View Full Version : Fitting Termi's and an open clutch cover........
Nick Pavey
16-Apr-2006, 21:11
to a 2006 749.
I have them both already and was going to get them put on at the first service,but am finding that i cant wait to hear the growl (300 miles in).
Is it a hard job fitting the Termi's,for someone whose mechanical experience stretches as far as fitting a new tail piece and side panels to a Monster,but who is willing to try? The thing is if i wait and let the dealership fit them at the service,i have to drive them down 80 miles,then drive the bike down again,then back in the car to pick up the standard bits.
I have the Termi end piece,ecu,and a long pipe,so does the pipe bit mean i have a full system? Also i heard once they are fitted they need to be set up properly,so could i fit them and ride with them not 'set up',and then let the dealer do the tweaking? I wont be causing any damage?
The clutch cover,is it just a question of off with the old one,and on with the new? Nothing i need to know? As its a dry clutch,im guessing no oil pours out once the cover is off?
Thanks gents.
Twinfan
16-Apr-2006, 21:22
Clutch cover is easy. Just unbolt, replace and torque. If you've got a Ducati clutch cover the instructions in the pack cover everything. Make sure you've got a torque wrench for the bolts and you're sorted. If you haven't already, get some new springs and end caps. The original springs rust so you want some stainless ones, and get some anodised end caps while you're at it.
Dseered has just fitted a Termi system, so give him a shout re. fitting. I had mine done by my dealer.
Carbon749
16-Apr-2006, 21:32
Easy enough to fit the pipe and end can, only basic tools needed and simple logic.
As for the ecu .... sorry no idea how easy or what is involved.
You mentioned an 80 mile drive to pick up the standard parts after your dealer has swapped them over .... may be cheaper to ask your dealer to box them up and send them to you via a courier or similar.
Nick Pavey
16-Apr-2006, 21:45
Probably will,although i still have to get the Termi's down there. Guess one car journey is enough.
How about this 'setting up' business. You think it could wait till the service?
The Big Red One
16-Apr-2006, 23:13
Fit the pipe yourself. Just have a slower drive to the dealers to have the service and the ecu set up.
Nick Pavey
16-Apr-2006, 23:45
You think i should leave it a while? Only got 300 miles on the clock at the mo,service at 600/1000k.
And can i fit the pipe and end can and leave the ecu as the standard one,for the dealer to do?
Originally posted by Nick Pavey
You think i should leave it a while? Only got 300 miles on the clock at the mo,service at 600/1000k.
And can i fit the pipe and end can and leave the ecu as the standard one,for the dealer to do?
Nah,fit it whenever.My 999S had its system fitted from brand new.:D
Sounds like you have the assymetric system and not the full 2-1-2 jobbie.Fairly straight forward to fit,....jusy dont expect to fit it in 5 minutes.If you are not confident swirling the spanners,allow half a day.
The ecu is a bitch of a thing to change,..its down there under the battery,..and there are a few bits to remove to gain access.I would leave the fitting of the ecu to the dealer,...he can then set it up at the same time.Chances are the air/fuel mixture will be weekened,so dont thrash the bike untill its fitted.
Nick Pavey
17-Apr-2006, 21:38
Thanks to everybody for thier help. Did the clutch cover this morning with no trouble,felt a little brave and went for the Termi's after lunch. Took 2 ish hrs i would say,start to finish.
Hardest bit i think was remembering what bolt went where when it came to putting it all back together.
Didn't fit the ecu (thanks for the help there Keefy),had a look and couldn't even see the battery! Does this mean i am running lean now then? And does that mean i have less horses than a set up system,but more than standard? Or less than standard?!!
The termi system i have has 'for race use only' on the underside,so i'm guessing it's not road legal? Are all termi's like that,or have i got a super loud system?
Thanks once again gents,as you can see i'm a bit of a bike newb. Who'se for a cold one?
Nick Pavey
17-Apr-2006, 21:53
Have sort of a communal courtyard area that i did the fitting in so the wife banned me from starting it like that,but i was very tempted!
How's it sound?
DSR - you got termi?!?!?!
I'm saving up for clutch cover so it'd be interesting to see a blow by blow account of how you did it - by all accounts-easy peasy
[Edited on 17-4-2006 by guest1]
Nick Pavey
17-Apr-2006, 22:03
Originally posted by guest1
DSR - you got termi?!?!?!
I'm saving up for clutch cover so it'd be interesting to see a blow by blow account of how you did it - by all accounts-easy peasy
[Edited on 17-4-2006 by guest1]
I did it mate so i would say go for it when u get them. On a scale of 1-10 i would say about a 4 for hardness (ooer!). Just a lot of bolts to put back but it's all fairly logical.
Nick - before you follow ANY of DSR's advice, search for "oops - I think I broke my clutch" or words to that effect.
Nick Pavey
17-Apr-2006, 22:12
What's the next mod i should do you think gentlemen? Probably sort that number plate bracket out?
Could try an R-Send bracket - but they have a tendency to disperse your plate whilst you're not looking - or you could try modifying your original hangar and turn it upside down and trim it a bit.
Nick Pavey
17-Apr-2006, 22:23
Found THIS (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DUCATI-749-999-Tail-tidy-number-plate-bracket_W0QQitemZ8057000011QQcategoryZ10448QQtcZph otoQQcmdZViewItem).
Looks pretty good. Is R-Send an online shop?
Originally posted by Nick Pavey
Found THIS (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DUCATI-749-999-Tail-tidy-number-plate-bracket_W0QQitemZ8057000011QQcategoryZ10448QQtcZph otoQQcmdZViewItem).
Looks pretty good. Is R-Send an online shop?
Its not an Rsend but it does the same job.The Rsend is the same product as the Casoli and Evuluzione tail tidies.I may have one going cheap.;)
Ive got one of the DP carbon jobbies on mine.:D
Nick Pavey
18-Apr-2006, 22:07
Balls.
Just went through the Termi box and realised i missed off the rubber ring where the pipe meets the end can. Reckon it's 100% needed? Probably.
Also the air filters! Where do these go? Bike is down at the old mans so can't look at the mo.
Nick Pavey
18-Apr-2006, 22:29
Only noticed today on the standard pipe the black rubber ring stuck around the end that goes into the end can,then looked in the Termi box and found the new one,to go on the Termi pipe. Guess it gives a better fit,and reduces vibration at the join,to a certain extent.
Any idea on the air filters? Did you get two with yours?
Cheers
Ducati now do a nice carbon arse end tidy up bit.....that rsend is just a bent bit of metal...........
Nick Pavey
18-Apr-2006, 22:33
Had a look on the website last night but couldn't see it. You got a link please mate?
Nick Pavey
18-Apr-2006, 22:41
Thanks mate. That's reassuring. Guess i'll leave them off too. Bit worried about the 'ring/gasket' thingy though.
Went for a 3 hr blast today,with the Termi's on. What a noise eh?
Nick Pavey
18-Apr-2006, 22:54
Not thought of that. I feel some fun coming on! Managed 2 on the Monster,but the Termi's should double my record.
Originally posted by andyb
Ducati now do a nice carbon arse end tidy up bit.....that rsend is just a bent bit of metal...........
Yep,it looks like this;
Twinfan
19-Apr-2006, 08:48
Nice - how much is one of those???
I think full price is about £110.I got a bit of discount on mine.;):smug:
Originally posted by KeefyB
I think full price is about £110.I got a bit of discount on mine.;):smug:
Yer just a tart fer a bit of carbon aincha ;)
Originally posted by Jools
Originally posted by KeefyB
I think full price is about £110.I got a bit of discount on mine.;):smug:
Yer just a tart fer a bit of carbon aincha ;)
Yes.
(Hangs head in shame.)
:D
Nick Pavey
19-Apr-2006, 15:40
Still can't find it on Ducati.com. Was it from them direct or a dealership?
Twinfan
19-Apr-2006, 16:06
Should be able to order from any Ducati dealer.
Anyone know where you can get one for less than £100??
DP part no.is 96971303B.
Available from any official dealer,..mine came from Italia Moto.
BTW,DSC members get discount at JHP.;)
megalite
20-Apr-2006, 20:21
Originally posted by Dseered
Nick, please tell me, that 'just for a laugh' you started in this state like I did and made your ears bleed !
http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/1164/p10100031tl.jpg
That was a bit of a mad thing to do. I wonder how the loudness would compare to an F1 car going past in Regent Street, London couple of years ago. At first I braved it out with no ear plugs, once it floored past me a huge wave hit my ears, ouch!
adrian.groves
22-Apr-2006, 18:57
If you can fit the exhaust, you should be able to change the ecu. I can send pic's if you want help tracking it down, as mine is stripped down at the moment.
It is behind the battery on the left hand side of the engine, almost underneath. You'll need to remove the the left hand fairing, the battery, then slacken the bolts holding the battery box. The ecu is held on to the box by 2 bolts.
Nick Pavey
22-Apr-2006, 20:31
That would be great mate if you could send the pix.
Save me a few bob at the next service if i manage it myself.
Ill u2u u my email.
Nick
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