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skidlids
27-Mar-2006, 20:50
This is aimed at the DD Novices especially those that have just had their first race meeting.
By now you will have had a chance to think about how well you got on and maybe asking why you didn't do as well as you thought you should have.
You may have tried a few diffent bike setings at Cadwell, some may have worked some may not have.
Well I have been talking it over with a couple of others and will be talking to a few more experienced racing hands with a view to holding something a kin to a classroom debriefing session at Brands on Saturday evening around 7:30pm, I'm sure a few of the newcomers will have some questions they would like answered.
I'm not saying we are going to tell you how to race its more a general thing about dismissing some preconceived ideas that may be wrong and pointing you in the right direction.
What I would like to see from this is closer racing, where the gap between first and last is smaller as this offers advantages to all.
Kev
#88
Just checked with Andy J, Kev - he is happy to join you.
I'll bring my box to collect all the spares which went out this w/end;):lol:
Rattler
27-Mar-2006, 20:55
Great idea Kev, where do I sign up?
skidlids
27-Mar-2006, 21:10
Originally posted by Rattler
Great idea Kev, where do I sign up?
You cheeky *****
Just ask your team mate for a few pointers
Rattler
27-Mar-2006, 21:18
Originally posted by skidlids
Originally posted by Rattler
Great idea Kev, where do I sign up?
You cheeky *****
Just ask your team mate for a few pointers
I tried that, but he just fcuked off!!!! ;)
Dominic Clegg
27-Mar-2006, 23:41
thats just what it needs closer racing
im in
the old man
28-Mar-2006, 00:54
happy to have my brain picked
skidlids
28-Mar-2006, 01:45
good on yea Ian, you certainly have your bike setup well and know how to get the best from it, i'm sure there will be a few wanting to know what works for you, me included.
I'm willing to learn from my elders, just a warning I'm a cheeky **** in classrooms though :lol:
Originally posted by kye
I'm willing to learn from my elders, just a warning I'm a cheeky <b>[Censored]</b> in classrooms though :lol:
That's OK, we'll get CK to to deal with any naughty boys :o:o:o
weeksy2
28-Mar-2006, 09:00
Skids,
Could you ask WJB and someone like Andy Ibbot (or one of his boys) to do a little too ?
I wonder if we have any amatuer psychologists in the clib who'd run a 'mind racing' type class....
Wasn't Whele into that sort of thing ?
That's all we need, a grid full of cocky novices who all think they can kick Rossi's arse after a head doctor session :lol:
Originally posted by domski
Originally posted by kye
I'm willing to learn from my elders, just a warning I'm a cheeky <b>[Censored]</b> in classrooms though :lol:
That's OK, we'll get CK to to deal with any naughty boys :o:o:o
:o:o
:devil::ninja:
Originally posted by Dominic Clegg
thats just what it needs closer racing
im in
then rider faster......................;)
can i join u lot skids......i got plenty to learn as im still a novice........
Is this planned for the night before BH race.?
[Edited on 28-3-2006 by fil2]
skidlids
28-Mar-2006, 10:10
You sure can Phil, if the likes of Ian, Andy and possibly Geoff come along I'm sure they can enlighten a few of us, but I'm sure there are those out there who will be interested in how you get a 583 (or a 675 for that matter) around a track so fast.
antonye
28-Mar-2006, 10:35
Surely we can get Tony "Xaus" Perrin in the mixer as well for a bit of a lecture - just keep it to racing and not crashing techniques though, eh TP? ;)
Originally posted by antonye
Surely we can get Tony "Xaus" Perrin in the mixer as well for a bit of a lecture - just keep it to racing and not crashing techniques though, eh TP? ;)
be a short lecture then...........:P
couchcommando
28-Mar-2006, 13:11
What sort of advice are you thinking of giving ?
if we want closer races then we all need to ride faster simple as that ;) ;)
If we want safer racing then I don't think it's the novices putting the hard moves on :)
From what I saw out there it was much like any other club race, the sporting in DSC didn't mean much ;) ;)
skidlids
28-Mar-2006, 13:34
Don't think I mentioned the word advice and yes I agree WJB and Andy Ibbot have a wealth of knowledge they could pass on.
But this is more of an informal thing where those just starting out can possibly learn from those that have been doing it for a year or more. Where riders that were really disapointed in there first race meeting can possibly find out some of the reasons things aren't going so well for them.
A few of us were at this point last year and some were getting in some valuable testing during March and April. This year the season has started earlier with the newcomers having less chance to test and could be missing out on some basic setup knowledge, in class B race 1 there was approximately 20secs difference across the field, in Race 2 that grew to almost 40 secs, maybe these riders at the back are interested in finding out why there is that difference and can they possibly do anything to reduce the gap
couchcommando
28-Mar-2006, 13:59
Well if there are any tips going on getting the best from these bikes i'll have some so I'll be there to listen !
Rattler
28-Mar-2006, 14:12
Originally posted by skidlids
Don't think I mentioned the word advice and yes I agree WJB and Andy Ibbot have a wealth of knowledge they could pass on.
But this is more of an informal thing where those just starting out can possibly learn from those that have been doing it for a year or more. Where riders that were really disapointed in there first race meeting can possibly find out some of the reasons things aren't going so well for them.
A few of us were at this point last year and some were getting in some valuable testing during March and April. This year the season has started earlier with the newcomers having less chance to test and could be missing out on some basic setup knowledge, in class B race 1 there was approximately 20secs difference across the field, in Race 2 that grew to almost 40 secs, maybe these riders at the back are interested in finding out why there is that difference and can they possibly do anything to reduce the gap
Kev - nice one - its a great idea, let me know if I can help? Make tea? ;)
Tim
Originally posted by Rattler
let me know if I can help? Make tea? ;)
Tim
2 lumps please :lol:
psychlist
28-Mar-2006, 14:33
Originally posted by Rattler
Originally posted by skidlids
Don't think I mentioned the word advice and yes I agree WJB and Andy Ibbot have a wealth of knowledge they could pass on.
But this is more of an informal thing where those just starting out can possibly learn from those that have been doing it for a year or more. Where riders that were really disapointed in there first race meeting can possibly find out some of the reasons things aren't going so well for them.
A few of us were at this point last year and some were getting in some valuable testing during March and April. This year the season has started earlier with the newcomers having less chance to test and could be missing out on some basic setup knowledge, in class B race 1 there was approximately 20secs difference across the field, in Race 2 that grew to almost 40 secs, maybe these riders at the back are interested in finding out why there is that difference and can they possibly do anything to reduce the gap
Kev - nice one - its a great idea, let me know if I can help? Make tea? ;)
Tim
I'll fetch some sticky buns so I can listen in too :smug:
antonye
28-Mar-2006, 14:33
Originally posted by domski
2 lumps please :lol:
That can be arranged...
*thwack*
*thwack*
:D
Originally posted by antonye
Originally posted by domski
2 lumps please :lol:
That can be arranged...
*thwack*
*thwack*
:D
On the subject of pain... Have you noticed that I'm getting closer and closer to you with these dodgy overtakes... 3rd time lucky :lol:
skidlids
28-Mar-2006, 14:58
lets face it all those that raced last year should have something to contribute, with the DD bikes we all started with a blank bit of paper.
My first line said buy a 600SS
followed by fit race bodywork, Fit Diablos, Race can, K&N filter and Dynojet kit. Sort some sprockets (not sure of sizes need to do some testing)
Other things that I found I had to sort were
suspension
Bar position
Footpeg position
Brakes
Dyno run (to understand power band, what there is of it)
I'm happy to talk to anybody about my thoughts on these things, along with other things like my attitude towards going racing and some of the things I think about when lining up on the grid or during the actual race and its nice to see a few others are also willing to share their experiences to do with racing in DD.
as we keep saying its our series and we will get out of it what we put in
So we will give it a go at Brands the evening before race day and see what comes from it.
Chris Wood
28-Mar-2006, 16:07
Hey Kev,
Not sure if I can make it but would be happy to contribute my thoughts and experiences to date.
I do a lot a lot of personal and business 'coaching' at work to improve performance etc. I have applied them to my racing and it has paid dividends to date. Sunday was only my 6th proper DD race and a change in 'mental attitude' has allowed me to try and compete with the flying banana!:burn:
AK said he would be happy to natter about anything mechanical if anyone has any questions.... but wont answer the one from me - as to how many spares he actually carries:lol:
Dominic Clegg
28-Mar-2006, 21:59
Originally posted by CK
Originally posted by domski
Originally posted by kye
I'm willing to learn from my elders, just a warning I'm a cheeky <b>[Censored]</b> in classrooms though :lol:
That's OK, we'll get CK to to deal with any naughty boys :o:o:o
:o:o
:devil::ninja:
i know all about that when we were watching her boys racing in the second race
sorry Dominic:( - didnt mean to do it - honestly! :lol: - I just get 'involved'
- and we only have one in each race, dont get carried away now!
C:)
ps: are the bruises going down?:saint:
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