted by TP
Ahh .. I'll write a letter then.

Gotta have the plaque really!

Don't let AndyB know, delete your post now!

rcgbob44
28-Sep-2005, 20:25
I love my 998s.

andyb
28-Sep-2005, 20:31
Originally posted by BDG
Originally posted by TP
Ahh .. I'll write a letter then.

Gotta have the plaque really!

Don't let AndyB know, delete your post now!

Tp, how many times have your lot got to be told, you cant buy class!!:lol::lol::frog:

andyb
28-Sep-2005, 20:40
:smug:

rcgbob44
29-Sep-2005, 15:18
I must fit a 999 top yoke to my 998, love that shape!

Henners
29-Sep-2005, 15:52
... there's something classy about this one ;)

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-7/773773/PFOPS-Img_0590.jpg

andyb
29-Sep-2005, 22:00
Originally posted by Henners
... there's something classy about this one ;)

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-7/773773/PFOPS-Img_0590.jpg

See Henners even your speedo is trying to tell you something!!:lol::lol:

rcgbob44
30-Sep-2005, 00:06
Henners have you had one of then Crazy spanish drills on that speedo.

Henners
30-Sep-2005, 00:08
... I bought a good 'un Guv :lol: