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Redruth
11-Nov-2005, 13:56
First time I've ridden my new bike to the gymn. Was thinking 'how convenient', easy to get out of the garage, nip to the gymn with rucksack on back, park right outside, an hour and a half later, back out to the bike, some F****** B@RSTARD of a private parking warden has stuck a ticket on my bike. Now admittedly, it was the only bike there and I didn't see the big yellow sign recently erected by the owners of the land, some company in Watford, but since I've been going to that gymn ALL the bikes have parked on this bit of pavement. It's not a thoroughfare. It's a dead end road opposite some fencing, no obstruction whatsoever and I think £100 (£50 if I pay in 14 days) is a bit bloody excessive. The B@RSTARD also said my tax disc wasn't visible. Well, what kind of W@NKER doesn't know where to look for a tax disc on a bike? Clearly visible, brand new not even a speck of dirt on it.

Having just completed Advocacy Skills at college I'm sorely tempted not to pay this one and let them take me to court, at which point I shall argue disproportionality.
:flame::flame::flame:

Any comments/help here?

Dibble
11-Nov-2005, 14:01
Originally posted by Redruth
First time I've ridden my new bike to the gymn. Was thinking 'how convenient', easy to get out of the garage, nip to the gymn with rucksack on back, park right outside, an hour and a half later, back out to the bike, some F****** B@RSTARD of a private parking warden has stuck a ticket on my bike. Now admittedly, it was the only bike there and I didn't see the big yellow sign recently erected by the owners of the land, some company in Watford, but since I've been going to that gymn ALL the bikes have parked on this bit of pavement. It's not a thoroughfare. It's a dead end road opposite some fencing, no obstruction whatsoever and I think £100 (£50 if I pay in 14 days) is a bit bloody excessive. The B@RSTARD also said my tax disc wasn't visible. Well, what kind of W@NKER doesn't know where to look for a tax disc on a bike? Clearly visible, brand new not even a speck of dirt on it.

Having just completed Advocacy Skills at college I'm sorely tempted not to pay this one and let them take me to court, at which point I shall argue disproportionality.
:flame::flame::flame:

Any comments/help here?

I really shouldn't be laughing should i ???

Still, i know how you can earn a swift bullseye .... !!!! :saint:

andyb
11-Nov-2005, 14:04
Originally posted by Redruth
First time I've ridden my new bike to the gymn. Was thinking 'how convenient', easy to get out of the garage, nip to the gymn with rucksack on back, park right outside, an hour and a half later, back out to the bike, some F****** B@RSTARD of a private parking warden has stuck a ticket on my bike. Now admittedly, it was the only bike there and I didn't see the big yellow sign recently erected by the owners of the land, some company in Watford, but since I've been going to that gymn ALL the bikes have parked on this bit of pavement. It's not a thoroughfare. It's a dead end road opposite some fencing, no obstruction whatsoever and I think £100 (£50 if I pay in 14 days) is a bit bloody excessive. The B@RSTARD also said my tax disc wasn't visible. Well, what kind of W@NKER doesn't know where to look for a tax disc on a bike? Clearly visible, brand new not even a speck of dirt on it.

Having just completed Advocacy Skills at college I'm sorely tempted not to pay this one and let them take me to court, at which point I shall argue disproportionality.
:flame::flame::flame:

Any comments/help here?

Saving money tip No1

Run to the gym.........by the time you get there you dont need it, saving membership fees.

Saving money tip No 2

Also saving on parking fees...........


Call me a thicky but, is disproportionality the reason why you have to go to the gym?;):lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Edited on 11-11-2005 by andyb]

Redruth
11-Nov-2005, 14:15
Dibble, Andy, big help, thanks.

Actually, I'm not best pleased with the gymn because they must have seen where I parked, let me walk in and didn't warn me. They are going to try to sort it out but I guess, failing that, I'll just have to pay it.

Also, they had a 2 minutes silence at 11 am which everyone stopped working out for. After 5 minutes of silence, still no announcement that the silence was over! Bloody shambles, really.

I go to the gymn partly to get away from the stresses and strains of daily life. Didn't really work today.

:(

Dibble
11-Nov-2005, 14:17
Originally posted by Redruth
Dibble, big help, thanks.


I go to the gymn partly to get away from the stresses and strains of daily life. Didn't really work today.

:(

you're welcome .... I can offer some stress relief, and the parkings free ... ;)

andyb
11-Nov-2005, 14:20
WTF has your tax disc got to do with a private traffic warden.

Were you on private land? Thus the parking nob is employed by the gym and associates, and they can do something about the ticket. Or,

Was it a road or highway and one of the local council parking wardens? In which case i think your buggered on the ticket front, but, WTF has your tax disc got to do with them?

guest1
11-Nov-2005, 14:25
Originally posted by Redruth
First time I've ridden my new bike to the gymn. Was thinking 'how convenient', easy to get out of the garage, nip to the gymn with rucksack on back, park right outside, an hour and a half later, back out to the bike, some F****** B@RSTARD of a private parking warden has stuck a ticket on my bike. Now admittedly, it was the only bike there and I didn't see the big yellow sign recently erected by the owners of the land, some company in Watford, but since I've been going to that gymn ALL the bikes have parked on this bit of pavement. It's not a thoroughfare. It's a dead end road opposite some fencing, no obstruction whatsoever and I think £100 (£50 if I pay in 14 days) is a bit bloody excessive. The B@RSTARD also said my tax disc wasn't visible. Well, what kind of W@NKER doesn't know where to look for a tax disc on a bike? Clearly visible, brand new not even a speck of dirt on it.

Having just completed Advocacy Skills at college I'm sorely tempted not to pay this one and let them take me to court, at which point I shall argue disproportionality.
:flame::flame::flame:

Any comments/help here?

If it was a private parking warden, then it was on private land, then why would he be commenting upon the tax disc?

WRT the fine, sympathy where sympathy is due, so.....(emoticon for tumbleweed across the screen here)

Felix
11-Nov-2005, 14:32
Put that red dress back on. You seem so much happier in that. ;)

skidlids
11-Nov-2005, 14:37
Originally posted by Redruth
The B@RSTARD also said my tax disc wasn't visible. Well, what kind of W@NKER doesn't know where to look for a tax disc on a bike?


The kind that wouldn't dare bend over and check for fear of other victims sticking his tickets where they told him they would like to.

Redruth
11-Nov-2005, 14:55
Parking wardens, private or otherwise, are the scum of the earth. I really resent getting parking tickets on my bike. On my car, fair enough if I've parked illegaly (and I only ever do that unwittingly) but bikes are just NOT in the way of anything if they are considerately parked. I feel like all the land round here is owned by some huge faceless organisation that can afford to pay Tw@ts to give people like me fines that equate to a day's work, and that's on top of the £100 p.m. council tax I pay for F*** all services.

Right, think I'd better go back up the gymn for a 2nd session to get over this morning's trauma.

Felix, you're right. Unfortunately, there isn't another suitable occasion on the horizon for wearing that dress so looks like it'll be staying in the bag, along with my happy face. :sniff:

rxtim
11-Nov-2005, 15:06
Have a read of this!

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/garbagegate/archive5/penalty2.htm

Someone must know the legal implications.

Redruth
11-Nov-2005, 15:24
Originally posted by rxtim
Have a read of this!

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/garbagegate/archive5/penalty2.htm

Someone must know the legal implications.

Excellent, thanks for that. I think if it comes down to it I'll really test my advocacy skills and go represent myself in court. Might be an expensive lesson but I'd like to be a thorn in the side of this big corporation, if only for a brief moment before I get duly admonished. Then I'll plead poverty and an extended period over which to pay the fine. And if I win! I'll hire out my services to every other poor bugger who gets a private corporation parking ticket. I am sick of being Miss Compliant.

andyb
11-Nov-2005, 15:33
If he is privately employed then the gym must be contributing to the scheme!

:eureka:Somewhere to sound off?:eureka:

Redruth
11-Nov-2005, 15:40
I shall certainly look into that Andy, thanks.

Anyway, I'm over it already. Life's too short. Just started sorting out my Dad's book of condolence and he was not a man to get mad with anyone so ...

here endeth my rant.

andyb
11-Nov-2005, 15:43
Slightly off topic but, "lifes too short" That was brought home to me yet again, as my cousins Husband died this week! RIP

Wife and 4yr old daughter to continue the memory ..............................

philthy
11-Nov-2005, 15:52
By eck!

I'd hate to cross you!

:o:o:o:o

Redruth
11-Nov-2005, 16:00
Sorry to hear that sad news Andy. I hope the family cope with the difficult times ahead.

Philthy, see that you don't, is my advice :devil:

philthy
11-Nov-2005, 16:06
:P:burn:

Lurkio
11-Nov-2005, 17:26
Originally posted by Redruth
Originally posted by rxtim
Have a read of this!

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/garbagegate/archive5/penalty2.htm

Someone must know the legal implications.

Excellent, thanks for that. I think if it comes down to it I'll really test my advocacy skills and go represent myself in court. Might be an expensive lesson but I'd like to be a thorn in the side of this big corporation, if only for a brief moment before I get duly admonished. Then I'll plead poverty and an extended period over which to pay the fine. And if I win! I'll hire out my services to every other poor bugger who gets a private corporation parking ticket. I am sick of being Miss Compliant.

I doubt if they've used the road traffic act to give you a ticket, usually private parking fines are issued using either contractual law or trespass law. As it wasn't P&D parking it'll probably be trespass they're using. Your best defence in this one is the signs, if you can prove that the signs were such that it was unreasonable to expect you to see them then you should get away with it. Be warned though that just saying I didn't see them isn't good enough you have to prove you wouldn't have seen them even if you looked specifically for them so if they're obstructed or too small that'll work.
There's more to it than the simple pub lawyer stuff I've just said but that's the gist of it.

Redruth
11-Nov-2005, 18:13
Thanks Lurkio. I'll sneak up there this evening to surreptitiously remove the sign that was about 10 feet from my bike that I didn't spot then, and bob's me uncle.

All lawyers are simple pub lawyers, aren't they? I didn't know there was any other kind :devil::devil:

ericthered40
11-Nov-2005, 20:54
I was in trouble a wile back with a traffic warden.

In my car with the engine running waiting for my business partner to return to the car. I was on the phone to our office and this is out side a shop in Finchley.

First thing I saw was a ticket appear under my wiper which was still on intermittent at the time so it began to occasionally sweep across the screen. Anyway out I get to inquire as to what the F*ck he thinks he's doing and why he hadn't just told me to move on, it was a single yellow line at the end of a bay of metered spaces.

Now I must admit I did growl at him but he did smirk at me first.

Anyway he slipped over as he turned to run away and then got on his radio saying he was being assaulted. I shouted in to his radio that I hadn't assaulted him but I would if he didn't stop ****ing Lying.

:lol::D

Anyway one interview with the police later, all was well


:D

Scum can be cleaned away, Wardens are here to stay

;)

They must struggle to get a good nights sleep though a, To**ers
:flame:

philthy
11-Nov-2005, 22:57
Can't complain really if yer break the law. It's a bit like a burglar saying '' But I only broke in for a minute ''

I get a few tickets a year but I park on yellows for a few minutes every week to save time. The fines are worth paying for the time saved, smile & pay up.

Anyway he's probably got targets to meet just like everybody else.

( And no I'm not a traffic warden ) :D:D:D

YMFB
12-Nov-2005, 00:18
Id say you were on at best dodgy ground, if you have got better things to do with your time and most of us have, pay up and learn the lesson.

I got a ticket on Monday because I couldnt be arsed to move my wifes car, you hardly ever see wardens near us, but one was and he did us for waiting too long in the so called free car park.

Cheer up some scum could have nicked your new bike then you would have had something to gripe about.

Redruth
12-Nov-2005, 00:50
Some interesting feedback there. Prefer Eric's attitude to YMFB's though. Anyway, I've shut up about it. End of.

Just got in from a nice girlie night out with a good meal and some good chat. All's well with the world.



:D

ericthered40
12-Nov-2005, 03:23
I got a ticket on Monday because I couldnt be arsed to move my wifes car, you hardly ever see wardens near us, but one was and he did us for waiting too long in the so called free car park.


That's what I call a parking offence :lol:

Couldn't be arsed to move it

:lol:

ericthered40
12-Nov-2005, 03:37
Originally posted by philthy
Can't complain really if yer break the law. It's a bit like a burglar saying '' But I only broke in for a minute ''

I get a few tickets a year but I park on yellows for a few minutes every week to save time. The fines are worth paying for the time saved, smile & pay up.

Anyway he's probably got targets to meet just like everybody else.

( And no I'm not a traffic warden ) :D:D:D



Sounds like you got traffic warden tendencies to me.


This one must have started writing as i pulled up, walked up the road and slapped it on, no waiting time just like a vulture. :( not your normal traffic warden, I'm talking new breed :o

uncle porry
12-Nov-2005, 09:07
Originally posted by andyb
Slightly off topic but, "lifes too short" That was brought home to me yet again, as my cousins Husband died this week! RIP

Wife and 4yr old daughter to continue the memory ..............................

i lost a good friend a few weeks ago & my outlook on life has changed, i dont give a monkeys about trivial matters anymore, everyday is a gift, life is short and each day spent on a downer is a day you might as well not have had.