BEEN TO THE DYNO [Archive] - Ducati Sporting Club UK

Scooter916

22-Feb-2006, 17:07

Hi all.
Well finnaly Got the lil beastie on the dyno today. A few of you have PM`d and asked if the advancing of the cams were worth it.......The answer is yes and no.
We did 28 runs this morning to get the fueling spot on, which was still set up for the BB kit. With the kit we were getting 49bhp And todays best run on 583 cyls was 1 bhp more:sing:
The midrange is still very good but the bike is now reving and holding on to its power curve to a scary10500rpm:o:o
I was Cacking me pants at first but it seems very happy up there. Last year it dropped off the end of the world at 8500rpm.
So was it worth it ?? Dunno yet has to be the answer, I will have to ride it I suppose., Im happy with the result And i will be even happier if it lasts as season reving it to 10.5K....:lol: And if not Skids is bound to have a spare engine under the sink.
So in conclusion, If you have 52 bhp and i beat you Im having your engine, Second amendment to rule 36b, (wasting BHP):sing:
Will post giraff Later
Glyn

fil2

22-Feb-2006, 17:10

Originally posted by Scooter916

So in conclusion, If you have 52 bhp and i beat you Im having your engine, Second amendment to rule 36b, (wasting BHP):sing:
Will post giraff Later
Glyn

LOL.......

22-Feb-2006, 17:13

souns like its all systems go Glynn:D

Scooter916

22-Feb-2006, 17:15

Originally posted by AK and CK
souns like its all systems go Glynn:D

Yea its been too long:(
But getting closer:D

paynep

22-Feb-2006, 18:24

The midrange is still very good but the bike is now reving and holding on to its power curve to a scary10500rpm

Have you not bypassed the rev limiter, then?

:burn:

twpd

22-Feb-2006, 18:36

If you can hold onto power for longer even though you're not delivering any more then it means you have a measure of increased flexibility. An ability to rev longer can mean less gear changes and lower gearing for better acceleration.

As a matter of interest, seeing as power is a function of torque and engine speed, what is the torque compared to before?

twpd

22-Feb-2006, 18:39

Do 583's have rev limiters? I wish I could dispense with the limiter on my 800ss - that really is holding back the motor from producing more - as it is the limiter is brutal and kicks in bang on 8900 so, what I've managed to do is increase mid-range power and torque instead.

Scooter916

22-Feb-2006, 19:43

No limiter on mine:burn:
Well there is I think its when the rods stretch and hit the heads, but I aint got that far yet:lol:
Torque has remained pretty much as it was, i think my BB kit was set up by a muppet tho to be honest, As skids can confirm his 583 last year was pulling away from me down the caddy back straight, Which aint right.
Nige cant the powercomanders up the limiter?? or are they just fueling on your bike?
Im sure its possible Just finding out how isnt it.
glyn

Scooter916

22-Feb-2006, 19:45

Originally posted by paynep
The midrange is still very good but the bike is now reving and holding on to its power curve to a scary10500rpm

Have you not bypassed the rev limiter, then?

:burn:
Mate my ass was the limiter.... When it got to 5p diameter i shut the throttle.:lol:

[Edited on 22-2-2006 by Scooter916]

twpd

22-Feb-2006, 19:51

The PC is just doing the fuelling Scoots. An FIM Ultimap ECU is the answer of course but, as mentioned elsewhere here, it's not permitted under Minitwin rules. I'm looking forward to getting the PC though as with with the filter, pipes and the PC I'm expecting to break the 80bhp barrier.

Dominic Clegg

22-Feb-2006, 21:04

wow that revs hard my power drops off 9500 rpm but iv got 52BHP at the rear wheel. ill see you on the track

domski

22-Feb-2006, 21:12

Originally posted by Dominic Clegg
iv got 52BHP at the rear wheel. ill see you on the track

I'll have 63bhp... you won't be seeing me :lol:

22-Feb-2006, 21:30

Originally posted by Dominic Clegg
wow that revs hard my power drops off 9500 rpm but iv got 52BHP at the rear wheel. ill see you on the track

:lol:

I think we'll all be watching your results and times with interest young whippersnapper!

:lol:

22-Feb-2006, 21:40

Originally posted by domski
Originally posted by Dominic Clegg
iv got 52BHP at the rear wheel. ill see you on the track

I'll have 63bhp... you won't be seeing me :lol:

I bet he hopes not too:P

cos:

1. you aint planning on playing on a 620 in the 583 class - are you? :puzzled:
2. We have more than 63hp:lol: (just!:o )

C:D

Dominic Clegg

22-Feb-2006, 21:49

so how have you got the power to hang on to 10500 rpm

domski

22-Feb-2006, 21:50

Originally posted by AK and CK
Originally posted by domski
Originally posted by Dominic Clegg
iv got 52BHP at the rear wheel. ill see you on the track

I'll have 63bhp... you won't be seeing me :lol:

I bet he hopes not too:P

cos:

1. you aint planning on playing on a 620 in the 583 class - are you? :puzzled:

Where else am I supposed to race it? :devil:

2. We have more than 63hp:lol: (just!:o )

I'm only guessing. It could be 68 :o

domski

22-Feb-2006, 21:51

Originally posted by Dominic Clegg
so how have you got the power to hang on to 10500 rpm

He's obviously broke it :eureka:

Dominic Clegg

22-Feb-2006, 21:54

Originally posted by domski
Originally posted by Dominic Clegg
so how have you got the power to hang on to 10500 rpm

He's obviously broke it :eureka:

well if not it soon will be have to catch the ****tons when it goes

domski

22-Feb-2006, 21:57

Originally posted by Dominic Clegg
Originally posted by domski
Originally posted by Dominic Clegg
so how have you got the power to hang on to 10500 rpm

He's obviously broke it :eureka:

well if not it soon will be have to catch the ****tons when it goes

I know a song about that...

"Ali broke his engine at Brands Hatch,
Ali broke his biiiiiike at Brands Hatch,
Ali broke his bike at Brands Hatch,
Oh dear oh dear oh dear"

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

kye

22-Feb-2006, 22:26

Originally posted by Dominic Clegg
so how have you got the power to hang on to 10500 rpm

Advance the cam's with a 180 degree offset woodruff key :)

£15 each from JHP

Scooter916

22-Feb-2006, 23:01

Dom
Not Quite like Kye says , but yea By dialing in the cams to a figure easilly obtainable from the net. You may have 52 bhp but I would guess its all up the top end, Retarding the cams will give you a top end rush that makes you think the bike is quick, What if:eureka: you could have that punch throughout the entire rev range..
:saint::smug:

domski

22-Feb-2006, 23:04

Originally posted by Scooter916
What if you could have that punch throughout the entire rev range..

Then you'd not be on a 583 :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Scooter916

22-Feb-2006, 23:07

Originally posted by domski
Originally posted by Scooter916
What if you could have that punch throughout the entire rev range..

Then you'd not be on a 583 :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Oy geek this is a 583 discussion for 583 people, We`ll Have no 620s here, And dont touch the precious things....

domski

22-Feb-2006, 23:09

Originally posted by Scooter916
Originally posted by domski
Originally posted by Scooter916
What if you could have that punch throughout the entire rev range..

Then you'd not be on a 583 :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Oy geek this is a 583 discussion for 583 people, We`ll Have no 620s here, And dont touch the precious things....

That was harsh :sniff::sniff::sniff:

I bet that nasty Kirsty fella has signed in as Glyn by mishtake :o

Scooter916

22-Feb-2006, 23:13

Oops your gunna get it now, she is removing her laptop from its holster....:o

domski

22-Feb-2006, 23:14

:saint::saint::saint::saint::saint::saint::saint:: saint::saint::saint:

scooterbabe

22-Feb-2006, 23:28

nasty Kirsty fella signing in.
Dom I would never sign in as glyn.:P

domski

22-Feb-2006, 23:33

Originally posted by scooterbabe
nasty Kirsty fella signing in.
Dom I would never sign in as glyn.:P

Has he been telling on me again :smug:

How's my favorite scooterbabe today? :D

phil_h

22-Feb-2006, 23:47

Just shut up Dom - he was just going to tell us what he's done to the wee beastie when you distracted him :mad:

scooterbabe

22-Feb-2006, 23:47

scooterbabe is fine
thanks for being so niceas to ask.

Would like your opion,
thinking of sprying my monster dark a lovely girly colour PINK:bouncy:

phil_h

22-Feb-2006, 23:49

Originally posted by Scooter916
Dom
Not Quite like Kye says , but yea By dialing in the cams to a figure easilly obtainable from the net. You may have 52 bhp but I would guess its all up the top end, Retarding the cams will give you a top end rush that makes you think the bike is quick, What if:eureka: you could have that punch throughout the entire rev range..
:saint::smug:

Come on then, spill it all :roll:

Scooter916

22-Feb-2006, 23:51

I have no secrets, i will tell you all. Its quite simple really, you do have to remove the engine from the frame to do it and its a bit of a struggle but once the front cylinger is put on the back and vice versa the bike will run like a dream..........:frog:

skidlids

22-Feb-2006, 23:59

Well Glyn I will see if its a improvement on the 675 as my 583 is untouched from when I picked up the engine from the breakers apart from a couple of Oil and filter changes.
If you come sailing past me on Park Straight I'll be impressed :o

domski

23-Feb-2006, 00:00

Originally posted by scooterbabe
scooterbabe is fine
thanks for being so niceas to ask.

Would like your opion,
thinking of sprying my monster dark a lovely girly colour PINK:bouncy:

Pink is fanstatic darling, you'll be the new DD diva :lol:

I was gunna go on about big pink throbbing things between your legs, but I best not go there :o

;)

domski

23-Feb-2006, 00:01

Originally posted by skidlids
If you come sailing past me :o

I'm guessing that could be wholey possible at Cadwell in March!!

Wets anyone?? :lol:

Scooter916

23-Feb-2006, 00:02

Originally posted by skidlids
Well Glyn I will see if its a improvement on the 675 as my 583 is untouched from when I picked up the engine from the breakers apart from a couple of Oil and filter changes.
If you come sailing past me on Park Straight I'll be impressed :o

Great idea Kev, I never thought of fitting sails....wohooo off to garage with bed sheets........... Later:eureka:

ali

23-Feb-2006, 00:05

Originally posted by domski
I know a song about that...

"Ali broke his engine at Brands Hatch,
Ali broke his biiiiiike at Brands Hatch,
Ali broke his bike at Brands Hatch,
Oh dear oh dear oh dear"

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Me too:

"I broke my engine at Brands Hatch,
I broke my biiiiiike at Brands Hatch,
I broke my bike at Brands Hatch,
But when it was running I handed Dom his arse on a plate more times than I can remember"

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Sorry, that last line needs a bit of work!:lol:

scooterbabe

23-Feb-2006, 00:07

I was gunna go on about big pink throbbing things between your legs, but I best not go there

Big pink throbbing things are a girls best friend(not Diamonds),LOL:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Scooter916

23-Feb-2006, 00:08

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

domski

23-Feb-2006, 00:20

Has everyone been drinking? :lol::lol::lol:

domski

23-Feb-2006, 00:21

Originally posted by ali
Originally posted by domski
I know a song about that...

"Ali broke his engine at Brands Hatch,
Ali broke his biiiiiike at Brands Hatch,
Ali broke his bike at Brands Hatch,
Oh dear oh dear oh dear"

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Me too:

"I broke my engine at Brands Hatch,
I broke my biiiiiike at Brands Hatch,
I broke my bike at Brands Hatch,
But when it was running I handed Dom his arse on a plate more times than I can remember"

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Sorry, that last line needs a bit of work!:lol:

Ahem :(

...but I was abducted by aliens and the dog ate my homework ;)

fil2

23-Feb-2006, 11:29

Tonio600

23-Feb-2006, 11:45

Message original : domski
Originally posted by ali
Originally posted by domski
I know a song about that...

"Ali broke his engine at Brands Hatch,
Ali broke his biiiiiike at Brands Hatch,
Ali broke his bike at Brands Hatch,
Oh dear oh dear oh dear"

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Me too:

"I broke my engine at Brands Hatch,
I broke my biiiiiike at Brands Hatch,
I broke my bike at Brands Hatch,
But when it was running I handed Dom his arse on a plate more times than I can remember"

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Sorry, that last line needs a bit of work!:lol:

Ahem :(

...but I was abducted by aliens and the dog ate my homework ;)

yeah me too. :lol: