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[zaker]

Does anyone know if pc plod are out in force this bank holiday picking on bikers again ?

They were easter bank holiday, pulling every biker for a routine check, exhausts, small plates etc in Matlock Bath.

[Chief R.B.]

Would not suprise me... they normally do this at the start of the season to keep everyone on their toes...bugger it...:ninja:



Ant

[deej]

yeah, they came along to our local easter egg run and took down all the small number plates in the nake of safety then ignored the guy who had metal showing through his rear tyre but still took his small plate details, money raising or what, theres absoultely on intention safety or awareness in these clampdowns :flame::flame::flame:

[andyb]

:sniff: yawn.....:yawn:

does any one know if the dangerous tsspot riders are out this weekend to spoil it for the rest of us?

[antonye]

Originally posted by andyb
does any one know if the dangerous tsspot riders are out this weekend to spoil it for the rest of us?

Dunno mate, you got any shifts? :D

[andyb]

Originally posted by antonye
Originally posted by andyb
does any one know if the dangerous tsspot riders are out this weekend to spoil it for the rest of us?

Dunno mate, you got any shifts? :D

No unfortunately.........got to have 4 days off.......:(;)

[deej]

from a coppers point of view then andy where is the safety awareness in taking soemones number plate and not pointing out how dangerous hisbold illegal life threatening tyre was. this guy isnt a mate of mine we just happened to park up next to him, he was about 55 ona triumph 955i and he knew better but wanted to do his bit for charity, he didnt have a ridicilousy small plate, he'd only cut the dealers name off the bottom as he wasnt happy with the customer service from them



p.s yes we are out this weekend :bouncy::bouncy::bouncy:

[BDG]

On the theme of 'smaller' number plates Andy, do you know if its an old wife's tale that if you're number plate is only 6 rather than 7 digits, as long as the number size and number spacing is legal can the plate be slightly less than standard 9 x 7.

Or is this complete boll ocks?

[philthy]

WHY oh WHY do bikers have this MASSIVE thing about small plates?

And then WHINGE when the police stop them?

It's a bit like walking up to the biggest scumbag in a pub and calling him a w****r and complaining afterwards because you've no teeth left.

Everybody knows where the police will congregate so why don't you go somewhere else?

Mind you, on second thoughts you carry on and then I can enjoy my ride in peace on the roads I've found simply by looking for the twistiest roads on a map.

My God I'm getting old......I'll be buying a b*w next:lol::lol:

[deej]

good point phil but would you expect 2 coppers to turn up at the start of a charity run quoting "safety and awareness " issues and then not deal with the safety issues right under their fat noses. i dont have a small plate so im not whinging about it but i am complaining about the ******** these two fat TAX men were talking about when there was far more serious safety matters they should have been looking at, all they were interested in was £30 please sir

did the guy doing a wheelie up the estate were we met get done NO
did the guy doing a burnout get done NO
did the guy who turned up with practically no silencer get done NO
did the guy who cut off the logo off the dealer he didnt like get done YES YES YES

please explain which is the worst offence or why they all werent done ???

[andyb]

Originally posted by deej
good point phil but would you expect 2 coppers to turn up at the start of a charity run quoting "safety and awareness " issues and then not deal with the safety issues right under their fat noses. i dont have a small plate so im not whinging about it but i am complaining about the ******** these two fat TAX men were talking about when there was far more serious safety matters they should have been looking at, all they were interested in was £30 please sir

did the guy doing a wheelie up the estate were we met get done NO
did the guy doing a burnout get done NO
did the guy who turned up with practically no silencer get done NO
did the guy who cut off the logo off the dealer he didnt like get done YES YES YES

please explain which is the worst offence or why they all werent done ???

I think there is only one talking bollox here...............We all know the rules, and probably more pertenant, the interpretation of the rules..........go beyond that and you put yourself on offer quite frankly!

How do you know these others wernt investigated? perhaps they couldnt identify the bloke doing the wheelie as he had an illegal number plate on...............good job he didnt kill one of our loved ones.................!:D

[Edited on 29-4-2006 by andyb]

[zaker]

Someone i know got pulled up for speeding last year, ( radar gun) the copper had a few words with him, then let him off.............................
why you mite ask ?..........pretty obvious really.......he was a copper himself !!! just produced his action man badge.

[MARTIN H]

In this last week on the roads I do most of my riding on there has been 3 bike fatalities that I know of. With this kind of thing going on you really cannot expect the police to not be out in force. They have to do something or at least be seen to be doing something. The area of Devils Bridge, Settle, Hawes etc is full of bikes at the weekend and some of the behaviour from a good proportion of these bikers is dodgy to say the least.

Recently at weekends I have had groups of bikes overtaking me through 30 and 40 limits with their noisy cans blaring away etc. Also almost had a bloke on a Mille R hit me head on, in fact if I had not slowed to half the speed I normally do that bit of road on to let a friend catch up I would not be writing this now. I am fortunate in that working for myself I can get out pretty much when I want during the week and this is what I have been doing. I come across people I know on my mid week runs out that I would never see at the weekend as they just will not venture out when the idiots are on the road.

I agree that doing people for small plates etc is hardly a safety issue in the same way people with race cans on are not any more dangerous. But what can you expect the police to do? They must get a fair few complaints from the residents on many biking routes about the noise and anti social riding from many of the bikers during the summer months. Also the police are in the unenviable position of having to attend the scenes of fatalities and such.

I have been done myself in the past for small plates and termis etc and had to take it on the chin because its the law. However I was almost arrested one time as I was getting a ticket for the termis as a couple of nights earlier I had disturbed two intruders in my house and chased them away (I was well prepared lets just leave it at that!) The police took an hour to come and phoned back for directions twice! I only live less than a mile from the police station. I argued with the 5! police men stopping bikes for small plates etc about where were you when I had 2 men breaking into my house etc etc and was warned I would be arrested if I continued in such a manner. Not good public relations?

Except for the termis on the 996r I keep both my bikes as standard as possible these days as I can do without any unwanted attention.

[ariel]

I don't have a lot of sympathy with those of us who choose to ride bikes fitted with small number plates. Having said that I believe the police are more pedantic in their treatment of bikers than motorists.
Let me give you an example. Count up how many motorists with personalised number plates alter the spacing between digits and letters to such an extent that you can't see what the real registration identity is. 5's are often changed to S and sometimes the spacing is so wide the plate makes you think the vehicle was registered in Holland!
Now I believe this is a far greater bending of the rules than a small plate on a bike but the Police either don't seem to notice or choose to ignore this offence.
The DVLA warn personalised Reg. owners that if they mess about with the spacing etc. the personalised number will be consficated.

[Chief R.B.]

Originally posted by andyb
Originally posted by deej
good point phil but would you expect 2 coppers to turn up at the start of a charity run quoting "safety and awareness " issues and then not deal with the safety issues right under their fat noses. i dont have a small plate so im not whinging about it but i am complaining about the ******** these two fat TAX men were talking about when there was far more serious safety matters they should have been looking at, all they were interested in was £30 please sir

did the guy doing a wheelie up the estate were we met get done NO
did the guy doing a burnout get done NO
did the guy who turned up with practically no silencer get done NO
did the guy who cut off the logo off the dealer he didnt like get done YES YES YES

please explain which is the worst offence or why they all werent done ???

I think there is only one talking bollox here...............We all know the rules, and probably more pertenant, the interpretation of the rules..........go beyond that and you put yourself on offer quite frankly!

How do you know these others wernt investigated? perhaps they couldnt identify the bloke doing the wheelie as he had an illegal number plate on...............good job he didnt kill one of our loved ones.................!:D

[Edited on 29-4-2006 by andyb]


Perhaps this is where the problem is. The police have these stupid targets to achieve and it seems to be all in the name of money these days, instead of going out and catching the people that pull wheelies or do handbrake turns in crowded areas and at some point end up hurting someone and people who drive without tax/insurance, end up knocking a child down and then can't be traced..that must be so frustrating for the officers investigating and awful for the families who can't get justice for losing a loved one.


Im all for a bit of stunt work but there is a time and a place, theres to much emphasis on loud cans/small plates because joe public complains about it (its like moving to a village near an airport and then asking them to keep the noise down coz they can't hear the telly) instead of doing the right thing and locking up aholes that think they can get away with murder coz theres no one to stop them, which consequently makes life harder for the rest of us.

I don't mind the police being out on a weekend as long as they pull people for something serious..the government and the police authorities have they're priorities all wrong.

:mad::flame:

There are a lot of things in this world that i love to look at or listen to, a luscious sounding bike is one of them, its one of the reasons why i ride a bike and one of the things that reminds me im alive.:bouncy:

Ant

[Edited on 29-4-2006 by Chief R.B.]

[deej]

I don't mind the police being out on a weekend as long as they pull people for something serious..the government and the police authorities have they're priorities all wrong.

THATS THE POINT IM TRYING TO MAKE !!!

i dont have a small plate so im not whinging about it just saying why i have no respect for the people talking bollox about small plates being a safety issue whens its all down to fines and targets. if it was safety why didnt the guy get done for his tyre, andy i know he didnt as he was parked next to me, he found it amusing but sad at the same time, he would have understood a ticket for the tyre but not his plate :(:(

" I have been done myself in the past for small plates and termis etc and had to take it on the chin because its the law. However I was almost arrested one time as I was getting a ticket for the termis as a couple of nights earlier I had disturbed two intruders in my house and chased them away (I was well prepared lets just leave it at that!) The police took an hour to come and phoned back for directions twice! I only live less than a mile from the police station. I argued with the 5! police men stopping bikes for small plates etc about where were you when I had 2 men breaking into my house etc etc and was warned I would be arrested if I continued in such a manner. Not good public relations? "

another fine example of the great police force we have to rely on. my bike got stolen a few years ago,i reported it then 3 weeks later someone turned upto take the details. makes it worth while paying my taxes :(

[philthy]

I probably was talking bo*****s ( I have a standard to keep up you know ) but not in the context of a safety issue. I suppose one reason people fit small plates ( Other than to look good ) is so there is less likelyhood of a witness being able to get the registration number when the rider is in hooligan mode.

That's probably where the police come from. BUT as ariel said, why don't the police stop the car owners with truly blatant alterations to their plates. That has become one of my pet hates. I'm sometimes tempted to photograph the plates and send the photo to the DVLA as some are almost unrecognisable. God, how sad is that?:lol::lol:

[MARTIN H]

I forgot to mention that when I was having my details taken by the police for the Termis a whole gaggle of TVRs Caterham etc came through the same village (must have been an owners club run out) and it was LOUD! I remember having to pause my conversation with the police for a couple of minutes till they passed. Did they pull a single car to check over? What do you think!

[Carbon749]

Originally posted by zaker
Does anyone know if pc plod are out in force this bank holiday picking on bikers again ?

They were easter bank holiday, pulling every biker for a routine check, exhausts, small plates etc in Matlock Bath.

Quite possibly. Stay off the A6 and head in to Matlock then on to Matlock bath ... just watch the speed camera between the 2.

I've found it best to head in to Matlock via A615 ... Wessington / Tansley etc. Not many police along this route and not many places they can set up a spot check pull in area.

[andyb]

I know youve caught me..............but i want to come up with some cock and bull story to get away with it!...........and in any case, instead of getting me, why dont you go and get them instead!!!:lol::lol::lol::pig:

[deej]

:D:D:D at leats its all in good humour andy

how do you stand on it as a biker and not a policeman :puzzled::puzzled:

[MARTIN H]

Not really the case with me mate. Copper asks if cans have bs stamp, dont think so says I, are they road legal? he asks, dont know I say he then writes out the ticket. I know there are not legal so its a fair cop etc. As for the TVRs etc that came by sounding as if armageddon was upon us I only needed to raise an eybrow to the officer to make my point.

I certainly have not got it in for the police, its a difficult job etc etc. But it does wind Joe public up a bit to see 5 coppers pulling every bike up when short of a murder being commited you cannot get the police to attend to other crimes.

A couple of weeks ago during a torrential downpour I saw a man sprinting past my house carrying a massive sack which looked very dodgy to me. As my house is of the beaten track I watched where he went which was the woods at the bottom of my garden. I went to look over the fence at the bottom of my land and just the other side of it he was sorting through the bag of clothes and household items and for some reason stuffing items down his trousers! Seemed dodgy to me all he needed was swag written on the bag to make it more apparent that it was stolen property. I walked back up the garden and called the police and was told they would get someone out. Went back and watched him through a small hole in the fence for about 20 minutes and then as I was getting wet I walked back up to the house for my coat. On arriving back to observe the man I looked over the fence and he turned round but I ducked down but he must have had a glimpse of me as he legged it still carrying the large bag. Still no sign of the police (am 1 mile from the station) I went back up to house and took the car round to the other side of the woods but could not see the bloke. The police never turned up at all. Not the first incident like it and wont be the last. A year ago a saw a couple of lads hanging round very late at night where I live. Its very dark and quiet down here at night as its a dead end lane to my house. After a while I sneaked up to where these lads were now hiding behind my wall and asked them waht they were up to. They give me a cock and bull story about having broken down and walked off over the fields. I waited a while and then followed them only to witness them breaking into a empty house. I called the police and waited and waited and waited. Nothing! by now I was only 1/4 of a mile from my local police station. Eventually after about 30 minutes I went round the back of the house and they were by the back door with various items piled up to take with them. Fortunatley they legged it over a fence and were gone. I rephoned the police and waited another 30 minutes and gave up and went home.

3am the other morning there was 2 lads stealing stone from a new build near to my house. You know what I didnt even phone the police. Just went home and went to bed.

[deej]

martin your too damn good, you should apply to be a special at your local station

[Mello-Yellow]

Originally posted by andyb
I know youve caught me..............but i want to come up with some <b>****</b> and bull story to get away with it!...........and in any case, instead of getting me, why dont you go and get them instead!!!:lol::lol::lol::pig:


nice comment mate.

[MARTIN H]

I would but I'm unsure whether the place is operational or not.

Doesnt seem to be much sign of life down there!

[andyb]

Originally posted by deej
:D:D:D at leats its all in good humour andy

how do you stand on it as a biker and not a policeman :puzzled::puzzled:

or even as a police biker!....................

With the number plate thing i say theres the law, theres acceptable and then there taking the pi**! Do the 3rd your gunna get a ticket i would suggest!

On cans, you have to look at it a bit further than just cop out to get biker. I know there aqre several places around the country where bikes meet..........can you image living near by? Having this every wednesday or whatever........
There are more people to try to please than just the bikers!

[deej]

true but ive never seen a car with a wholesale sized baked bean can for a exhaust get stopped :D:D:D

i know the laws the law but theres ways around policing it, i guess everyones got a different idea of whats right and wrong

[aka.eric]

Selective policing springs to mind,summers day spent stopping bikes and handing out tickets in the name of road safety,much better than chasing round catching criminals,risking being hurt,having to claim compensation if you see anything nasty.The law might be the law,but clever lawyers know that theres a difference between the law and police prodedure,ask a premiership footballer.Difficult to be positive about policing nowadays,if your unfortunate enough to need them,you know they wont be there,well not for several days anyway,busy attending other calls,probably bikes with small plates.

[Rushjob]

Sorry but this is getting boring... can someone at least come up with a new variation on this whinge???
We all know the rules, if we choose to flout them we pay for it.
Endex!

[psychlist]

We all know the rules about number plates, exhausts, speeding etc. you know if you're breaking them so why whinge about getting caught!?!
Also, if your bike gets stolen and it can't be "recognised" by Mr Vigilant Police Officer on Patrol or on the National database from a roadside camera because the number plate is too small then it's less likely to be returned to you :P

[crm250]

Ah here we go small plates again.
I cant see the problem, its not as if the ducati looks dreadfull with a full size plate (or do many bikes in fact) and they hardly slow us down, so i really dont think its worth the hassle. at the end of the day the law states we must have a plate a certain size, fair enough. we have gotten away with it for years and years in the past and now unless you have a barn door fitted to the back expect to get your collar felt.
The black visor law is just stupid and i think the majority of police would agree and only a few jobsworths would bother anyone for a visor (esp if you keep a clear with you incase you are out later than expected etc etc)
Ducati's also seem to get away with far more in terms or pipes too, IMO there is nothing more invading that the sound of a IL4 wailing down a race can at speed, ducati's are often just as noisy with the std systems but far less obtrusive and offensive.
Anyway back to the plate thing, i have gone to the other extreme, on the little YSR80 gag bike i went for a larger than legal plate - about 4 inches larger actually just to take the ****, its not often you can hear anyone say that they got thier plate down is it ? not only does the bike look comical on the road with a 5'11 rider who weighs a healthy 15 stone, but a massive plate bigger than the bike really makes the bike look smaller and even the local police can see the funny side.
Northwales police have a bad rap, most are actually ok and live in the real world and are carrying out that divvys instructions under duress, however look at it from thier point of view, weekends are full of bikers from all over getting creamed on thier roads, making too much noise upsetting people and sheep and pushing up the accident stats, so something has to be done.
Avoid the usual IL4 brigade routes (aften not the best roads anyway) and you will have no problems.

Anyway back to the plates, i blame suzuki esp the srad era, as the owners almost have tail tidys and small plates and loud cans as std, as it attempts to mask the seriously ugly arse end. that is the john prescot of bikes IMO

[Edited on 30-4-2006 by crm250]

[raykay748R]

We all know the rules, we all know the rules blah, blah, blah!!
That's not what we're discussing here though is it. It is selective policing and the fact that certain police chiefs and certain police forces within this country, deliberately choose that their priority will not be ensuring the safety and security of the general public, it'll be to make a quick bust (and a fast buck) by harrassing, because that's what it is, a section of the motoring public that choose to use a particular form of transport as their leisure interest.
How do they do this, by pretending that noisy exhausts and undersize number plates deserve more police attention than your house being burgled or your children being mugged of their mobile phone.
Their obviously is a section of the biking fraternity that are a nuisance to themselves and others, but this doesn't justify the masses of police presence and their sometimes heavy handed and over zealous approach to "public safety".
Until policing in this country is 'seen' to be effective and fair, by concentrating on issues that are really at the forefront of the general publics concerns such as street crime, violent crime and drug abuse etc, then the authorities in charge have only themselves to blame for the very low esteem that the police are now held in.

[raykay748R]

Originally posted by psychlist
Also, if your bike gets stolen and it can't be "recognised" by Mr Vigilant Police Officer on Patrol
When was the last time anyone saw one of those!!

[Real McCoy]

On the subject of noisy cans and bikes, when was the last time you saw a Harley pulled for loud exhausts, them mothers run straight thru pipes .But go on any Harley site and youll see no bitchin about getting pulled.

Double standards or the fact Harleys ride at 20 mph everywhere :puzzled:

[andyb]

Originally posted by Real McCoy
On the subject of noisy cans and bikes, when was the last time you saw a Harley pulled for loud exhausts, them mothers run straight thru pipes .But go on any Harley site and youll see no bitchin about getting pulled.

Double standards or the fact Harleys ride at 20 mph everywhere :puzzled:

perhaps ther s no bitch's?:D

[duc daz]

when i had my gixxer 1000 last year i had an inline plate .on my way back from stratford upon avon i was pulled over the copper gave me a telling off and sent me on my way but never fined me .There are some decent coppers out there.and before you all ask i did change the plate:P

[andyb]

Most of whats been said here is shite............i, and i would know, do not know of any selective policing, to do with number plates, dark visors, or exhausts!

I dont know of anyone ever being done, or anyone doing any one for these offences!

FWIW, i caught a burglar in a stolen car today!..........and i was off duty!:pig::sing:

[Real McCoy]

Did you stop him for a dodgy plate :lol:


Only joking well done mate, i got stopped yesterday for a small plate on my moto by plod on a dr 350, the bloke said ill not do you today its too sunny, top bloke and we had a good chat...nice one :D

[raykay748R]

Originally posted by andyb
Most of whats been said here is shite............i, and i would know, do not know of any selective policing, to do with number plates, dark visors, or exhausts!

I dont know of anyone ever being done, or anyone doing any one for these offences!


You've got to be kidding me, then we're all making it up then!!
Boxhill, Alton station, Lords Derby, all meets where I've personally seen police pulling and doing people for the above. A friend was pulled on easter sunday in the ****ing rain on the M3 for a major 'public safety' infringement (small plate), the copper forced him into the hard shoulder, and then almost got runover by a passing truck as he got out of the car, what an example to set.
I do appreciate that it's your job and that you're probably very proud of it, but burying your head in the sand doesn't mean that there isn't a problem with policing today and that politics plays a large part of it that problem. I too work for a civil service (albeit slightly less public) but would welcome some one coming into my branch and sorting out the wheat from the chaff.

[andyb]

Originally posted by raykay748R
Originally posted by andyb
Most of whats been said here is shite............i, and i would know, do not know of any selective policing, to do with number plates, dark visors, or exhausts!

I dont know of anyone ever being done, or anyone doing any one for these offences!


You've got to be kidding me, then we're all making it up then!!
Boxhill, Alton station, Lords Derby, all meets where I've personally seen police pulling and doing people for the above. A friend was pulled on easter sunday in the ****ing rain on the M3 for a major 'public safety' infringement (small plate), the copper forced him into the hard shoulder, and then almost got runover by a passing truck as he got out of the car, what an example to set.
I do appreciate that it's your job and that you're probably very proud of it, but burying your head in the sand doesn't mean that there isn't a problem with policing today and that politics plays a large part of it that problem. I too work for a civil service (albeit slightly less public) but would welcome some one coming into my branch and sorting out the wheat from the chaff.

Which civil service do you work for?:puzzled:

[deej]

On the subject of noisy cans and bikes, when was the last time you saw a Harley pulled for loud exhausts, them mothers run straight thru pipes .But go on any Harley site and youll see no bitchin about getting pulled.

was going to make this point myself after coming back from the paignton bike weekend y'day, every harley had a small plate but no police attention apart from the admiring glances at the chrome and custom paintjobs.

i'll give them a bit of credit as all the police were doing yesterday was bikesafe rideouts but i think thats the difference between a police biker and a policeman jobsworth in a big patrol car.

i think its police incosistency that winds the public up more than anything else

[Ains.]

Emotive subject init?
No doubt I’ll get shot down in flames for this missive but, from a personal point of view I don’t really have any rub with the law. Yeah, you’ll get the ********, but don’t you in any walk of life. Usually the young ‘un out of Police college and wants to make a name for his/her self. The one who’s just got their grade drivers licence and is about to trunce anyone they meet.
Or generally having a bad day, coz the boss has had a go; having to do a bank holiday in banging hot weather and would be rather with his mates doing what you are, having a laugh; bit jealous of the 20 grand 999r you’ve got and they haven’t. It’s all human stuff.

4 run in’s with the law I’ve had on the road.

1. Stopped for noisy zorst on a CB250K4 by bike cop. Bit noisy that lad. Dunno officer first bike and I don’t know what they’re supposed to sound like. Well, I used to have one of these. ¾ hour later still there.
2. Late for work, Kat 1000, wrong side of 125 on the M2, had to slow down for a metro that deliberately pulled out in front of me. Next thing I know two Police BMW bikes appear. Pull in son. Do you know how fast you were going? Good progress? Well we couldn’t catch you. Anyway, your chains loose, there a producer at Cold Harbour nick, sort the chain before it comes off and kills you. And, lay off the speed too, you want to get to work in one bit don’t you? Yup, s’pose I do.
3. 30mph, following a moped at 18mph, over took it, and immediately got pulled in. That’s 50 we’ve got. You’re joking, I was over taking a moped. Where’s the gun? Down the road there. Can I see the reading? No he’s just taken another reading now. Being naive I took their word for it. 3 points and 60 quid fine in 1985! Note, these were not bike cops.
4. Latest smash, out for the count. Bike cop says, other one came through the lights. He retires and it gets passed to a non bike cop. He clears it off his desk ASAP by going with a witness statement that said I left the lights too quick. After they had turned green, I may add. Bike DIC for you or court on a driving without due care and attention charge. I did the course, too many court horror stories. Proved my worth by getting 80% exceptional driving skill and 20% consistently good. Go figure.

Moral to this story, it’s not usually bike cops, it’s other branches. Plus traffic cops don’t tend to deal with breaking and entering. But, those who are supposed to have in the few times I’ve had to phone them have been bloody abysmal at turning out. Even when I actually had one scrote on the floor at 2 in the morning having seen him breaking into next doors car. Oh, hello X, they said when they did turn out. What have you been up to? They let him go!!!! Would you mind driving off whilst I can still see him? Says I. Oh no, anything happened we’d have to pay you a visit. Two boys in blue in a van.
But, when Linda phoned to say there was an intruder in the garden at 3AM and she was home alone, they were round in less than 4 minutes.

Ains.

[Stu748R]

I got pulled for doing 130MPH last year and said to the copper"havnt you got anything better to do like catch people with dark visors,small plates and loud cans?"


But i might be jesting.

[B19PSK]

Dear All,
In London the plod seem to have a lot more to do than the shires, hence I've not been pulled near home in years. In a recent visit to Bordon in Hampshire, upon leaving a small village (no street lights), about 10pm, few isolated houses, the limit drops to 30MPH. My brother travelling at speed on his Blade, got out of a side turning before me. I chased off after him, slowing at the bends, taking observation, but travelling quickly. Apparently I made it up to 88MPH!!! After seeing the blue lights I immediately pulled over, took a large humble pie out from the oven and started eating. The officer concerned seemed a little bit of a jobs worth. Saying that even though he passed his test about twenty years ago, about the same time as me, he never felt the need to get anything larger than 185cc. I resisted saying in my best Dirty Harry accent “ a mans got to know his limitations”. Even though he had me on film and bang to rights I was amazed when he said. “I am going to give you a once in a lifetime offer. Be on your way and keep the speed down. It’s my job to nick people speeding And you were speeding. However you were not driving dangerously and I don’t want to explain to my governor that I’m going to prosecute you for doing 88MPH in a 30, but I can’t prosecute you from dangerous driving”. Some logic!! I don’t care if you’ve all got webbed feet and marry your sister down there, your local plod are ok by me.

[andyb]

Originally posted by B19PSK
Dear All,
In London the plod seem to have a lot more to do than the shires, hence I've not been pulled near home in years. In a recent visit to Bordon in Hampshire, upon leaving a small village (no street lights), about 10pm, few isolated houses, the limit drops to 30MPH. My brother travelling at speed on his Blade, got out of a side turning before me. I chased off after him, slowing at the bends, taking observation, but travelling quickly. Apparently I made it up to 88MPH!!! After seeing the blue lights I immediately pulled over, took a large humble pie out from the oven and started eating. The officer concerned seemed a little bit of a jobs worth. Saying that even though he passed his test about twenty years ago, about the same time as me, he never felt the need to get anything larger than 185cc. I resisted saying in my best Dirty Harry accent “ a mans got to know his limitations”. Even though he had me on film and bang to rights I was amazed when he said. “I am going to give you a once in a lifetime offer. Be on your way and keep the speed down. It’s my job to nick people speeding And you were speeding. However you were not driving dangerously and I don’t want to explain to my governor that I’m going to prosecute you for doing 88MPH in a 30, but I can’t prosecute you from dangerous driving”. Some logic!! I don’t care if you’ve all got webbed feet and marry your sister down there, your local plod are ok by me.

88 in a 30....3x the limit............im suprised you didnt get to find out if your b/side was countersunk or punch bored!:D:o

[sharpo]

We're surrounded by idiots, just get used to it.:burn:

[tsmales]

Loud cans, small plates, speed limits etc etc, There all illegal and we all know it. So why is it acceptable to blame the police for doing their job and dealing with it when its rubbed in their faces. You may not agree with the laws, I may not agree with the laws but its hardly right to whinge because you get dealt with for breaking them ? We choose to take the risk of knowingly breaking the law even “just a little bit”. But the law is the law. Over the years I have picked up the bits of motorists of all varieties that have fallen foul of someone only braking the law a bit ! try telling that to the Mothers, fathers and children of the casualties.
Play within the rules - BE REAL !!

[zaker]

[quote]Originally posted by andyb
Most of whats been said here is shite............i, and i would know, do not know of any selective policing, to do with number plates, dark visors, or exhausts!

I dont know of anyone ever being done, or anyone doing any one for these offences!



Contact derbyshire police and ask how many were nicked on easter sunday at matlock bath for small plates, exhausts and visors
etc etc, must run into hundreds !!

Not selective policing ????????

[philthy]

Zaker

Bet you didn't expect this much 'discussion' when you made your post:lol::lol::lol:

[YMFB]

small plates, noisy pipes, no excuse, imho.

Speeding in wiltshire is obviously only hazardous when its warm and sunny as our local police officers only set up their speed detection equipment then.

[Carbon749]

Last time I was stopped in spot check it was on the A6 heading to Matlock Bath. We ended up in a heated discussion ..... all my fault, but, I felt it was all out of order.

Ususal deal, every bike stopped, officer approached and all he said was "plate and can check". He walked around the bike, commented on the number plate being a tad smaller than it should be, but, the digits were OK so told me to get on my way. His attitude was as though he was talking to a piece of dog ****.

I got a little defensive and asked if he wanted to see any documentation, check the bike was legal .... check it was not stolen. All he came back with (in a very sarcastic voice) was, "be happy I'm not doing visors and helmets, that would cost you £60".

OK, I'm happy that I was not done for anything, but, if my bike had been stolen and stopped in a police spot check I would like to think they would at least check out the owner's details let alone insurance, MOT, tax etc etc.

Basically felt like they were going for easy targets to generate cash and deter bikes from using the A6 Matlock road.


On a positive note, I have always run a race can and a small, but not minute, plate and have generally had positive experiences when stopped. They generally check most things and I ride away with a request to "keep it down and get a proper plate on".

[Edited on 1-5-2006 by Carbon749]

[deej]

some varying opinions and experiences i see. i guess every area and every policemans attitude is different,very different by the sounds of it

although the point about not checking documents and tax is a very interesting one,one i'd agree with. when we were in le mans last year they checked our documents before we left the secure parking, if a volunteer at a bike meet can do it why cant a english policeman with modern technology ???

do speed cameras only work in the sun as you never see them when its raining ??? :D:D:D:D

[zaker]

Originally posted by philthy
Zaker

Bet you didn't expect this much 'discussion' when you made
your post:lol::lol::lol:






Your dead right, engine mods in future !!

[Carbon749]

Originally posted by Carbon749
Originally posted by zaker
Does anyone know if pc plod are out in force this bank holiday picking on bikers again ?

They were easter bank holiday, pulling every biker for a routine check, exhausts, small plates etc in Matlock Bath.

Quite possibly. Stay off the A6 and head in to Matlock then on to Matlock bath ... just watch the speed camera between the 2.

I've found it best to head in to Matlock via A615 ... Wessington / Tansley etc. Not many police along this route and not many places they can set up a spot check pull in area.


I did try to give an answer to your original question before the thread was hijacked ;)

[zaker]

Originally posted by Carbon749
Originally posted by Carbon749
Originally posted by zaker
Does anyone know if pc plod are out in force this bank holiday picking on bikers again ?

They were easter bank holiday, pulling every biker for a routine check, exhausts, small plates etc in Matlock Bath.

Quite possibly. Stay off the A6 and head in to Matlock then on to Matlock bath ... just watch the speed camera between the 2.

I've found it best to head in to Matlock via A615 ... Wessington / Tansley etc. Not many police along this route and not many places they can set up a spot check pull in area.


I did try to give an answer to your original question before the thread was hijacked ;)









Did have a run out there yesterday via Ashbourne & Leek, came back through Matlock, but didnt see any bobbys. Did put the garage door size plate back on temporaly though !!

[Carbon749]

A lot of it tends to do with timing. Not sure if it's linked to shifts or time that the police will allocate to policing the Matlock area.

Best to avoid the A6 between 10:30am and 2:30pm. Don't tend to see many police after lunch time. Also, the stop checks etc tend to be on the inbound routes .... never been stopped yet coming back from Matlock.

Hear stories of un-marked police bikes, the odd Honda Blackbird etc. Not sure if these are local urban myths or not.

[Stu748R]

Did anyone get a tug over the bank holiday then???????????

[Ray]

BDG,

Your request for some straightforward information has been lost:lol:

Got a six digit plate on me 998 and I found some info. on the DVLA site that said a smaller overall size of plate was ok as long as letters, spacing, etc OK. 8x6 if I remember correctly, inches not cm!!!!

Just can't find it again though:puzzled:

If I do I'll try and remember to let you know,

Ray

[andyb]

Originally posted by Ray
BDG,

Your request for some straightforward information has been lost:lol:

Got a six digit plate on me 998 and I found some info. on the DVLA site that said a smaller overall size of plate was ok as long as letters, spacing, etc OK. 8x6 if I remember correctly, inches not cm!!!!

Just can't find it again though:puzzled:

If I do I'll try and remember to let you know,

Ray

Bike numbers have to be displayed on two lines...........:D

[BDG]

Originally posted by Ray
BDG,

Your request for some straightforward information has been lost:lol:

Got a six digit plate on me 998 and I found some info. on the DVLA site that said a smaller overall size of plate was ok as long as letters, spacing, etc OK. 8x6 if I remember correctly, inches not cm!!!!

Just can't find it again though:puzzled:

If I do I'll try and remember to let you know,

Ray

Thanks Ray.

[kwikbitch]

PHEW! Soz andyb and Rushjob but this discussion is great!

No-ones mentioned the state of the Education system yet so I'm alright for once!!!!:lol::P

[BDG]

My god i'm glad you reminded me, the state of our education system is appalling, maybe Tony should put Prescott in charge of education to instill some family values, of maybe Clark could be the right man or....................

[deej]

nope but we knew exactly where our speed camera van would be on the way home as its always on the a38 at the bottom of the hill in the layby. he didnt find it funny when 9 bikes went through at 25mph all waving at him :D:D:D:D:D