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Dominic Clegg
10-Jan-2006, 20:47
been told by a few people now that putting a few holes in my air box lid will give me a few more bhp what everyone oppinion on this as to me it doent sound good
iv got a 600ss
Definately not!!!!!
It's HAMSTERS, not holes.
Good luck :eureka:
Dominic Clegg
10-Jan-2006, 20:51
Definately not!!!!!
It's HAMSTERS, not holes.
Good luck
????????????????????????
so thats a no then
couchcommando
10-Jan-2006, 20:52
You need a 'kit' airbox that has ram air scoops and has the carbs sitting inside, it's worth 4bhp over a normal airbox with the lid off which is what most run :)
Dominic Clegg
10-Jan-2006, 20:54
You need a 'kit' airbox that has ram air scoops and has the carbs sitting inside, it's worth 4bhp over a normal airbox with the lid off which is what most run
where do i get that from and how much (can you tell im from yorkshire)
Originally posted by Dominic Clegg
(can you tell im from yorkshire)
Ooooooh yeah!!
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
Originally posted by couchcommando
You need a 'kit' airbox that has ram air scoops and has the carbs sitting inside, it's worth 4bhp over a normal airbox with the lid off which is what most run :)
A big bore kit is easier and gives loads more. :eureka:
couchcommando
10-Jan-2006, 21:04
Originally posted by twpd
Originally posted by couchcommando
You need a 'kit' airbox that has ram air scoops and has the carbs sitting inside, it's worth 4bhp over a normal airbox with the lid off which is what most run :)
A big bore kit is easier and gives loads more. :eureka:
That's not legal tho ;)
Dominic Clegg
10-Jan-2006, 21:05
Quote:
Originally posted by couchcommando
You need a 'kit' airbox that has ram air scoops and has the carbs sitting inside, it's worth 4bhp over a normal airbox with the lid off which is what most run
A big bore kit is easier and gives loads more.
this is all new to me i want some more bhp at little cost and is easy to do how and were do i get these from can i just go ask ducati leeds?
butch890
10-Jan-2006, 21:06
i wouldn't bother with the airbox mods,you'l get more power from the new 3 peice cambelt kit.;)
Butch
Originally posted by Dominic Cleggthis is all new to me i want some more bhp at little cost and is easy to do how and were do i get these from can i just go ask ducati leeds?
Ducati Leeds are very nice people - they did me a gr8 deal on an 800. If you want more power fit an 800 motor and tell nobody. ;)
As it happens I have a spare one for sale....... :lol:
[Edited on 10-1-2006 by twpd]
Dominic Clegg
10-Jan-2006, 21:08
Quote:
Originally posted by Dominic Cleggthis is all new to me i want some more bhp at little cost and is easy to do how and were do i get these from can i just go ask ducati leeds?
Ducati Leeds are very nice people - they did me a gr8 deal on an 800. If you want more power fit and 800 motor and tell nobody.
As it happens I have a spare one for sale.......
dont think ill make many friends like that
couchcommando
10-Jan-2006, 21:09
An enclosed air box is def worth BHP but they are around £200, they take a lot of making :)
Dominic Clegg
10-Jan-2006, 21:09
Quote:
Originally posted by Dominic Cleggthis is all new to me i want some more bhp at little cost and is easy to do how and were do i get these from can i just go ask ducati leeds?
Ducati Leeds are very nice people - they did me a gr8 deal on an 800. If you want more power fit and 800 motor and tell nobody.
As it happens I have a spare one for sale.......
dont think ill make many friends like that
Originally posted by butch890
i wouldn't bother with the airbox mods,you'l get more power from the new 3 peice cambelt kit.;)
Butch
Yeah, I heard about those. Very rare, but awesome indeed!!
couchcommando
10-Jan-2006, 21:10
Originally posted by domski
Originally posted by butch890
i wouldn't bother with the airbox mods,you'l get more power from the new 3 peice cambelt kit.;)
Butch
Yeah, I heard about those. Very rare, but awesome indeed!!
Luckily a mate makes airboxes :)
Dominic Clegg
10-Jan-2006, 21:11
Quote:
Originally posted by butch890
i wouldn't bother with the airbox mods,you'l get more power from the new 3 peice cambelt kit.
Butch
Yeah, I heard about those. Very rare, but awesome indeed!!
any other new one on me!
antonye
10-Jan-2006, 21:12
Butch, did you run the aluminium spigot kit last year?
butch890
10-Jan-2006, 21:22
Originally posted by antonye
Butch, did you run the aluminium spigot kit last year?
We did try it ,worked well but unfortunatly it interfeered with the fly by wire clutch!
Butch
Zimbo16
10-Jan-2006, 21:24
Now now fellows, play nicely!! I met Dominic on Monday at Rugby doing the ACU course, he's a genuine guy putting a 600SS in for DD and is up in Leeds with no-one around to help him out with good advice on bike prep, he could do with a bit of sensible advice here!
[Edited on 10-1-2006 by Zimbo16]
Chris Wood
10-Jan-2006, 21:25
Is it me or has the world gone fffffiiiiiiinnnnngggggg mad!
.............or is it that northern hemisphere, stuck indoors with no sun for months on end, disease thing....
couchcommando
10-Jan-2006, 21:25
ere why have I been yorkied ? LOL
couchcommando
10-Jan-2006, 21:26
Dominic on a serious note I'm not a million miles from Leeds if you need any help :)
Originally posted by Chris Wood
Is it me or has the world gone fffffiiiiiiinnnnngggggg mad!
.............or is it that northern hemisphere, stuck indoors with no sun for months on end, disease thing....
24 bananas :eureka:
Everyone knows that ;)
couchcommando
10-Jan-2006, 21:28
Originally posted by domski
Originally posted by Chris Wood
Is it me or has the world gone fffffiiiiiiinnnnngggggg mad!
.............or is it that northern hemisphere, stuck indoors with no sun for months on end, disease thing....
24 bananas :eureka:
Everyone knows that ;)
My fence is only four foot high :)
butch890
10-Jan-2006, 21:29
20 past 2!
Butch
Dominic Clegg
10-Jan-2006, 21:30
hay guys thank could do with all the help i can get
Dom,
Try this guy.
Ducati John (http://www.ducati-john.co.uk/)
antonye
10-Jan-2006, 22:23
Originally posted by couchcommando
My fence is only four foot high :)
F8ck that made me laugh... :lol:
antonye
11-Jan-2006, 11:11
Dominic,
All you need to do is cut the top off your airbox, so it looks like this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8027869745
There's lots of stuff about doing this mod on here and Google if you search.
Hope this helps!
Originally posted by couchcommando
An enclosed air box is def worth BHP but they are around £200, they take a lot of making :)
Hmm, they work on 900's but I don't think you'll get much gain on a 600. The restriction on airflow volume is the valve size, not the induction system. Ram air has most effect at high speed = high rpm and the 583s struggle to make power above 8500 rpm, regardless of how much fuel/air you chuck at them.
But if I'm wrong, I'll be first in the queue for a custom airbox!
Paul
Shazaam!
11-Jan-2006, 17:49
It would be a mistake to assume that the airbox on every bike model is highly optimized for size and intake tract tuning. Airboxes are commonly used to simply reduce intake growl so that the intake-plus-exhaust environmental noise limits can be met. In such cases, cutting openings in the air box with the intention of increase air flow may or may not improve power and throttle response in the rpm midrange that you use on the street or the higher rpm range you use on the track. So you’ll need to do some design development of your own. Only a series of dyno runs will give you the answer.
http://ducatisportingclub.com/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=16846&page=#pid150818
Dom, if its any help - when we had the 620 in Snotty, she was running 'open' (no lid) Now running 583 again, better with lid on:)
Remeber also, no lid at somewhere like Brands, means: keep away from the gravel!:o - see pics of the Snot in the last pronto:lol:
antonye
11-Jan-2006, 18:35
Oi, I want a word about that ... I moved the engine last night a there was still gravel falling out of it !!!!
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