My 2014 bikes

[skidlids]

Following on from my time for a change thread
http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/showthread.php?t=208171

I'm going to make the most of the time over Xmas and get on with my two bikes and sort out a harness for Dallas's new DD bike, as well as rebuild a 620 engine that needed a replacement crank

Below firstly is a pic of where I was at with the #1 bike and the second pic is just about where I am with the #2 bike, although both bikes now have Exhaust headers and a 2 into 1 conversion

Hopefully by the new year they will have progressed some

[skidlids]

Started rebuilding the 620 engine today. Tomorrow morning will be spent shimming the gearbox and the crankshaft and then bolting both cases together before heading over to H-Cafe for lunch :)

[Iconic944ss]

Interesting Kev, what yokes are those in the No1 bike?

[skidlids]

Interesting Kev, what yokes are those in the No1 bike?

Monster ones just that the top yoke is upside down

[skidlids]

Tomorrow morning will be spent shimming the gearbox and the crankshaft and then bolting both cases together before heading over to H-Cafe for lunch :)

And that's exactly what happened, got the cases bolted together then headed over the cafe to meet up with Andy & Karen Claridge, Kev and Trudi Palmer and we were also joined by Steve Baden who was the only one of us foolish enough to be on his bike, then again his wrist hasn't been out of plaster that long following his crash at Pembrey (1st Visit) so good to see him riding again, just a shame the it really tipped it down just as we left H-Cafe

Few pics of the engine rebuild

[skidlids]

Bit more assembled

[skidlids]

Manuals Don't you just love them

Two pictures of Extracts from the 620 workshop manual

What inner spacer behind the Primary gear

Which is the smaller valve pocket in the top of the piston

[skidlids]

With the first 620 engine now only needing the Alternator cover fitting (need to get some more liquid gasket) I decided to strip a 583 bottom end I recently bought off Ebay. The cases need throwing as the rear engine mount is damaged beyond repair.
The Crank will go into another 583 engine I have where the Alternator came loose and damaged the end of the crank. The remainder will come in handy when I rebuild the ex James Thompson/Chris Woods 583 DD engine

Some bikes have expensive gasket sets required for a rebuild but not our DD bikes so helps keep the costs of a rebuild down

[bally71]

Monster ones just that the top yoke is upside down

why turn it upside down?

[skidlids]

why turn it upside down?

Clipon positioning, unlike the one on your supersport the Monster yoke is stepped leaving little room to place the clipons below the yoke

How you getting on with fitting the 916 tank to the SS frame, I was hoping to have seen some photos by now

[bally71]

canned the idea .. too difficult

I'm doing the same as you now and building a fresh bike from a monster frame

916 tank will go on that

Will run my old bike with a fresh engine till it's sorted

[bally71]

How much modifying can you do to the sub frame?

Was reading through the regs this aft .. and I take it as as long as I used steel I can remodel the back end how I like

as long at It measured 35 cm

and I take the sub frame as anything past the last structural point

[bally71]

Can you not just use the yoke from an ss on the monster?

[skidlids]

Can you not just use the yoke from an ss on the monster?

Different stems

[skidlids]

How much modifying can you do to the sub frame?

Was reading through the regs this aft .. and I take it as as long as I used steel I can remodel the back end how I like

as long at It measured 35 cm

and I take the sub frame as anything past the last structural point

Not quite
The subframe needs to remain standard up to 35 centremeters from the reference point, beyond that it can be modified and incorporates a bar of some form across the back between the two frame rails

[skidlids]

Slow Progress as I'm spending more time in Qatar than the UK of late and when I have been back I've spent more time either working on engines or Dallas's DD bike than my own, as I always have the option of using last years bike at Brands

[skidlids]

Still need to sort the footrests, Bellypan, Seat Pad and swap the forks and shock

[bally71]

Exhaust looks sweet Kev ... was thinking of a GP style one myself

[skidlids]

Less than a week and I can continue my 2014 prep :)

[skidlids]

Less than a week and I can continue my 2014 prep :)

Almost 3 weeks on and nothing has changed on my 2014 projects

So today I have finished off getting the old DD bike ready for Brands and the Van is now MOT'd and Taxed

Still a couple of weeks to try and get one of the Monsters ready for the Brands Test day

[milesaway]

Almost 3 weeks on and nothing has changed on my 2014 projects

price you pay for swanning off to the dessert while we all hiding in sheds from a monsoon

[skidlids]

Progress at last

New Chain sliders/guides, New Chain and New Case Guard fitted
Small Allen bolt behind the front sprocket lockwired

Forks swapped from ST2 adjustable ones to 750 Supersport ones containing Mupo Cartridges

Bars now fitted above the yokes

Still quite a bit to do such as fitting a Reg/Rec, Tacho, Seat Pad, along with sorting out the gear change, bellypan, battery retainer and the fairing mount that the Brake Mastercylinder fouls on soon as you add a bit of left lock

[milesaway]

not much time left now kev!
think i've done all i can to mine for now and serviced my van ready- will i be able to weigh mine at brands before we start to check i haven't taken too much weight off it? (my attempts with bathroom scales not to be trusted!)

[skidlids]

not much time left now kev!


Luckily for me last years bike is ready to go

will i be able to weigh mine at brands before we start to check i haven't taken too much weight off it?

I'm Not sure what weighing Scales will be available at Brands if any

[skidlids]

Still quite a bit to do such as fitting a Reg/Rec, Tacho, Seat Pad, along with sorting out the gear change, bellypan, battery retainer and the fairing mount that the Brake Mastercylinder fouls on soon as you add a bit of left lock

All the above now sorted, so nearly ready for its maiden outing on the Brands Test day.

Just waiting for the seat foam to arrive the only things left to do are oil and filter change, then lockwire everything up. Then make some spacers and brackets and get the Bellypan fitted.

[Iconic944ss]

Forks swapped from ST2 adjustable ones to 750 Supersport ones containing Mupo Cartridges

Blimey... Nearly a Grand!

(But cheaper than Ohlins cartridges ;) )

[skidlids]

Blimey... Nearly a Grand!

(But cheaper than Ohlins cartridges ;) )

Less than half of that Frank
Dallas bought them for the 2012 Desmo Due season and at the first round at Brands he had to remove them as they just didn't work, he returned them to Go Racing Developments where he got them and they handed them back a few weeks later saying they should work now.

So at Snetterton he tried them again, after one session they were back out of the bike.

I did him a deal against some other bits and then whipped them out of the ST forks they were in and put them in a set of Longer Supersport ones as they had been trying to extend the ST forks to far.

Hopefully I will get to see if they are now working on Friday, but have no info on oil grade or air gap. So will probably need some set up time but so long as they don't stick like they did to Dallas,

I will know I'm going in the right direction, he came in from the session at Snetterton with over 2 inches of travel not used. So I want to see my cable tie less than an inch from the bottom casting after a session and I'll be happy

[skidlids]

Hopefully I will get to see if they are now working on Friday, but have no info on oil grade or air gap. So will probably need some set up time but so long as they don't stick like they did to Dallas,
I will know I'm going in the right direction, he came in from the session at Snetterton with over 2 inches of travel not used. So I want to see my cable tie less than an inch from the bottom casting after a session and I'll be happy


well I can't say Brands went to plan as the new bike just didn't want to run right and by the time I had cleaned the fuel pump and changed the fuel filter to get it running properly there were only a couple of sessions left in the day to get out on it.
I used the first of those sessions to Scrub new tyres on the race bike and then went up to pit lane for the final session to try out the new bike. Only to have the final session canceled due to an incident on track where a couple of bikes came together and then deposited Antifreeze on to the track.

Still even just riding it up to the pit lane and back and a couple of times around the lower paddock I gathered some info on things that need sorting

Firstly the seat is to low, so I will be adding an extra layer of foam.
The standard allen bolts for the footrest plates catch on my boots so they will be replaced with domed headed bolts.

The clutch needs looking at and possibly replacing as there is a lot of drag and a nice lurch forward every time I put it in gear.

So tomorrow I will start looking at addressing these issues

[skidlids]

The standard allen bolts for the footrest plates catch on my boots so they will be replaced with domed headed bolts.

The clutch needs looking at and possibly replacing as there is a lot of drag and a nice lurch forward every time I put it in gear.


Right that's the Allen bolts changed and hopefully the Clutch is now sorted

[badgerpilot]

Only to have the final session canceled due to an incident on track where a couple of bikes came together and then deposited Antifreeze on to the track.


D1ckheads, Bernie the scrute was complaining about this when I took the poorly Badger to him after our tumble.

Could this have a bearing on why 3 of us had the same crash at the same part of the track within 5 seconds of each other and all 3 offs totally separate?

[skidlids]

Doubt it unless all three crashed coming down from Druids to Graeme Hill as I believe thats where the Anti Freeze incident took place.

[banger san]

Doubt it unless all three crashed coming down from Druids to Graeme Hill as I believe thats where the Anti Freeze incident took place.
Different day I thought?

[skidlids]

Different day I thought?
Would have to be a different day as I was referring to the last session of the practice day and Badger is that good he doesn't do the practice days :p

[badgerpilot]

Would have to be a different day as I was referring to the last session of the practice day and Badger is that good he doesn't do the practice days :p


Pahahahahaaaaa, that'll be why I got 26 points instead of 75!

If it wasn't antifreeze it must've been stupidity or lack of vision, those hailstones hide themselves well.

[chris.p]

it must've been stupidity or lack of vision, those hailstones hide themselves well.


Badgers see better at night, close your eyes next time ;)


Chris :burn:

[badgerpilot]

Sensible badgers don't run round race tracks with 30 motorbikes though. :o