May buy a 749s, need advice

[soholush]

Hi Gang, got a few questions for you.

I'm in the market for a new bike and i have seen a 2003 749s for sale with loads of carbon extras inc termis for £5999. It has done less than 6500 miles, but and this is a BIG but, it has not had it's 2 year 20,000km service. It's done 4,500miles since it's 10,000km service 2years ago. It's being sold by a dealer who has had it since november. Should i avoid or buy - it looks like a good deal with all the extras, but i'm worried about the service history.

One other thing, how does this bike compare to a 748s in terms of handling? I had a go on a 748 a few years back and found it needed a lot of shove to turn in.

cheers

sl

[Carbon749]

Hi,

Check out this thread in the market place section.

FOR SALE - All Carbon 749s, very trick bike

A little more than you have said, but, 2,800 mile, full history and 1 owner with more carbon :D

[Edited on 10-1-2006 by Carbon749]

[soholush]

looks cool, but i'm not a fan of race reps and it's out of my budget.

the dealer for the one i'm looking at reckons it only needs the belts changing and a minor engine service that should come to £350.

[andyb]

"I had a go on a 748 a few years back and found it needed a lot of shove to turn in."

Its only a question of set up..........they are infinately adjustable..........:D

[andyb]

proper 2 year service............around £650! Is it at a ducati dealership?

[Harv748]

I can't comment on the 749 in terms of handling or if its a good price or not, but as far as the servicing goes, it will need one before it is ridden.

Use this as a factor when negotiating the price with the dealer. If it hasn't been serviced for 2 years, then it needs the belts changing for definate, and iof they are going to do that, they may as well do a full 24 month service on it.

At a main dealer this will be £500+, at an independednt it will be 10-20% cheaper.

I wouldn't buy it without a service having been done, or a price drop to allow you to have one done somewhere else.

[Carbon749]

Originally posted by soholush
looks cool, but i'm not a fan of race reps and it's out of my budget.

the dealer for the one i'm looking at reckons it only needs the belts changing and a minor engine service that should come to £350.

All decals can be removed leaving a polished carbon fibre bike. As for the budget it would work out about £1,250 more by the time you've bought and serviced yours, possibly closer if you have to pay £500 or £600 for the service... my bike has great history, 1 owner, lower mileage and will be worth more when you come to sell it, IMHO.

Can't blame me for trying.

[Edited on 10-1-2006 by Carbon749]

[soholush]

i asked about the service, they are not a ducati dealer and are selling it for a client, they say the 'low' price takes into account that the service has been missed.

it has carbon termi, hugger, belt covers, infills, heel guards, exhaust guard and and aero screen. I get all the standard bits too.

It's either this or the new Triumph 675.

[soholush]

going for the hard sell C749? ;)

[andyb]

2005 05 Reg DUCATI 749 BIP 749CC P & H Motorcycles 3,100 miles, Red. 4 Hours Free Advanced Rider Training, Balance of Manufacturers Warranty, Delivery anywhere in the UK, Ex Demonstrator, FINANCE AVAILABLE ON THIS BIKE, No Fault Legal . . . . (trade)
£6,995
84miles

just a quick search................................

[Ducnow]

Originally posted by Carbon749
Can't blame me for trying.


You could tell him the girl in the avatar will spend a weekend with him if he buys the bike :D

[andyb]

So if you found the customer............you could take around a grand of commission off!

[Harv748]

So they are saying the £6k asking price doesn't include a £350+ service...so you have to ask yourself and find out if a 2003 bike is worth that much?

I don't know, but I would have thought you could find better?

[Edited on 10-1-2006 by Harv748]

[Edited on 10-1-2006 by Harv748]

[andyb]

Dont forget the registration age may differ from the model year!

Then there is the warranty thing...........with respect the dealer selling the one your looking at is merely an advertising space...for which they will charge the seller. They are not ducati specialists, dont understand the complexities of ducati.....and theres no warranty.

[soholush]

the reg is a 52 and i get a 6 month warranty and erm.... not looking good to you guys then?

[Harv748]

Its not a case of not looking good...it just looks OK, and I think at the moment with people really really struggling to sell bikes privately, you should not buy from a dealer...and hunt around for a privare sale bargain, as they are out there to be had.

The fact that the dealer is selling it immediately adds 10% no matter what they say.

They are not a Ducati 'specialist' so what use is the warrenty to a degree, if anything goes wrong with it, it may take forever and a day for them to sort it.

I just think you could do better!

[andyb]

On Autotrader..........i know its the now defunkt fylde Superbikes, but they are advertisind a 0 miles brand new 749s in proper red, 05 model for £6999 that means 2 yrs warranty etc......NEW!

[andyb]

2005 DUCATI 749 S 749cc
2 Years Warranty, NEW BIKE, View at our showroom or order by phone, UK Spec, 04 model. THE CHEAPEST DUCATIS IN THE UK . £6,699.

KJM Superbike Ltd

theres another one....................

[soholush]

it was the extras that attracted me because i would certainly buy an open exhaust and they cost around a £1000 for termis don't they?

[andyb]

Originally posted by soholush
it was the extras that attracted me because i would certainly buy an open exhaust and they cost around a £1000 for termis don't they?

Id start with the yougest bike i could afford first........

Youll find all the time in the world for extras...........its an incurable bug!:devil:

[khu996]

I'd have to agree with Andy.

Look for the newest bike you can get for the money.

You'll always end up spending more on bling and accessories, its inevitable.

I wouldn't say that a 52 reg bike with 6500 miles for £6k is a good deal at all...shop around, and don't rush into the first bike that takes your fancy. With the ever decreasing number of new bikes being registered, I'm sure a friendly dealer will want to help you walk away with a brand new bike, and you could find a cheap way to finance the extra grand needed?

[ak47]

the 749s models, especially the earlier ones, do have issues with stalling. I this is one of those then you might want some kind of warranty.

[andyb]

Originally posted by ak47
the 749s models, especially the earlier ones, do have issues with stalling. I this is one of those then you might want some kind of warranty.

That said, it is easily sorted with a set up?

[ak47]

you think??? only talking from my personal experiences.

[mark749s]

and mine


mark

[andyb]

Originally posted by ak47
you think??? only talking from my personal experiences.

All 3 ducatis ive owned have threatened to do this......thats the beauty of a new bike though warranty and complain!

[itexuk]

Try this one 749S 05 Just over 4000 miles £6195
http://www.raceways.uk.com/

[itexuk]

Or this one
DUCATI 749, 05, 3500 miles,
One Owner, Full History, Casoli Pipes, Immaculate Condition. £6,250. ono. .
Telephone: 01803 211474 or 07790 220678
Distance: 50 miles
Price: £6,250 ono
You can find it on www.Autotrader.co.uk

[KeefyB]

There is always the DUK used bike search facility.
http://www.ducati-dealernet.co.uk/

[Twinfan]

The '03 749S has the non-hotted up motor i.e. the same as the current base 749 and 749 Dark. It won't have the stalling issues the later bikes have.

[soholush]

thanks for all the advice guys, i think i'll avoid it and look elsewhere.