View Full Version : Cadwell changes 13/1/06
skidlids
14-Jan-2006, 01:00
Just came across this on the NG website
http://www.ngroadracing.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1985&highlight=
doesnt sound like their too happy with it kev
as ive never been to cadwell is it a good change or not ??
skidlids
15-Jan-2006, 23:06
At the end of the day its the same for everybody, we'll just havve to wait and see. At least Cadwell is a lot safer than it use to be.
kwikbitch
15-Jan-2006, 23:32
Don't like the idea of them "levelling" the hairpin. Most take that corner in a safe low gear possibly (I know it is for me) because of that feeling of instability as it slopes down. If its level then the comment about "feeling safe " to cut the corner and taking it at higher speeds is valid...could be some scary offs there! We'll see...
ericthered40
16-Jan-2006, 00:05
After my first visit to Cadwell it was Barn that put the wind up me.
Off camber, no runoff and you have to get round it well to get speed down the straight.
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kwikbitch
16-Jan-2006, 00:12
The woodland is the bit I love!...Hairpin, woodland then straight into barn...The smile factor is AWESOME! You just can't think about it because each bit is so fast...I think that the fact that it's off camber is the best part:D
phoenix n max
16-Jan-2006, 00:30
End of March should be interesting!
I have to go up to Louth on business soon-I will call into Cadwell and have a look. From the description is sounds to me like it's the trackside they have 'flattened' not the actual track. I think the clearing of the trees through hall bends made it more dangerous since now you can see through it 'looks' faster-same track though so same speed. The openess sort of leads you to overcook it going through-that's how it seemed to me anyway, don't like the sound of more armco either...........
John
phoenix n max
16-Jan-2006, 02:40
Originally posted by Monty
I think the clearing of the trees through hall bends made it more dangerous since now you can see through it 'looks' faster-same track though so same speed. The openess sort of leads you to overcook it going through-that's how it seemed to me anyway, don't like the sound of more armco either...........
John
I agree about the Armco business but we can't tell til someone sees it, i'm not sure i agree about the trees though. I saw it when the trees were there at Halls and I for one would not like to have raced there with those nor watched a partner/friend etc race there with those in either. To know that if you got it wrong you were likely to end up in the trees and miss one of them by luck rather than judgement must have been awful. At least Hall is safe-ish if you get it wrong there now you just slide into open grass rather than immovable trees :o
rockhopper
16-Jan-2006, 09:41
Armco might be safer for bikes. There is no risk of bits of the bike getting caught up in it like you get with tyres. I guess it depends on what angle you hit it at as well.
If you do pop in Monty,would you be able to take a few photo's?
I have raced and ridden at the "old" Cadwell, and whilst the section through Hall bends now looks more open, it is actually no faster than before. The really fast guys always ignored the tree's, banking etc etc anyway!
Will try to get up there later in the week and take a few pix if Monty can't manage them.
Chris Wood
16-Jan-2006, 15:16
Any help...
Cadwell changes to boost safety
MARCH 1, 2005: Lincolnshire's Cadwell Park race circuit is undergoing major work in several areas as owner MotorSport Vision presses on with an extensive programme of safety and facility improvements to the venue.
The work is designed to improve the picturesque and challenging circuit, nicknamed the 'mini-Nurburgring', for competitors and spectators alike.
At the dramatic Hall Bends, the ARMCO on the left-hand side of the track has been moved back from the side of the circuit and realigned to allow better visibility for both competitors and spectators.
Some much-needed drainage has also been added to this area and the run-off has been regraded.
At Coppice, work on building a new lorry tyre wall has begun now that the banking has been moved away from the circuit.
Meanwhile, major work is also being undertaken at the famous Mountain section of Cadwell Park. The first phase of this is now almost complete, with a tyre wall being replaced by an ARMCO barrier.
The second phase of the work will involve major earthworks to increase and improve the run-off area at the approach to the bottom of the Mountain from Mansfield. Here too, tyre walls will be replaced by ARMCO.
Medical centre upgrade
This project links in with work at the circuit's medical centre, where a helipad and car park is being constructed as well as the complete refurbishment of the medical facility. Work on this is expected to start on February 14 and should take around two weeks.
Meanwhile, Cadwell's maintenance team have been busily improving safety aspects of the Club circuits marshal posts.
MotorSport Vision Chief Executive Jonathan Palmer said: "We are very focussed on trying to reduce the costs of expensive damage to competitors' cars and motorbikes as well as minimising the risk of injury to competitors. The introduction of safety aspects such as these will make the circuit safer.
"Also, the work we are doing at the Hall bends will benefit everyone in another aspect, as both competitor and spectator will be afforded a much better view at that spot. The Hall bends are among the most exciting parts of Cadwell Park so this is an important development in making the circuit a better place to visit."
chris.p
18-Jan-2006, 19:57
Popped into Cadwell this pm, the only real change is that they have leveled the grasses area on the inside of the hairpin, not the track, if you remember there was a bit of a drop from the grass to the track after the apex of the corner, so if you cocked up going in you would take off and land on the track, now you just slide & scrub off speed before getting to the track, better vision of the track as you come down to it.
A lot of the tyre walls are being replaced by armco with bagged bales against them, I for one believe this to be safer than tyres as there is less chance of being catapoulted back onto the track in front of on coming bikes. As a marshall & racer (past tense) I have seen this happen, & what could have been a minor getoff turns into a nasty multi bike accident.
I have a picture on my phone of the hairpin mods but can not get it off:( the phone, .
Chris.:burn:
chris.p
30-Jan-2006, 08:19
Managed at last to get the pics off the phone, sorry about quality & size.
Chris:burn:
chris.p
30-Jan-2006, 08:19
The second
Chris.:burn:
dickieducati
30-Jan-2006, 10:12
makes it look much more 'open'. can see a few overcooking it!
Blimey, that changes the aspect a bit!
Seems like a good change to me. Mind you, I never noticed there were trees through the woodland section...:lol:
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