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10mph in a queue of traffic. Yes I was wrong but a ticking off would have done. Sometimes I think they could do themselves a favour on the PR. Not like I was passing at school at closing time.
Still at least its not a points and tell your insurance about it job which it will be in a few months
This could be one of those that open a can of worms but for my 10 penneth I still believe we should have some control over our own actions and as we all make risk assessments every day like crossing a road only when it's clear I think this also falls into the same category
G
I never, ever tell anyone they got just what they deserved (normally), but using a mobile whilst driving is a pet peeve of mine.
I'm glad you won't get any points, etc, but equally glad you got nicked. It's not on, whatever the conditions or the circumstances.
Now getting off the high horse before I fall off.
Well theyre bringing in new Charges like Death through Careless driving (encompases using a mobile & killing someone ) which carries a maximum penalty of 5 yrs imprisonment.
/ian
philthy
03-Nov-2005, 18:33
Originally posted by Loz
I never, ever tell anyone they got just what they deserved (normally), but using a mobile whilst driving is a pet peeve of mine.
I'm glad you won't get any points, etc, but equally glad you got nicked. It's not on, whatever the conditions or the circumstances.
Now getting off the high horse before I fall off.
Major pet hate of mine too.
I used to have a hands free until one day at 70mph on the motorway in traffic I took a five minute call and realised at the end of it that I had no recollection of what had happened driving wise during the call. I could have killed someone.
Now I leave the mobile in the glove box and never ever answered a call in the last 3 years.................................until last week when I was expecting a call from an unhappy customer and had left the phone in my top pocket. It rang..... I took it out of my pocket and put it to my ear....................... just as a traffic cop stepped out from behind a car he had just stopped for speeding...............I smiled and took the ticket.......Serves me right...........The phone now stays in the glove box again.
Some may think it's safe to use them but I know of two motorcyclists around here who have been killed by people driving while using their mobile phones.
It's just not worth it.
I have to agree with the majority here, i was following a car down a 60 mph road doing around 25mph and all over the place, hen it was safe i passed him, guess what he was on the phone, if he had been in a built up area with the usual hazards the other road users would not of had a chance:flame:
Redruth
03-Nov-2005, 18:46
I know it seems harmless when queuing in traffic but for my twopenneth, if it's important enough to speak on the phone and you're not hands free, it's important enough to pull off the road and stop driving to answer.
I've made a point of checking out drivers that have seemed to be erratic, both when I'm riding and driving. A high proportion of them are using mobiles that are not hands free.
Still, unlucky 749er and I wouldn't wish bad luck on anyone.
Stealth
03-Nov-2005, 19:30
When I am on bike and I see middle aged business men in 4x4s serving all across the road while on the phone, it makes me furious. On a bike, I cannot see why anyone would not be concentrating 100% on their driving.
When driving to work, I all too easily become the very thing that I ctiticise when on a bike. Why do i use the phone - admittedly blue tooth? Because driving a car on a commute day in day out is sooooooo boring - however flash the car. In fact, not remembering the journey is a blessing.
This is why I am increasingly using a bike to get to work. It is never boring, I am always fresh when i arrive, and although workmates say, Oooh! isn't it dangerous, i say "yes, but when i am so cocooned from danger that i run over someone and don't notice. then I say, some danger is good"
here endeth the lesson........................:devil:
Stealth
03-Nov-2005, 19:31
By the way, that was "swerving" all over the road. Anything else would be very messy...........................
Nigel C
03-Nov-2005, 20:08
See them every day van drivers, women(mostly young) taxi drivers all using mobiles, yet i have never once seen anyone stopped for it :puzzled:, whats the use of a law if it's not enforced ???
people know they can get away with it so they just carry on yacking into their phones regardless :mad:
Followed a car going to work a couple of weeks ago driving erratically and coming up to a junction onto a main road i spotted the phone in her right hand car had 3 passengers she turned right out the side road we where in onto the main road i was close enough to see her TEXTING with her right hand while negotiating the junction FFS !!!
without a doubt it realy makes you loose concentration!
I have a hands free kit in my car ! but i notice after i have taken a call ,I tend to end up in "lane 1" going very slow, and agree i can't remember the last part of the journey:barfy:
I'm no beter other than i have a full hands free kit!
Food for thought:saint:
A lot of hypocrites out there, who smokes,eats,drinks,or reads a map when driving. you see it all the time.
i can say that it affects your concentration away from driving. I can sit right next to some people, shiny blue and yellow with police written on the front and they wont see you.......
until you wave.....and er yes those DO get something done about them!
:pig:
I do know a story of a guy who got knocked of his bike and killed!
the police checked his mobile phone and proved that he (the car driver) had just sent a lenghty text message! and he was done for some sort of manslaughter !!!!
not sure if it's true !!!
Andy B what is the score???
mav
I would say that at virtually every 'serious' collision these days, the Police sieze the mobile phone from all parties involved. They are then tested to see if they were being used at the time of the incident.
Slightly different tact,
I remember one where a beautiful 24yr old died after a collision with a vehicle. She had been texting all evening on her phone including up to the collision as she crossed the road.
The context of the texts were a virtual rundown of her getting more and more drunk as the evening went on.
Good evidence, but a very sad affair.......especially where her parents were concerned!
:(
Andy,I do have a question!
The last two mates of mine (who have been killed) on their bikes!!
were both carrying mobile phones on them!
In both cases their phones were never returned to their family?
any reason why?
MARTIN H
03-Nov-2005, 22:20
I got done for the same thing in July, phone rang as I was waiting at a roundabout I answered it and told the caller I would ring them back shortly. Got pulled just down the road and have to say it was fair enough cant complain really.
Originally posted by madmav
Andy,I do have a question!
The last two mates of mine (who have been killed) on their bikes!!
were both carrying mobile phones on them!
In both cases their phones were never returned to their family?
any reason why?
Obviously i aint got a scooby on those particular incidents, but, presumably they wernt on the phone whilst riding, so i couldnt see why they couldnt get them back.
Were they refused to be returned?
Originally posted by andyb
[quote]Originally posted by madmav
Andy,I do have a question!
Were they refused to be returned?
not sure andy, but i have often wondered if the content of the text/phones were looked at and the dealing officer, might have decided (my1 mate had 2 or 3 ) female admirers;)
that it might have been beter to say the phones were destroyed!;) rather than return and inflict more pain !!!
makes me wonder!;)
Hmm, dont know, you saying that Bobbies got a heart?:D
Originally posted by andyb
Hmm, dont know, you saying that Bobbies got a heart?:D
woooooooooooooooooooo:D
woudl'nt go that far:lol::lol::lol::lol:;)
Totally agree with BIG-G and Chass. LOZ : Have you ever broken the speed limit?If so,did you consider if it was any more appropriate to do it past a village primary school or on an empty road? Surely circumstances have to be an issue. Dseered : I assume you have NEVER fiddled with the radio/looked at a map/eaten/drank/smoked etc whilst driving or riding? Any of these could also be construed as a 'hazard' to other road users. Once again,circumstances must be taken into consideration.
I dont condone the use of mobiles whilst driving,but don't see it as a given that it's worse than other in-car distractions.749er...I think you were unfortunate,and I agree a ticking-off would have been sufficient.Maybe the copper could spare the time to find the criminal who caused £500 worth of damage to my car instead if he has nothing better to do...... :flame:
kwikbitch
03-Nov-2005, 22:57
Originally posted by chass
A lot of hypocrites out there, who smokes,eats,drinks,or reads a map when driving. you see it all the time.
Smoking whilst driving...Mmm???
I think that as much concentration is lost when getting one out of a packet one handed and then lighting up.
Then again just think about the last time you reached forward for a CD, or to change the channel on the radio.
Those in glass houses........................!
Originally posted by sye73 LOZ : Have you ever broken the speed limit?If so,did you consider if it was any more appropriate to do it past a village primary school or on an empty road? Surely circumstances have to be an issue.
If I do speed, it is with due regard to the circumstances (e.g. not in a village or town, with due consideration for other traffic, etc), but more importantly, I do it with my full concentration.
Let's face it !
If you took Phones, radio's, fags, passengers, and anything els you could out of a car!
then tied some drivers hands to the wheel! they still would'nt drive properly!!:lol:
Hang on whilst I just climb aboard me soap box
I can remember someone getting done for eating an apple whilst driving (this year?).
Think it all comes down to being in control and to be honest, if yer on the phone then as most agree - yer not compus mentus on yer driving.
Meself nearly got took out by dickswede on tuesday morning. Me in outside lane on bike, him in middle lane on phone drifting into outside lane whilst on phone and braking harshly (cos he didn't realise the cars in front were braking hard).
clockwork orange
03-Nov-2005, 23:54
In the last 2 days I have had about 5 near misses, none my fault. All due to t'other not paying attention for whatever reason. One of those was potentially a 10 car pileup at 70mph - I had enough space but the guy who forced his way in behind me did not, and he was going mmmmmmmph faster than I was.......
The others were all cars pulling out of junctions without looking. I drive an Astravan and had the lights on......
So it strikes me that mobiles are not the only cause of "non-attention" accidents by a long shot.
But, laws are laws. Is 50mph in a 30 any better or worse than using a mobile ??? Far more people routinely break the speed limit in residential areas than use hand held mobiles.
Well just back from the cop shop doing the HORTE thing.
Just to be clear. I do have a hands free kit. I dont use the phone without it, but today I had been on the phone all morning, and the battery had died on it. I do agree that it is a bad thing, but so is smoking and eating/drinking changing the channel on the radio etc
Good point on the observation, but I cant see round corners. I was queueing in a line of stop start traffic when the phone wrang. Police car approached from a side road, and was naturally looking to his right and saw me.
I agree with every single one of you that its a bad idea to do anything while driving. Last time I was out I was almost taken out on a roundabout by a guy reading a map, then turning right from the left hand lane when I was trying to go straight on. (dual carraigeway)
What is interesting about the use of phones in cars debate is that there are 2 schools of thought. One says you should not use the phone and drive as you are not concentrating on what you are doing. If so then we should not be using phones at all, even with hands free. The other is that it is ok to talk.
I am still a bit down about it. A combination of knowing it was my own fault, knowing that its not my normal behaviour and that also when I am in the car I drive like an angel. Never speed these days, (I have a 1.4 TDI 3 cylinder Audi A2) so there is no point in driving fast.
The girl who did my Horte thought it was a bit harsh too.
Loz : That is precisely my point "...due regard to circumstances/surroundings" 749er was in a traffic jam doing 10mph!!
Dseered : You mentioned that you were caught speeding,is that not also hazardous to other road users??!! Also,I think if you are being totaly honest,you cannot say that you do and always will know everything that is happening around your vehicle (If you're pulling out of a t-junction and a cyclist pulls up in your rear quarter blind spot,you think you'd be able to see him,EVERY TIME,WITHOUT FAIL?).
Still reckon this is the type of situation that doesn't help with the overall opinion of the police.....Still going for the easy target.In my situation,I was unlucky that there was no police officer around..agreed.What really annoys me is that even when a crime has been commited,they are generally indifferent to chasing things up.I made them aware 6 weeks ago that cctv was present nearby.....Have I heard anything?Do they contact me?Have they watched the cctv?........
Rant over !!
has anybody driven a car with a bird seating in the passenger seat with an extra short mini on?
maybe the police ought to ban that too
how far is this going to go
single seat cars
just to make up for shite drivers
Mad Dog Bianchi
04-Nov-2005, 03:33
cell phones are a bane. Sorry, but I have had too many misses from them and not from short minis or apple eaters. Buddy was creamed at about 10mph by one, right after he had dressed up his 900SS. Generally, no matter what the conditions (I agree that circumstances are a big part of our driving), cell phone use has been a big problem for me personally far far too many times both here in Japan and in the US. I have also been hit by a bicycle (the guy was texting at night!), pedestrians, a woman pushing a pram, as well as gobs of near misses. Convenience is one thing, but when you hit people at any and all speeds with a variety of vehicles and modes of movement, I don't think it is the driving skills at all. It is that momentary loss of concentrattion that is part and parcel of the technology and when I am on a bike or bicycle, I would rather folks dispense with the convenience regardless of the circumstances.
Stealth
04-Nov-2005, 07:20
Frankly, there are some drivers who concentrate and some (many) who don't. Whatever the distraction, there will be someone who basically "checks out" of driving and becomes more interested in the distraction. Illegal or immoral, the consequences are high risk.
Anyway, seeing as how the Governemnt is aiming to monitor every vehicle it won't be long before the GPS chips are implanted in the driver. First to monitor what they are doing...... and then to control them....................aaargh!
Scary people in Government y'know. Just off to my bunker in the backwoods of Montana to organise the rebellion.
Crunchy
04-Nov-2005, 09:29
This was on the BBC website today. Whatcar must have been reading the board
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4405482.stm
Paul James
04-Nov-2005, 17:57
I'd see all phone use in vehicles banned, end of story and less ****s not paying attention to their driving. Lorry drivers are some of the worst offenders and they are driving a vehicle with massive killing potential. Elbow steering and watching portable televisions while driving are other examples you regularly see and they are supposedly "professionals" !!
philthy
04-Nov-2005, 18:37
Originally posted by ducati
has anybody driven a car with a bird seating in the passenger seat with an extra short mini on?
Not for about 20 years:(:(:(
Any chance of arranging it for me?:o:o:o:D
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