Dd 2014

[banger san]

Started stripping the little girl down today, a few mods to be made to improve fixings etc. engine refresh to see how she looks after running her on a skinny synthetic and first purchase of suspension upgades. :)

Hopefully get her built back up a little earlier than I did this year.

[mark 999]

Started stripping the little girl down today, a few mods to be made to improve fixings etc. engine refresh to see how she looks after running her on a skinny synthetic and first purchase of suspension upgades. :)

Hopefully get her built back up a little earlier than I did this year.

Same here, fella.

Lots of mods to get some weight off, gonna be a looooong winter !

[skidlids]

Started stripping the little girl down today, a few mods to be made --------------- first purchase of suspension upgades. :)


Let me guess, Ohlins shock for the rear and possible fork internal upgrades :)



Lots of mods to get some weight off, gonna be a looooong winter !

Dumping the Airbox and fitting a 916 tank possibly :)

So far my 2014 pre season prep has had more to do with emails and rule writing
But popped around Andy's (Banger San's) earlier today and borrowed his 2 into 1 conversion so I can see about getting one made for my 2014 bike

[coppersaucepipe]

Let me guess, Ohlins shock for the rear and possible fork internal upgrades :)




Dumping the Airbox and fitting a 916 tank possibly :)

So far my 2014 pre season prep has had more to do with emails and rule writing
But popped around Andy's (Banger San's) earlier today and borrowed his 2 into 1 conversion so I can see about getting one made for my 2014 bike
Would that fit mine?

[banger san]

Would that fit mine?

Steve if you are talking about the exhaust it should do, it mates up with the standard rear header and you just need to cut the front down pipe at the right point. Outlet wise mine is matched up to an early R6 Akraprovic but easily changed or could use a small link pipe.

How are you heeling?

[mat2hew]

I ain't doin' nuffingk.

(except fixing some broken bits)

[Chaz]

Not even clean the old shitter:)

[dunlop0_1]

Not even clean the old shitter:)


:lol: :lol: :lol:

[skidlids]

Would that fit mine?


Not sure it will Steve as your swingarm, suspension linkage, shock position and Rocker mount are all different and I think the rear header is slightly different.

[skidlids]

Speaking of Exhausts Dallas's 2014 DD bike is away having a custom exhaust system made, well a couple actually one in Inconel again and a spare in that cheaper titanium stuff. Then when it returns I have to get my hands on it to build a custom wiring loom.
His forks are already back complete with with new piston kits and Springs

The way he's going I think he would like to see a 145kg minimum bike weight for Class A :)

[mat2hew]

Not even clean the old shitter:)

I always make sure it's clean for the start of a new season..........

It usually needs a complete rebuild anyway... or a new bike...

[coppersaucepipe]

Not sure it will Steve as your swingarm, suspension linkage, shock position and Rocker mount are all different and I think the rear header is slightly different.

Cheers Kev. It be nice if the things that should be easy actually were.

How are you heeling?

I rode the wife's bike on Saturday, I can't find the throttle stop yet, and I'm still too weak on the brakes. Movement and strength are returning though, and hopefully they will improve further when the metal work comes out in November.

[Spjallen]

So are you racing next year?

[coppersaucepipe]

So are you racing next year?

Wife's already agreed to 4 races. ;)

[bally71]

Wife's already agreed to 4 races. ;)

4 .. sounds a bit like 6

[yendor]

4 .. sounds a bit like 6

Be a shame to miss the other 2!!!!!!!!!.

[Jonzi]

But that's only if he keeps his bedroom tidy and eat his greens.

[coppersaucepipe]

Be a shame to miss the other 2!!!!!!!!!.

I only managed 6 this year...

[Spjallen]

A good starting point. Great news

[skidlids]

I only managed 6 this year...

I bet your wife wishes you had stopped after you had done 5

[mat2hew]

my wife only agreed to 2 this year,,,,,,,, slowly I got permission for the rest.... :)

[skidlids]

my wife only agreed to 2 this year,,,,,,,, slowly I got permission for the rest.... :)

And then you Won

Awesome !!!

[coppersaucepipe]

Sooz had already conceded 2 meetings for next year before I told her I was owed 2 races from this year :-D

[milesaway]

never mind the misses- not sure i'm willing to drive over 750 miles for a wet weekend- maybe we'll have a summer holiday in august next year- 2 weeks in sun will be a lot cheaper!!

[skidlids]

never mind the misses- not sure i'm willing to drive over 750 miles for a wet weekend- maybe we'll have a summer holiday in august next year- 2 weeks in sun will be a lot cheaper!!

add a couple of hundred quid to what it will cost me and I could do one of those 4-day overseas trackdays

[milesaway]

add a couple of hundred quid to what it will cost me and I could do one of those 4-day overseas trackdays

think you wont need to add that much cash (£340 entry/practice+£200 fuel= £540= spanish trackday + cheap flight)

also wed eve load up- all day thu drive- fri/sat/sun track- all day mon drive- tue morn unload bike/load work tools= 3.5 days off work= over £400

really hope they do find the 9th round to drop 1

[mat2hew]

think you wont need to add that much cash (£340 entry/practice+£200 fuel= £540= spanish trackday + cheap flight)

also wed eve load up- all day thu drive- fri/sat/sun track- all day mon drive- tue morn unload bike/load work tools= 3.5 days off work= over £400

really hope they do find the 9th round to drop 1

gosh, you lot are a bunch of moaning grump old men...

I Really hope they find a 9th round,,, so I can do 9 rounds...

[dunlop0_1]

gosh, you lot are a bunch of moaning grump old men...

I Really hope they find a 9th round,,, so I can do 9 rounds...


Yep, I may even consider doing Knockhill myself (supercup). Got to be worth the trip to watch everyone not know where they are going :lol: , apart from Steve Mason that is. :D

[badgerpilot]

Got to be worth the trip to watch everyone not know where they are going :lol: , apart from Steve Mason that is. :D

Can do that at Croft too! :eek:

[Spjallen]

Knock hill is a brilliant idea and so is croft! Nice to go somewhere different that isnt the same old same old. Can we go to Scarbourgh and assen too?

[badgerpilot]

Taffys conquered and now sweaty socks to be invaded in 2014! We're a proper international series.

Let's go tear up the cheese eating surrender monkeys, clog hoppers, hairy armpit pasta puffs, goosesteppers, septic tanks, kanga bangas, bull dodgers and choccy munchers too! :devil:

Roots firmly planted in good old Blighty though!

[vespa]

What are you on Scott? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Spjallen]

I see that today the championship has increased to nine rounds with an option to drop a round.

[milesaway]

I see that today the championship has increased to nine rounds with an option to drop a round.

hee hee pembrey pembrey pembrey!!!!!

eee its grim up north but i dont have to go there anymore!

[mat2hew]

hee hee pembrey pembrey pembrey!!!!!

eee its grim up north but i dont have to go there anymore!

I can't wait,,, pembrey and knockhill... :) double yeah!

[skidlids]

I see that today the championship has increased to nine rounds with an option to drop a round.

Which DD rule book did you read that in

[Spjallen]

I didn't Kev. I read it in one of the recent hottrax FB posts. Is this not the case for us then?

[skidlids]

A short while back we changed the DD rules so that all rounds counted towards the Championship.
If we are to Alter the rule again why only be allowed to drop Knockhill or Pembrey, some may prefer to drop Anglesey or Brands depending on where they are located, or maybe some other round to fit around a family holiday or other reason

[milesaway]

A short while back we changed the DD rules so that all rounds counted towards the Championship.
If we are to Alter the rule again why only be allowed to drop Knockhill or Pembrey, some may prefer to drop Anglesey or Brands depending on where they are located, or maybe some other round to fit around a family holiday or other reason
that makes even more sense!!- I wondered why hottrax were making it a choice of only those 2- are the double points at croft only for their chamionships too?

[Spjallen]

Thanks Kev. That clarified it for me.

[skidlids]

that makes even more sense!!- I wondered why hottrax were making it a choice of only those 2- are the double points at croft only for their championships too?

Yes Miles as things currently Stand.

For many down South Croft is quite a distance and they may not bother going if the Top 3 in championships are already decided, putting a possible maximum of 200 points on the table at the final round may well keep some of the Championships undecided until the final round and attract more entrants

Personally I would like to do Croft even though its the last round, in October and in all likely hood my championship position will be of no consequence. But its a new circuit to me and should fit within my budget (although that may be dependent on me having a job beyond March)

[mat2hew]

My Mate Sam West tells me that the croft is a lovely circuit to ride, he said we'll love it there.

[badgerpilot]

My Mate Sam West tells me that the croft is a lovely circuit to ride, he said we'll love it there.

Chris Norris says the same! :)

Skids, as things stand now we're back into dropping rounds. Does that mean we drop a single full round or can we choose 3 races to drop from any rounds as per when we ran with New Era?

[skidlids]

Chris Norris says the same! :)

Skids, as things stand now we're back into dropping rounds. Does that mean we drop a single full round or can we choose 3 races to drop from any rounds as per when we ran with New Era?

A final decision has yet to be made and then its getting the wording sorted.

The current thinking is either drop one whole round or any three "Did Not Start (DNS) races".

For those that do enter every round they will drop any DNS's along with their lowest point scoring finishes.

It will NOT be possible to drop DNFs, encouraging riders to ride for a result.
But allows riders to pull back points if they have bike problems early in a meeting

[badgerpilot]

A final decision has yet to be made and then its getting the wording sorted.

The current thinking is either drop one whole round or any three "Did Not Start (DNS) races".

For those that do enter every round they will drop any DNS's along with their lowest point scoring finishes.

It will NOT be possible to drop DNFs, encouraging riders to ride for a result.
But allows riders to pull back points if they have bike problems early in a meeting

So hypothetically speaking, if you win every race apart from 3 crashes you still drop 75 points?

Apologies for getting a bit further ahead than needed at the mo.

[banger san]

So hypothetically speaking, if you win every race apart from 3 crashes you still drop 75 points?

Apologies for getting a bit further ahead than needed at the mo.

All races count "simples"

[skidlids]

I am so glad somebody else will have all this to deal with next year

[badgerpilot]

I am so glad somebody else will have all this to deal with next year

Was just a question, in no way a head peck fella. You and the rest of the RC do a top job.

Maybe after his brilliant mud-plugging organisation Miles would fancy the task if you've had enough?

Miles?....................

[mat2hew]

I am so glad somebody else will have all this to deal with next year

you givin it up Kev?

I thought we were sorted for life.

[skidlids]

you givin it up Kev?

I thought we were sorted for life.

Matt it was just over 12 months ago when I stepped down from the position and then it was decided that it would be an elected position for a term of 2 years. so towards the end of next season the position will become vacant and an election held.

I do get fed up of a lot of the selfish views that are often expressed at this time of year, many seem to have no idea about the original aims of DD and just want to change it into another race club class like all the others.

At present I am looking at requests from the Chief Technical officer to do something about our DD series oil issues, Anglesey, Brands, Cadwell and Pembrey this year, so 50% of events effected by oil

Also the securing of petrol tanks to reduce the likely hood of fuel spillage such as we had a delay for at Pembrey in August.

Also trying to secure a tyre deal for 2014

Putting together a 2014 Entrants spreadsheet

Updating the rule books for 2014 and Looking into how going to 9 rounds effects the rules and how to come up with alternative wording to the rule.

Thinking about the entry entitlement for Class B as at the moment its a restricted entry Class with no requirement to move on.

Yet it seems some would like to have prize money in the way of vouchers which seems a bit unfair to me on the newcomers coming into the class that would effectively be paying money to the more experienced racers finishing ahead of them. Then if the voucher system is done away next year you end up changing the rules again.

Always bearing in mind that Class B as it is now will soon die off if we don't attract New Novice racers to it each year. And the constantly rising costs don't help. Higher fuel costs, higher tyre prices, Higher entry fees from extra race and extra rounds, soon a £4k season becomes a £5 season and new racers start looking elsewhere

As far as I'm concerned DD isn't broken so why mess with it more than you have to.

[milesaway]

Yet it seems some would like to have prize money in the way of vouchers which seems a bit unfair to me on the newcomers coming into the class that would effectively be paying money to the more experienced racers finishing ahead of them. Then if the voucher system is done away next year you end up changing the rules again.

Always bearing in mind that Class B as it is now will soon die off if we don't attract New Novice racers to it each year. And the constantly rising costs don't help. Higher fuel costs, higher tyre prices, Higher entry fees from extra race and extra rounds, soon a £4k season becomes a £5 season and new racers start looking elsewhere

As far as I'm concerned DD isn't broken so why mess with it more than you have to.

I totally agree- why d'you need prize money- my first pot at about £7.5k seems well worth it and got there on ONLY 5 tyres from when i joined 2 seasons ago (and 2 of them are still good for next season)- nice and simple with closely matched cheap bikes makes good racing that even i can almost afford-

stick to yr guns kev- it's a philosophy that works- can't see class b dying anytime soon and it looks really promising for next year judging by the end of this season with a good core of guys with great attitude-

can't wait for next season and wouldn't change anything apart from maybe being sponsored!!

[badgerpilot]

100% in agreement with Miles there. If we were in it for the money we wouldn't be thrashing sub £2000, 15yr old bikes would we?

It's Class B or nothing for me, even an extra round next year could be a budget buster.

[Spjallen]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The whole concept of DD works for me on and off the track. The DSC committee make good educated decisions and don't seem overse to sensible ideas and requested as long as they go through the committee at the correct time.
I for one am happy with it.

[mat2hew]

maybe we should have a special letterbox for complaints and new suggestions,, I'm sure you could rig something up that would randomly electrocute every third one.

[Trumpet]

I totally support what Miles said....
I know I have only been here for one season, and I have little to compare against in terms of bike racing. But to me the management of DD racing is outstanding and I really could not agree more with the other posts...it really is not broke, in fact quite the opposite.
Having been involved in other sports and I do know that what the whole DD organisation does can seem like a very thankless task, but still they carry on working really hard to provide us with a fantastic series. I also know how much it means to be supported and appreciated, so to all the DD organisers...
THANK YOU!

Can't wait for next season already!

[coppersaucepipe]

100% in agreement with Miles there. If we were in it for the money we wouldn't be thrashing sub £2000, 15yr old bikes would we?

It's Class B or nothing for me, even an extra round next year could be a budget buster.

15 yr old?

my frame will be 20 next year!

I'm guessing we won't have a tyre deal and tyres in place before January so I'd better just get another set of Dunlops for Cartegena at the end of Jan.