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Fastfasulli
03-Feb-2006, 16:12
Hi,

I'm Bike #24 in the 583s this year. I am toying wih the idea of buying an oil cooler. They seem to cost about £380 new so I wondered whether anyone here either has one or knows where I might purchase one 2nd hand (i've run a number of breakers with zero success) and not costing £380;)

Cheers

Franco

Rattler
03-Feb-2006, 16:21
Seems pricey, I managed to pick on up for £80 or so and a few more quid for a fitting kit. There's no need to get a specific Ducati oil cooler, but the fitting kit maybe specific to the 583 (if they do one?????)
Tim

fil2
03-Feb-2006, 16:26
no rush ..u wont need it at Cadwell ..................:roll:

CK
03-Feb-2006, 16:27
you can fit them to the 583's, but easier to fit to the later ones.
Shouldnt be paying more than £150 absolute tops, much less is better tho.
Shouldnt need one till after the first 2 rounds tho, as long as you are running good qual oil in the engine
Will ask AK later about good source for you.

C:)

couchcommando
03-Feb-2006, 16:31
Go to any breakers that are local, on my GSXR I have one from a GSX550, a lot of the earlier air cooled bikes had one and there are plenty in breakers yards :)

NBs996
03-Feb-2006, 16:32
Don't be buying a new DP kit franco, it's way too pricey!
If you want something new then have a word with Baines Racing... they offered to make me a kit last year at a much more sensible price.

Or you could get a second hand oil rad of ye ol' faithful ebay and sort out your own bracket to hang it on. I've got some spare oil lines wot you can have v.v.cheap, then you'll need to buy the deflector for underneath the oil filter with I would think is only a couple of quid.

And Fil's right, you won't need one for cadwell, most likely not Brands either.

skidlids
03-Feb-2006, 16:35
http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=18489#pid169182

NBs996
03-Feb-2006, 16:35
Originally posted by NBs996

And Fil's right, you won't need one for cadwell, most likely not Brands either.

Must add... CK's right too!

AK
03-Feb-2006, 16:36
:smug:

couchcommando
03-Feb-2006, 16:46
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DUCATI-MONSTER-OIL-COOLER-UPGRADE-KIT-COMPLETE_W0QQitemZ8034541063QQcategoryZ10448QQrdZ1 QQcmdZViewItem

Also plenty of coolers around the £20 mark :)

psychlist
03-Feb-2006, 17:28
Oil cooler on a 583? By all means. I know several of the 620 guys found their oil temp getting a bit extreme at the high revving circuits like Snetterton, but if you set your gearing right you wont be over-reving too much and, if you're the sort of person that's changing oil after every round, then you'll probably be alright, just use a high quality oil. We got the Shell pack last year which made frequent oil changes more manageable on a very tight budget.

domski
03-Feb-2006, 23:54
Originally posted by fil2
no rush ..u wont need it at Cadwell ..................:roll:

You'll need an oil heater at Cadwell, brrrrr :lol:

Fastfasulli
04-Feb-2006, 01:13
Originally posted by domski
Originally posted by fil2
no rush ..u wont need it at Cadwell ..................:roll:

You'll need an oil heater at Cadwell, brrrrr :lol:


LoL. Very good.
Thanks for all of your responses. I think I might take the giving it a miss in the short term route to start with as some have quite rightly pointed out the first couple of rounds are not exactly in the south of spain. If I do end up needing one I will hunt around for "cheaper" alternatives.
CK - Thanks for yours and AKs time last weekend and the nice cup of tea. I would be grateful for the oil advice when you get a minute.

Thanks

FRanco

AK
04-Feb-2006, 09:35
Its always a pleasure Franco:cool:

will u2u you AK's mobile no.

C:)

Dominic Clegg
04-Feb-2006, 20:02
isnt the serise for air cooled bikes so are you alowed to do that. onece agin not sure so stop talking now

AK
04-Feb-2006, 20:06
Originally posted by Dominic Clegg
isnt the serise for air cooled bikes so are you alowed to do that. onece agin not sure so stop talking now

Dominic - take a look at rule 1.6.24 mate:)

Dominic Clegg
04-Feb-2006, 20:12
dont have that rule but rule 1.6 say has to be air cooled

Dominic Clegg
04-Feb-2006, 20:13
found the rule
sorry

Dominic Clegg
04-Feb-2006, 20:13
now confused

not got the money to fit one any way

AK
04-Feb-2006, 20:25
Originally posted by Dominic Clegg
now confused

No Probs - most are who use this board :lol:



not got the money to fit one any way

wont need one till Assen at earliest mate.

C:)

TP
04-Feb-2006, 20:30
I have to say after racing all year without one I think you should have one.

Once they get hot they lose power - mine ran stupidly hot all season! It's the only reason I didn't win the championship!























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