Socket size.......

[logyk]

Could someone in the know let me know the socket size for the rear axle nut on a 999.....need to remove the back wheel and will need to buy the socket.

Thanks in anticipation.

[yeti]

Have you rung Nelly? He'll know straight off the top of his head.....

[swannymere]

:saint:Rear wheel nut is 30mm (180 N/m):saint:

[logyk]

Thanks guys

[chris999]

36mm isn't it !!? :puzzled:

[mark749s]

mine is 36mm

mark

[andyb]

Originally posted by swannymere
:saint:Rear wheel nut is 30mm (180 N/m):saint:

perhaps youve got small nuts........?:lol::lol:

[ace]

i,m wiv the big nut boys !! 36mm it is , just checked !!

[logyk]

Thanks due to the later posters....fortunately I had not been out and purchased a socket.

[Real McCoy]

yeh but what about the earlyer posters :lol::P

[swannymere]

:saint:Got the info straight from my DUCATI Workshop manual,nice to know it's accurate,sorry for any inconvienience caused:puzzled:

[ace]

got my info straight from my socket set !!! had to adjust my chain !!

[HW]

Don't mean to throw a socket (erm, spanner) in the works, but doesn't it depend on waht tpe of swing arm you have? Or are the later models the same nut size?

[swannymere]

:saint:Usually just grab whatever socket fits,would'nt have a clue what size it was,so i looked it up:saint:

[swannymere]

:saint:Mine's grey swing arm 03 model

[ace]

best bet then is to take a bloody tape measure to it then !!! not rocket science !!!
not ace !!

[swannymere]

:P Just took a micrometer to it 36mm and so is my socket.WTF,my manual says 30mm and someone else posted 30mm and 180nm but has now deleted the post.
'Not very Ace' what does that mean?

[Rally]

Originally posted by swannymere
my manual says 30mm and someone else posted 30mm and 180nm but has now deleted the post.

That was me :D Didn't want to duplicate the (mis)information ;)

The manual says 30mm... but probably refers to the thread of the axle not the socket you require. Oops.

If it's any consolation Logyk, I have a titanium axle nut supplied by a well known Tasty supplier which, when I came to fit it last weekend turned out to be totally the wrong size.

[ace]

my attempt at a joke :rolleye: obviously not !!! seriously , if they get the size wrong wot about the torque settin :(

[Rally]

Yeah, it should be 18 Nm. <=== and that's my attempt at a joke. :P

[swannymere]

Originally posted by ace
my attempt at a joke :rolleye: obviously not !!! seriously , if they get the size wrong wot about the torque settin :(

I thought it might be an 'in' joke,don't worry not very quick on the uptake after acouple of beers.Just checking the manual again,then going to e-mail DUK to find out why it does'nt tell you 'a' socket size:flame:

[ace]

i tried to read one of them manual thingys once ! got bored after it said
"CONGRATULATIONS ON BUYING YOUR FS1E YAMAHA " it,s just gone downhill since then :lol:

[Rushjob]

I thought it might be an 'in' joke,don't worry not very quick on the uptake after acouple of beers.Just checking the manual again,then going to e-mail DUK to find out why it does'nt tell you 'a' socket size
I'd imagine because it's a workshop manual the writer assumed ( wrongly it seems ) that the reader would READ what was written.

In mine ( ST4S ) it states at the top of column on each page in bold
Part Thread (mm) Nm +/- 10% tolerance Notes

Not seen many socket / spanner sizes in any factory manuals for this sort of thing as the torque value to be used has nothing to do with the size of the spanner/ socket / allen key used to tighten it - it relates to the thread size of the fastener, the purpose it was designed for & it's and the item it threads into's material.

Just a thought before a foot in mouth email gets sent out..........

[Rushjob]

As an aside... my rear axle at M25 diameter is rated at 65Nm
The 999RS gives M28.5 at 80Nm
A jump to 180Nm for an increase of another 1.5mm diameter seems a hell of an increase to me.
Just a thought....... :)

[rockhopper]

Can we do this entire thread again in foot/pounds please? Nm mean nothing to me!

[ace]

well we pay enough for their bloody bikes they should give us the socket/spanner/wotever we want to know size , in a book the size of an encyclopedia !!! ( encyclopedia spelled right at this time !!! result )

[Rushjob]

No.
:lol:
Just look on the other side of the torque wrench.......

[Rally]

Just to avoid any doubt, Rushjob, look it up. (http://www.zincprotest.com/dsc/999torque.pdf) ;)

[rockhopper]

Bloody EEC!!

[Rushjob]

encyclopedia

Well.... ok if you're speaking Modern English ( is that an oxymoron??? )
The original spelling from the ORIGIN pseudo-Greek enkuklopaideia, for enkuklios paideia ‘all-round education’ is Encyclopaedia and it still appears in the Oxford English dictionary.
Alongside the abridged version.........
You'll be typing in an American accent next and misspelling Paediatrics....
:lol:

[Rushjob]

Just to avoid any doubt, Rushjob, look it up.

I did..... that's what got me thinking when you compare it to the two other values used in similar applications.
On the 996 the rear axle threads are M33 and M38 which only rate 137 and 157Nm respectively!
I know that Ducati have amended some torque values but on what and which way they went I couldn't say.

[Edited on 26-10-2005 by Rushjob]

[ace]

ere your not my old english teacher are you ? ( did i spell it right sir )

[KeefyB]

Originally posted by HW
Don't mean to throw a socket (erm, spanner) in the works, but doesn't it depend on waht tpe of swing arm you have? Or are the later models the same nut size?
Nope,all 999/749 rear wheel nuts are the same,....36mm.

[swannymere]

[i]

Just a thought before a foot in mouth email gets sent out..........


Thanks,still think it's a **** take,not showing the correct socket size.:P

[logyk]

I am still confused as to whether there is any sort of agreement here on the torque setting to be used with a 36mm nut :puzzled:

[Rushjob]

Wait till tomorrow Phil & ask one of the Tech guys on the Ducati stand!

[logyk]

Maybe I will have to....but I was planning on removing the wheel tonight !

[Rally]

Originally posted by logyk
I am still confused as to whether there is any sort of agreement here on the torque setting to be used with a 36mm nut

Like I said, if you're in doubt then look it up. (http://www.zincprotest.com/dsc/999torque.pdf)
(clue: click on the link)

[guest1]

Originally posted by Rally
Originally posted by logyk
I am still confused as to whether there is any sort of agreement here on the torque setting to be used with a 36mm nut

Like I said, if you're in doubt then look it up. (http://www.zincprotest.com/dsc/999torque.pdf)
(clue: click on the link)

The rear wheel nut on mine is 36mm socket size.(clue: look on your bike) :)
180Nm means I'm lifting the bike off it's side stand on the upswing
(999s '06)

[Rally]

Hey, I'm just trying to help out here! :)

Yes, the rear nut requires a 36mm socket. I think we've established that.

But there seems to be some doubt over the torque setting so I put up the pdf so people can look it up for themselves. It says 180 Nm (+-10%) (or 132 lbft if you're Rockhopper ;) )

[guest1]

Originally posted by Rally
Hey, I'm just trying to help out here! :)

Yes, the rear nut requires a 36mm socket. I think we've established that.

But there seems to be some doubt over the torque setting so I put up the pdf so people can look it up for themselves. It says 180 Nm (+-10%) (or 132 lbft if you're Rockhopper ;) )

(scouse accent) Calm down, calm down.

I only know the socket size for sure cos I adjusted the chain last night.
As for the 180Nm, I personally employ a midget to come and hold the socket whilst I turn the bike.

Always been 180Nm from 03 to 06.

It also says in the manual that chain adjustment should be done by dealer.....OMG, Is my warranty void now?:puzzled:

[Rally]

Originally posted by guest1
I personally employ a midget to come and hold the socket whilst I turn the bike.


Is that a 1/2in midget or 3/8th? :D

[KeefyB]

Originally posted by Rally
Hey, I'm just trying to help out here! :)

Yes, the rear nut requires a 36mm socket. I think we've established that.

But there seems to be some doubt over the torque setting so I put up the pdf so people can look it up for themselves. It says 180 Nm (+-10%) (or 132 lbft if you're Rockhopper ;) )
Yep,you can lead a horse to water............!;)

[duc daz]

its a 36mm socket for sure :D

[chris999]

jesus -- this has turned into some thread..

not being funny but if you think M30 nut is the socket size (30mm) maybe someone more knowledgeable should be adjusting such a critical part of the bike ...

+ this has been covered before in this section (correctly the first time) - search !!!??

just a thought ??!!!! :puzzled::puzzled:

[mark749s]

if you measure a nut or bolt across flats this is the corresponding socket/spanner size. if you measure your back wheel nut you will find it is 36mm across flats

another piece of useless info

mark

[Rushjob]

Can I just add that the tolerance on the given setting is +/- 5%, not 10.%.... :devil:

Ducks, grabs coat & heads for cover :lol:

[logyk]

'Kin 'ell....trying to get you lot to agree anything is like getting unanimity in the HoC !

So its 180nm is it ?

[Davieravie]

Use the old method we used on aircraft....180 Nm is roughly three and a half white fingers or 4 if you are a girl....SIMPLE!!! :P

[rockhopper]

Originally posted by Rally
But there seems to be some doubt over the torque setting so I put up the pdf so people can look it up for themselves. It says 180 Nm (+-10%) (or 132 lbft if you're Rockhopper ;) )

:D