Assistance requested: KRC Endurance Entry July 29 [Archive]

29-Apr-2006, 18:08

Hi :D

Ali, Rattler and myself have decided to try and put together an entry for the KRC Endurance round at Snetterton on the 29th and 30th of July. We are in the embryonic stages of planning and so far we basically need help with everything!

The machine classes are here. (http://www.krcendurance.co.uk/2006regs.html#classes)

I have potential interest in tyre sponsorship and the offer of some spannering so far. To get us on the grid the first thing we need is a bike. We can't afford to do this by buying a bike so we are looking for assistance/loan bikes or whatever in this area. Our initial thoughts were along the lines of a 600 IL4 but are open to idea's and help. Any help over the weekend with spannering, paddock stands, support etc would be gratefully received and of course so would any financial assistance.

Whatever bike we end up riding, assuming it all comes together, we intend on having one set of bodywork painted up in the colours of any sponsors with the appropriate logo's in place.

If you would like to offer any help, in any capacity, please contact me via u2u or e-mail me at tony.perrin@gmail.com

Thanks for reading :)

TP, Tim & Ali

29-Apr-2006, 21:17

For an idea of what race day is like at a KRC endurance event please read this --> http://www.krcendurance.co.uk/2006champ.html

Hopefully this will whet a few appetites :D

Grib

29-Apr-2006, 21:53

Quite happy to come along and give you guys a hand, whether it be helping with wheel changes or just making tea :) Got a lovely, blue GSXR6 K1 in the workshop that would suit you guys down to the ground ;)

GsxrAge

29-Apr-2006, 22:00

Tp what you need mate I know of fully sorted endurance k3 1000 (world championship winning bike) Race trucks etc :lol::lol::lol::lol:

I could help as I have a bit of world endurance Knowledge now and work on 06 R1's most weekends.

Dunno about loan or hire of K3 but I could ask if ya want.

Age

29-Apr-2006, 22:02

Originally posted by AGE996
Tp what you need mate I know of fully sorted endurance k3 1000 (world championship winning bike) Race trucks etc :lol::lol::lol::lol:

I could help as I have a bit of world endurance Knowledge now and work on 06 R1's most weekends.

Dunno about loan or hire of K3 but I could ask if ya want.

Age

We'd be very appreciative of anything you could offer Age, we've already discussed speaking toyou to try and leverage your experience/contacts in the endurance world.

As for the K3 well there's no harm asking, if you don't ask you don't get!

Cheers,

:D

I'm getting quite excited about this!

GsxrAge

29-Apr-2006, 22:17

OK Mate I am back at the workshop tomorrow and will ask the Manager, I know they wanted around £9500 for the K3 but they might hire it out.

I know of one team in the krc who have bought 2 bikes from Phaseone (1 gsxr1000 and a 05 R1) and seem to be doing well with them.

the K3 has quick change wheels front and rear (we do tyres and fuel 24L + rider change in around 20 seconds) dunno about spare wheels tho. might be able to get ya some 195 or 205 tyres as well.

Age

29-Apr-2006, 22:31

Originally posted by Grib
Quite happy to come along and give you guys a hand, whether it be helping with wheel changes or just making tea :) Got a lovely, blue GSXR6 K1 in the workshop that would suit you guys down to the ground ;)

Thanks Luce :)

No doubt you're aware I've been having a text conversation with Tony this evening. We'd be grateful for any help you could give us - even if its just making tea and being supportive. We'll need someone to calculate times on the bike and do pitboards and all that malarkey I suppose!

Grib

29-Apr-2006, 22:34

Ooer, not done pitboards before. I can learn though :)

GsxrAge

29-Apr-2006, 22:44

Originally posted by TP
Originally posted by Grib
Quite happy to come along and give you guys a hand, whether it be helping with wheel changes or just making tea :) Got a lovely, blue GSXR6 K1 in the workshop that would suit you guys down to the ground ;)

Thanks Luce :)

No doubt you're aware I've been having a text conversation with Tony this evening. We'd be grateful for any help you could give us - even if its just making tea and being supportive. We'll need someone to calculate times on the bike and do pitboards and all that malarkey I suppose!

Yes mate the time keeping is very important ! you have to work out how many laps you do on fuel (Our r1's do 55 mins on 24L) the time keepers have to write down every lap time, real race time, calculate ETA next lap and time pitstops as they are all very important. You are also the first point of contact for the rider and if you don't bring him in at the right time the rider will not be happy with ya as they have just had to push it in as they ran out of juice.

I was doing 2 hour stints at le Mans on time keeping and once you get the hang of it it quite easy.

twpd

29-Apr-2006, 23:03

Having done endurance before I can give a couple of pieces of advice:

1. Spend time getting the bike set up to suit you all or get individual setups, make note of the changes and then arrange you riding order to make it quick and easy to swap between the setups.

2. Make sure you have a good tyre budget. The team I was riding for didn't and we ended up recyling tyres which, was not a lot of fun.

BTW Tony...endurance racing is what you do when you get too old for club racing :lol:

domski

29-Apr-2006, 23:16

I can spanner, pit crew, help, build a web page for sponsors???

Bastids, I'm dead jealous ;)

Good luck

domski

29-Apr-2006, 23:18

Originally posted by TP
Our initial thoughts were along the lines of a 600 IL4 but are open to idea's and help.

OK, so now that makes sense ;)

2+2 and all that :P

domski

29-Apr-2006, 23:23

Don't you guys fancy running a Ducati?

I'm sure Yeti's old clonker would be good at Snett :lol:

Maybe this could be a DSC Entry? Good for the club, bit of extra exposure, get a Ducati out on the grid (big twin class is easier too).

Someone here must have a bike they'd loan you.

People can chip in some pennies, and we all come along and cheer you guys on?

Maybe? :puzzled::)

domski

29-Apr-2006, 23:29

Have you considered renting a bike from Louigi? :eureka:

Rattler

29-Apr-2006, 23:33

A Ducati would be great - but would be potentially very expensive. There's a good reason why there's none running in Endurance racing!!! ;)

Rattler

29-Apr-2006, 23:34

Oh yeh - I'm getting really excited about doing this. :roll::roll::roll::roll:

Rattler

29-Apr-2006, 23:44

NBs996

30-Apr-2006, 00:25

See you there boys... I'll be with Portsmouth Yamaha :)

There's some very fast, and some very slow riders in the series - At Brands a couple of weeks ago there were many struggling to get below 1 minute on a nice sunny day, so you guys shouldn't come last by any means.

Don't overlook one thing - For the KRC series you'll need to provide a marshal for the day.

30-Apr-2006, 09:34

Thanks Nick :D I figured we had to after reading some of the message boards last night.

We'd love to run a Ducati if someone was kind enough to lend us one. The thing to remember here is that it needs to stand up to 8 hours of being caned by me, Tim and Ali! So it can't really be in a high state of tune - also because when we hand it back we'd have to hand it back with a healthy bit of wedge for a top end rebuild!

Having said that, if someone offered us a Ducati and we could swing it somehow it's game on!

30-Apr-2006, 09:39

Originally posted by domski
Don't you guys fancy running a Ducati?

I'm sure Yeti's old clonker would be good at Snett :lol:

Well, John hasn't offered but I would imagine that it would be in too high a state of tune?

Originally posted by domski
Maybe this could be a DSC Entry? Good for the club, bit of extra exposure, get a Ducati out on the grid (big twin class is easier too).

I've e-mailed the chairman so we'll see what comes back.

Originally posted by domski
Someone here must have a bike they'd loan you.

We certainly hope so mate, otherwise we're going to struggle. Unless we can rent one cheap enough to make it viable for us.

Originally posted by domski
People can chip in some pennies, and we all come along and cheer you guys on?

Maybe? :puzzled::)

That's an excellent idea. If we want something for the DSC we'd be happy to run club colours or just generally be a focus point for the club.

We'd be very appreciative of any assistance you could offer Dom.

Originally posted by domski
Have you considered renting a bike from Louigi? :eureka:

We didn't actually - do you know how much it would be? Also, would he maintain it during the race?!

Hrmm ...

It's important to remember though, all three of us are tarts so we'll race anything nearly but it has to be able to last 8 hours of continual abuse!

[Edited on 30-4-2006 by TP]

antonye

30-Apr-2006, 11:45

Tony, I'll put you in touch with my mate Neal who was part of Team UKRM that raced exclusively in KRC endurance for the last few years. He's got plenty of experience in this and can give you loads of tips.

Will u2u you his details.

Felix

30-Apr-2006, 12:53

Originally posted by twpdBTW Tony...endurance racing is what you do when you get too old for club racing :lol:

:lol::lol:

Jon

30-Apr-2006, 17:03

Very commendable boys, but do you realise just how much this is going to cost. Or is this a Weeksy wind up again.;)

Dibble

30-Apr-2006, 18:58

Originally posted by Jon
Very commendable boys, but do you realise just how much this is going to cost. Or is this a Weeksy wind up again.;)

no, they are waiting for you to offer the RR .....

NBs996

30-Apr-2006, 19:36

Jon's RR would be the perfect bike to use.

Jon

30-Apr-2006, 19:38

Originally posted by DIBBLE
Originally posted by Jon
Very commendable boys, but do you realise just how much this is going to cost. Or is this a Weeksy wind up again.;)

no, they are waiting for you to offer the RR .....

They will wait a long time then:)

Dibble

30-Apr-2006, 20:55

Originally posted by Jon
Originally posted by DIBBLE
Originally posted by Jon
Very commendable boys, but do you realise just how much this is going to cost. Or is this a Weeksy wind up again.;)

no, they are waiting for you to offer the RR .....

They will wait a long time then:)

PMSL :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

GsxrAge

30-Apr-2006, 21:05

Tp Ali and Rattler I have spoken to Russell at Phase one and he would be willing to hire you the K3 1000. If you guys want to discus this pop down on a sat to the workshops and have a look.

Bikes can be built to your specs as well

I will post some pics later.

Age

GsxrAge

30-Apr-2006, 22:10

arg can't post pics getting server error !

It won't let me attach a pic :mad:

[Edited on 30-4-2006 by AGE996]

domski

30-Apr-2006, 22:27

Wow thats a mega deal, good work Age.

I've been working hard on the...

Race Team Website (http://www.domweb.co.uk/krc/)

:P:P:P:lol::lol::lol:

GsxrAge

30-Apr-2006, 22:36

PMSL dom

The bike is more than capable of winning !!!

it still quick enough for top 20 in world endurance !

Age

GsxrAge

30-Apr-2006, 22:55

K3 PICS

http://age996.southwestbikers.com/k3pic1.JPG

http://age996.southwestbikers.com/k3pic2.JPG

http://age996.southwestbikers.com/k3pic3.JPG

http://age996.southwestbikers.com/k3pic4.JPG

or a few r1's being made ready for Spain in 3 weeks

http://age996.southwestbikers.com/r1pic1.JPG

http://age996.southwestbikers.com/r1pic2.JPG

http://age996.southwestbikers.com/r1pic3.JPG

http://age996.southwestbikers.com/r1pic4.JPG

Age

domski

30-Apr-2006, 23:04

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01-May-2006, 07:45

Originally posted by domski
Wow thats a mega deal, good work Age.

I've been working hard on the...

Race Team Website (http://www.domweb.co.uk/krc/)

:P:P:P:lol::lol::lol:

nice work mate:)

ali

01-May-2006, 08:35

Originally posted by domski
I've been working hard on the...

Race Team Website (http://www.domweb.co.uk/krc/)

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Pure genius!

Far too busy trying to plan a wedding to get on the board this weekend. 8hrs at Snet should be a cakewalk after sorting out trans-european in-law logistics! :lol:

Massive thanks to Age, Lucie and Dom for the offers of help. You will be taken up on it! Age; special thanks for talking to Phase1 about the K3, I won't pretend that it doesn't scare the bejesus out of me just thinking about running a tuned k3, but I'm sure it'd be a big boost to all our riding.

Off for a 10m hike to start the training. And when I get to the end of the garden I may well turn around and come back....

Cheers,

Ali

01-May-2006, 10:15

:lol:

Thanks for the website Dom, very amusing!

Age, that K3 looks awesome. It really does depend on the cost of hiring it as to whether it's feasible or not - we don't have much of a 'budget'!. Also, just how do you hang on to one of those things? Riding it for 8 hours will definintely be a challenge and an exercise in throttle control!

We're looking at as many options as we can at the moment but hope to have it narrowed quickly so we can get on with all the other planning.

Age any chance you can u2u me ballpark figures on hiring the K3?

Redruth

01-May-2006, 10:29

Blimey, I take it you three race boys were in the pub on Friday night and came up with yet another way to avoid having a proper home life :lol::lol::lol:

Tim, you'll be getting plenty of sleepless night training in over the next couple of months so you'll be fit as a flea for this.

Dom's website design gets the essence of this plan, I reckon but I'd like to come along for the crack. Knowing my range of skills as you do, feel free to suggest any way I can help. I can't think of anything, other than making tea, but wouldn't miss it for the world. :roll::roll::roll:

Redruth

01-May-2006, 10:39

Actually, I seem to recall I volunteered to marshall on this last year, before it all got downgraded to an 8 hour race. So you could put my name down for that, if you like. :rolleye:

01-May-2006, 13:10

Thanks very much for the very kind offer Ruth. Much appreciated!

Age, can you please let me know where the workshop is? You have a u2u.

:)

Grib

01-May-2006, 13:58

Anybody that's done timekeeping fancy giving me some lessons some time?

This is the K1 600. Of course, I can sticker her up as required :)

http://www.btinternet.com/~tonyhathaway/T/Images/gsxrk1-3.JPG

Wouldn't cost much if you split it three ways, special racers discount too :smug:

Rattler

01-May-2006, 14:06

domski

01-May-2006, 14:06

Phase One are based just outside Bridgwater (Somerset) on the road to Minehead (A39) about 3-4 miles away from the town.

...at least they were!! :)

I'll come with you too, only 10 miles from me :D:D:D

01-May-2006, 14:08

Originally posted by Grib
Anybody that's done timekeeping fancy giving me some lessons some time?

This is the K1 600. Of course, I can sticker her up as required :)

http://www.btinternet.com/~tonyhathaway/T/Images/gsxrk1-3.JPG

Wouldn't cost much if you split it three ways, special racers discount too :smug:

:D Nice one Lucie, thanks.

We'll just have to wait and see where we end up with a bike but we'll let you know about the K1 soon I hope.

I'd like to try and turn this into a real DSC event. It has a lot of scope for anyone to get involved and help out. I had a thought of someone keeping a bbq going to feed any spectators we have coming along to see us and help out the team and generally having a good social side. Obviously someone keeping an eye on the timing, making sure spare wheels/tyres have warmers on them etc ... heaps to do!

Grib

01-May-2006, 14:15

BBQ's are usually a man job, what with the heat and smoke and manly things going on ;) I'll just do whatever you need really. I'm a dab hand at having bottles of water ready when a rider comes in, making sure visors are cleaned, gear's ready to go etc etc

Dibble

01-May-2006, 14:25

Originally posted by TP
I'd like to try and turn this into a real DSC event. It has a lot of scope for anyone to get involved and help out.

didn't Weeksy get laughed out of town for trying to get DSC input, support, sponsorship and members to fund his (non Ducati) racing a little while ago ????

oh how times change .....

domski

01-May-2006, 14:44

01-May-2006, 14:48

Originally posted by Grib
BBQ's are usually a man job, what with the heat and smoke and manly things going on ;) I'll just do whatever you need really. I'm a dab hand at having bottles of water ready when a rider comes in, making sure visors are cleaned, gear's ready to go etc etc

Well, I don't usually hand the bbq tongs to just anyone! There's certain standards to be upheld and I may need to see your work before the handover ceremony is scheduled!

;)

01-May-2006, 14:50

Dibble

01-May-2006, 15:00

Originally posted by TP
Originally posted by DIBBLE
Originally posted by TP
I'd like to try and turn this into a real DSC event. It has a lot of scope for anyone to get involved and help out.

didn't Weeksy get laughed out of town for trying to get DSC input, support, sponsorship and members to fund his (non Ducati) racing a little while ago ????

oh how times change .....

It's easy to compare oranges with apples for a nice sensational post isn't it donut boy ;)

Put the wooden spoon down and step away from the PC ...

if I wanted "sensationalism" trust me, I have the vocabulary to create it, as it stands I'm just speaking my mind ...

no need for cheap smileys or "spin" here, just commenting on what I see, in fact I think Weeksys plea was more commendable as he was reacting to the lambasting he got here about his lack of racing that season .....

no stirring mate, just amazing no one else sees it ...

maybe it should be in "DSC Topics" then ???? before it gets "controversial" eh ?

01-May-2006, 15:11

Originally posted by DIBBLE
if I wanted "sensationalism" trust me, I have the vocabulary to create it, as it stands I'm just speaking my mind ...

no need for cheap smileys or "spin" here, just commenting on what I see, in fact I think Weeksys plea was more commendable as he was reacting to the lambasting he got here about his lack of racing that season .....

no stirring mate, just amazing no one else sees it ...

maybe it should be in "DSC Topics" then ???? before it gets "controversial" eh ?

It wasn't spin - it was pointing out that you're not comparing like with like and don't try and convince me you weren't stirring, you're one of the biggest stirrers on here! but ... whatever you want, you're of course entitled to post what you want where you want.

If you want to debate the merits of who's request is more valid etc can you start your own thread please? This thread is about us asking for assistance and is genuine. I'd appreciate it if you didn't turn it into a farce.

Grib

01-May-2006, 15:42

Originally posted by TP
Originally posted by Grib
BBQ's are usually a man job, what with the heat and smoke and manly things going on ;) I'll just do whatever you need really. I'm a dab hand at having bottles of water ready when a rider comes in, making sure visors are cleaned, gear's ready to go etc etc

Well, I don't usually hand the bbq tongs to just anyone! There's certain standards to be upheld and I may need to see your work before the handover ceremony is scheduled!

;)

I could never meet the tough standards of an Aussie when it comes to BBQing :o It'd just be best if you stayed well clear, you'll only get upset by the burnt on the outside, raw in the middle English way :P

01-May-2006, 15:48

Originally posted by Grib
I could never meet the tough standards of an Aussie when it comes to BBQing :o It'd just be best if you stayed well clear, you'll only get upset by the burnt on the outside, raw in the middle English way :P

:lol:

Maybe I'll just cook my own then if that's ok chef?

domski

01-May-2006, 15:59

Originally posted by TP
Originally posted by Grib
I could never meet the tough standards of an Aussie when it comes to BBQing :o It'd just be best if you stayed well clear, you'll only get upset by the burnt on the outside, raw in the middle English way :P

:lol:

Maybe I'll just cook my own then if that's ok chef?

Planning on an early finish eh? :o

There's confidence in your team-mates :smug:

:lol::lol::lol:

GsxrAge

01-May-2006, 18:56

Originally posted by domski
Phase One are based just outside Bridgwater (Somerset) on the road to Minehead (A39) about 3-4 miles away from the town.

...at least they were!! :)

I'll come with you too, only 10 miles from me :D:D:D

Yep the workshops are on the way to hinkley point powerstation.

We can and do build bikes to your own specs !

Age

P.s my wife is a chef and she does the grub for 36 people at phase one so she might be up for helping, oh some of my fellow team mates race in the KRC (black cat is one but I am buggered if I can remember the other one)

[Edited on 1-5-2006 by AGE996]

weeksy2

02-May-2006, 08:03

Originally posted by DIBBLE
Originally posted by TP
I'd like to try and turn this into a real DSC event. It has a lot of scope for anyone to get involved and help out.

didn't Weeksy get laughed out of town for trying to get DSC input, support, sponsorship and members to fund his (non Ducati) racing a little while ago ????

oh how times change .....

Without getting into too much of a debate.... you're right and wrong.

I had some help once from DSC back when racing a Ducati at Donnington as did Felix and ummm i forget the Scottish lads name, sorry.....

However yes i was met with 'why should we put our hands in pockets for you?' 'it's not even a Ducati' and 'Are you having a laugh' were a few of the comments.

02-May-2006, 11:08

I've called and left a few messages today - one to the Manager of the Phase One endurance team :D

Now about to phone KRC ...

It's all gathering momentum people!

GsxrAge

02-May-2006, 20:04

I hope phase one and you can come to an agreement TP.

If anyone wants a race bike/ trackday bike they will build you one to your specs !

Age

Jon

02-May-2006, 22:07

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ben-Bostrom-Renegade-HONDA-CBR1000RR-FIREBLADE_W0QQitemZ4635140865QQcategoryZ9806QQrdZ1 QQcmdZViewItem

How about this lads;)

Rattler

02-May-2006, 23:02

that's an ugly mo fo

domski

03-May-2006, 00:18

Originally posted by AGE996
I hope phase one and you can come to an agreement TP.

If anyone wants a race bike/ trackday bike they will build you one to your specs !

Age

Not to your price though :lol:

Have to just dribble over the photo's ;)

fil2

03-May-2006, 08:41

"To get us on the grid the first thing we need is a bike. We can't afford to do this by buying a bike so we are looking for assistance/loan bikes or whatever in this area. Our initial thoughts were along the lines of a 600 IL4 but are open to idea's and help,. Any help over the weekend with spannering, paddock stands, support etc would be gratefully received and of course so would any financial assistance"

TP ALI and Rattler with a combined income of lots and lots of pounds !!! and assets the size of a small african country..!!!!! :P...want DSC and private sponsorhip to help them a 8 hour endurance race...!!

One word lads one word..!!

" PRICELESS ".......................

:borg:

[Edited on 3-5-2006 by fil2]