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desmobob
17-May-2006, 14:15
Could some helpful individual possibly disclose to me if it's possible to change the gear selection pattern to 1-up / 5-down on the 999R and 916 without purchasing additional bit's-and-bob's ?

On my R6 / R1 it's a case of just swapping the selector shaft upside down, not sure about the aformentioned Ducati models though.

khushy
17-May-2006, 14:16
all you need is a race pattern lever - you can do it without one but the "feel" is aweful.

Do it - you wont look back!

Khushy

desmobob
17-May-2006, 14:30
Many thanks, I'll put an 'ad' in the wanted section :burn:

desmobob
17-May-2006, 14:35
Forgot to ask, is that the same for both the 916 and 999R ?
I would have thought the 999R would have allowed me to change the pattern without any additional cost .... but then it is a Ducati :roll:

khushy
17-May-2006, 14:39
yep - the same!

TP
17-May-2006, 14:41
I've got the reverse shift lever on my 998R and I run reverse shift on the racebike as well but Grahame (Butch890 on this board) just turned the bugger around somehow so it still has the linkage.

It is a different feel with the direct lever off the spline as opposed to using the linkage to achieve the same pattern.

andyb
17-May-2006, 15:44
apparantly butch used a crank lever off of an 05 monster £10! to achieve the race pattern with the linkage lever!

Herb
17-May-2006, 15:51
Originally posted by khushy


Do it - you wont look back!

Khushy

Can someone explain to me why there is a difference between road and track set ups and what the advantages are. Not a racer, just curious.

ziggi
17-May-2006, 16:01
Herb - You're probably thinking that it's more logical to go up the box to go up a higher gear and down to go down a gear but in race mode, pressing down on the lever to go up a gear is quicker and slicker to operate. Imagine a race bike with a quick-shifter and race pattern just holding open the throttle and ust pressing down every few seconds for maximum velocity. If you watch the racers when they click up (to go down a gear) they normally do 2 or 3 gears at a time to get it out the way and right for a corner.

andyb
17-May-2006, 16:02
Originally posted by Herb
Originally posted by khushy


Do it - you wont look back!

Khushy

Can someone explain to me why there is a difference between road and track set ups and what the advantages are. Not a racer, just curious.

because operating the lever with your foot is easier pressing down than getting your foot underneath to lift it, when there may be ground clearance issues.........eg if you have to change gear when leant over its more likely that your doing this accelerating, ie, going up the box rather than down....

desmobob
17-May-2006, 16:18
My track bike is set up with race shift purely because when it's cranked over on it's ear it's sometimes near impossible for size 10 feet to lift up and around the lever to push up on the gear link. That's why I understood most racers use this 1-up + 5-down shift pattern. It's far easier to push down than pull up. When your pulling - up, (changing down to a lower speed gear) - normally this only happens when your slowing, therefore you have both feet securely positioned enabling you to change down much easier.
Having said that John Reynolds and Chris Walker use a road pattern, they probably have very small feet :sing: My dad told me that apparently the UK standard was race shift pattern, the rest of the world was the other way around. When a 'standard' was agreed more bikes were being made abroad so there's was adopted.
I’m just constantly aware when I’m riding my road bikes that I could potentially go down a gear when I meant to go up and it’s happened which can be exciting without a slipper clutch fitted.

zhed44
19-May-2006, 12:59
Originally posted by desmobob
Having said that John Reynolds and Chris Walker use a road pattern,


and leon haslam IIRC :eureka: