DD Nutters on trackdays ;) ;)

[couchcommando]

http://www.mcnninjas.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=33996.0

[domski]

Jesus, what a bunch on moaning tarts.

I would think it's sour grapes at being overtaken by a little bike. Poofs.

Maybe if these trackday legends learned how to ride properly rather than buying the biggest/fastest bikes out there, then they may not scare themselves so much.

Nice one Griff ;)

[paynep]

They sound like a bunch of Class A riders......

[Grib]

We always joked that site should be called MCNNovices, that thread just about confirms it ;)

Griff's such a big, mean, bully! :P

[Edited on 18-5-2006 by Grib]

[twpd]

>>Soon passed him on the straights though

:lol: Well that showed him, eh? A superior display of skill on the straight.

[butch890]

Originally posted by twpd
>>Soon passed him on the straights though

:lol: Well that showed him, eh? A superior display of skill on the straight.
Several times as well!
How does that work then!:lol:
Butch

[Rattler]

Good work Griff - he's such a nice guy too ;)

[domski]

Originally posted by Dseered
Who is the offender ?

Andy Griffiths :cool:

A 583 DD Novice - golly gosh he's so wild!! :lol:

[phoenix n max]

Originally posted by domski
Originally posted by Dseered
Who is the offender ?

Andy Griffiths :cool:

A 583 DD Novice - golly gosh he's so wild!! :lol:

:lol::lol:
Griff you're naughty :o

[Edited on 18-5-2006 by phoenix n max]

[GsxrAge]

I did Llandow with them last year and thought I had made a mistake entering the fast group as there were a few Race bikes there !

So I decided to go at the back as not to hold em up !!!! ere found out they were holding me up :o:lol::lol::lol:

[GsxrAge]

Check this out for a great Quote :lol::lol:

Thing is, Ducati bloke prolly thought he was slow ('cos he is in his series). It's just that non-racing mortals find him fast


:lol::lol::lol:

[Chaz]

Originally posted by domski
Originally posted by Dseered
Who is the offender ?

Andy Griffiths :cool:

A 583 DD Novice - golly gosh he's so wild!! :lol:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Griff 64]

http://www.traxpics.co.uk/SHOW-20060515-Snetterton/1600-1700//Small/KJW_5113.JPG

I thankyou:lol:

Can someone make this picture come up automatically

[TP]

:lol: :lol:

Of course! How can I resist.

http://www.traxpics.co.uk/SHOW-20060515-Snetterton/1600-1700//Small/KJW_5113.JPG

[TP]

Bloody troublemaker!

:ninja:

[Griff 64]

Thanks TP

Thanks alot to Tony.Big spoon award goes to you:D

What a load of bollox about nothing.PMSL that the guy with the gripe has the log in Ninja Winja.How apt.

Not ridden the bika since Brands and with Lucy injured the chance came up to ride in her place at Snetterton.Good practice for September i thought so of i pop for my 6th ever trackday.Should of known it could be dodgy when i found out it was called Ninjafest.

Inters group.Learning my way round,keeping right out the way down the straights.Track loads better than i expected.Loved Coram and Riches real ballsy stuff.Soon found out that balls are not reqd to ride a Kawasaki as most of them were straight line warriors.

What to do but ride round the outside of them!It was suprising how few did come back at me down the straights.I spent 2 seesions with a guy on a new Fireblade.Passed me on hte start straight,ran round the outside of him at the first corner.Passed me on the back straight[i was doing 115mph according to my gearing] so ran around the outside of him around Coram.He enjoyed it and said so.His bike was £8500.Mine was £950:lol::lol::lol:

The riding ability in the group was way to mixed.Some should of been on a CBT never mind in novices.I went out of my way to be polite especiaaly to a number of ladies in the group.
One lad [Winja Ninja ] did come up and say that he thought i had passed him to close on 2 occasions at Sears corner.I said that i was sorry if ihad but had no recollecton of him or the passes and if he had a real concern to see the organisers.He mentioned i should be in the fast group if i was going to ride like that and of he went. He was not aggressive or abusive and i commented that i would keep my eye out for him.
PMSL in the next session when hes there wobbling around on the edge of the track having been stuffed by someone at the bomb hole.So funny so i gave him a friendly wave [see photo]
Couldn,t beleive it in his forum where he says i hit him on the elbow and pushed him on the grass and had to be restrained from hitting me. What a anchor.

Overall enjoyed the day and particularly the track.Met the photo guy who said it was really funny watching this little Duke flying round the outside of people .Check out his site at www.traxpics.co.uk

So who wants to ride with me at Castle Combe and Oulton trackdays:D

[skidlids]

Originally posted by Griff 64
i was doing 115mph according to my gearing

So what gearing was that then
you know I would tell you :D :roll:

[domski]

Look at the grin :D:D:D

Nice one Griff ;)

[psychlist]

:lol:
Sounds like my kinda fun Andy, nothing better than riding round the outside of everyone in corners to show the "big" bikes how it's done!

[weeksy2]

Funny really isn't it....

i got told off for simillar antics by YOU lot not that long ago....


double standards ?

[Scooter916]

Dont think there were any antics..... Just their interpretation of his riding.... Oh and the embarrasment of being passed by a 50bhp bike.
I have RACED at close quaters with Griff and can confirm that he is one of the safest guys to be around on track, Respect shown and given at cadwell where there were 6 of us all going for it and it was safe.
glyn

[bradders]

couldnt agree more weeksy.....seems theres lots of racing gods now and they forget how it was when they first began trackdays, especially with their pride and joy (not race bike), and whether or not it was that close is immateriel, its the fact that the other guy was spooked by it

[Grib]

Maybe Mr Spooked by a very small Ducati should try the Novice group instead of exercising his ego by booking the Inters?

[Edited on 19-5-2006 by Grib]

[weeksy2]

Maybe Mr Racer should be in fast....

Fast group has nothing to do with power... and everything to do with

EXPERIENCE

LINES

CORNER SPEED

How many little 125's who race, or CB500's who race do you see in the Inters ?

[Grib]

Today, at cadwell, one CB500 in Inters, one 125 in novice, so that's two ;)

I'd usually agree with how to decide groups, but on a track like Snett with two hugely fast straights and a few people in the Fast group who could actually use a litre bike to potential, we thought it would be a dangerous place for a bike with that little top end speed to be. Knowing Griff, there's no way he treated them like they're claiming. Matey should have concentrated on what he was doing instead of farting about looking behind him.

[psychlist]

Well I'm booked on the Oulton track day at the end of June in the fast group!
Is that the wrong move, seeing as it's my first time there?

[Grib]

psychlist...well, I'm not very brave and wouldn't ever take the little Ducati out in the Fast group. Depends how quick you can hustle it round and how confident you are I guess :)

[Rattler]

Originally posted by psychlist
Well I'm booked on the Oulton track day at the end of June in the fast group!
Is that the wrong move, seeing as it's my first time there?

Probably - I'm in Inters - and that's definitely the right place for me. I don't know Oulton very well and its a very quick track with some blind approaches.

IMHO Oulton is a circuit that's enjoyed by some very quick local lads who know it very well - the fast group for a first-timer is a brave move.

Tim

[Edited on 19-5-2006 by Rattler]

[gasmanrus]

Originally posted by Griff 64
having been stuffed by someone at the bomb hole.:D

oh dear, no wonder he wasn't happy :o

i used to have so much fun at places like snett. over/undertaking (safely of course) all the "real mens bikes" on my 400 after they'd screamed passed with inches to spare on the staights only to brake to a virtual standstill for the bend

[domski]

If I was at Snett I would have gone in inters too.

At the Brands day I did, I was in inters.

I'm planning on a Oulton day, which will be in inters.

It's a race track ffs, as long as you respect others (give em room etc) then I don't see what the problem is. I tell you one thing - it's not the 'racers' that cause the problems.

Ask Couch!!!

[Edited on 19-5-2006 by domski]

[Griff 64]

Weeksey,we were in the same group at Brands Hatch in April,Inters.Would you say we were in the right group on that day and did you see any inconsiderate riding from me.Genuinely intrested in your reply.

As for experience that was my 6th trackday in 3 years [plus the 2 races this season].I would not call myself a racer personally but i do have a idea of what constitutes going fast.

The biggest problem was the level of ability in the group.On the whole in hindsight i would say it was poor.To many had decided they would not be seen dead in novices as they were all mates.The cue to get there "knees down" at Sear was comical, until one fell off and got ran over by someone else right in front of me.By 11 oclock 25% of the fast group had fell off and they announced could everyone calm down as they had more incidents to this point than at the last 8 trackdays.

The nature of the track also exagerated the speed differences.The first corner and round the back through the bombhole and especially Coram are very fast indeed.$th and 5th gear flat out stuff.If you ride well through these areas you arrive in the braking zone carrying considerably more speed and appear next to someone quickly.
On the long straights i moved as far to the left as soon as possible to keep out of the way.I thought it only polite.The speed difference in my group was not as huge as i expected but then very few carried any corner speed onto the straights.How different that would be in fast group with the likes of Couchcommando on is 150 bhp missile, slicks and corner speed.H,mm

As for valued roadbikes.I think my little bike is worth more to me than any of those Green things:lol:

I think the final comment on the day must be that despite it being a No Limits Trackday several complaints were made about the instructors passing to close to certain people..I think that says alot about the type of day it became

[domski]

...and I bet these moaners are boasting to their mates about how bloody fast they are too!!

:lol:

[Griff 64]

Can,t help but think this has alot to do with a red white and green tractor with a number on it on Ninjafest day:D

Ninjafest...........PMSL .if lucy had told me it was called that i would not have gone:lol::lol::lol:

[domski]

Winjafest :borg:

[weeksy2]

Originally posted by Griff 64
Weeksey,we were in the same group at Brands Hatch in April,Inters.Would you say we were in the right group on that day and did you see any inconsiderate riding from me.Genuinely intrested in your reply.



Nope, certainly didn't fella. You rode very well that day...


there's always a but ;) you were only close to me 3 times and i honestly don't recall any of your overtakes, so i'm assuming they didn't scare me :)

I still feel people who are actively racing should be in fast group really. BUt again, that's a toughie as people need to learn new tracks or run in new bikes... etc etc.

As usual i'm playing devils advocate to an extent as i wasn't there and have seen you ride quickly and safely.....

[David W]

Hi all

I come in peace from the MCNNovices site before you all spill your Chianti.

Just thought I'd point out that the day at Snetterton was arranged by two members and No-Limits as a day especially for Novices and the normal trackday groups didn't apply, which is why I think we had the situation that we had. The Novice goup was for people that really were first-timers, the 2nd group was billed as 'not quite novices' rather than full Inters and the 3rd group was a mix of Regular Inters/Fast so there was a mixed bag of riders across the board.

The general feeling was that anyone that is competing in a race series really should have been in the Fast Group, but I guess Griff wasn't to know that.

Nice bike by the way. I was next to you in the pit garage on the ZRX1100.

[Edited on 20-5-2006 by David W]

[Fastfasulli]

Hi,

Cant help giving my penneth worth here. I was at Brands track day and Griff passed me on a number of occasions over the day and I was never spooked. He always looked like he was in complete control of the bike - which in fact helped me to go faster seeing what he was doing. I'm new to this race malarkey so I am not used to close manouvers either.


Anyway I have to admit that I have been struggling a bit with my riding(although enjoying it immensely) and I have been running at the back of the pack in the 583 races. So my question is what group do I go in? I would want to go in the inters where I might be able to follow a few faster DD riders to help me out bit - if you don't mind of course.

Cheers

Franco

[Fastfasulli]

Originally posted by Fastfasulli
Hi,

Cant help giving my penneth worth here. I was at Brands track day and Griff passed me on a number of occasions over the day and I was never spooked. He always looked like he was in complete control of the bike - which in fact helped me to go faster seeing what he was doing. I'm new to this race malarkey so I am not used to close manouvers either.


Anyway I have to admit that I have been struggling a bit with my riding(although enjoying it immensely) and I have been running at the back of the pack in the 583 races. So my question is what group do I go in? I would want to go in the inters where I might be able to follow a few faster DD riders to help me out bit - if you don't mind of course.

Cheers

Franco

Opps I mean the Outlon track day by the way

[domski]

What do you class a novice? and when are you too fast?

Griff has done 6 trackdays and 2 race meetings - I'd say that he's a novice.

Is it his fault that he's a good rider?

If a bloke on a 50bhp bike that's probably going around Snett in high 1m 20s (i.e. nearer to 1m 30) is seen to be too fast or too dangerous - then you're all very very sad people.

From my experience, the fast group is full of 1000cc bikes with guys who are blindingly fast in a straight line and then park up mid corner - that to me is more dangerous than someone like Griff or any DD rider for that matter.

What was dodgy last year, was when Mr Devils Advocate brought his GSXR750 to Snett, and blatted down the straights very impressively, and then 5-point turned it through the corners.

It annoys me that just because someone has done 2 race meetings that they are now a 'racer' and should be in the fast group - what a load of crap. Best thing to do is learn to ride in the slow group before adventuring out in to inters with the super fast 100mph top speed 583's - they're wild!!!!

[David W]

Originally posted by domski

From my experience, the fast group is full of 1000cc bikes with guys who are blindingly fast in a straight line and then park up mid corner - that to me is more dangerous than someone like Griff or any DD rider for that matter.


Yeh, you're probably right. These slow cornering, 1000cc things were getting right in my way in the Fast group at Donington last year...... :devil: :lol:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b256/davidwe/AVD_8931a.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b256/davidwe/AVD_8986a.jpg

[Edited on 20-5-2006 by David W]

[domski]

Is that a real time shot, with the Dukes coming through one at a time?

:P:lol:

[David W]

I'd just stopped and parked it on my knee like that :D

[domski]

:lol:

My, what a big leg you must have :o :lol: :D

[Grib]

Originally posted by David W

The general feeling was that anyone that is competing in a race series really should have been in the Fast Group, but I guess Griff wasn't to know that.

Nice bike by the way. I was next to you in the pit garage on the ZRX1100.

[Edited on 20-5-2006 by David W]

Hello :) Well, I guess it's all done and dusted now and no punch ups happened, so best just get on with things :) Maybe see you at Ninjafest proper at Donington. Might just have to take me Ducati
;)

[Griff 64]

Thanks for the info Dave W.Certainly explains alot about the general pace in the group.

Sorry i didn,t meet you in the garage but did see your bike.Friend of mine had one and loved it till he wrote it off in Wales!I,m sure they go very well in the right hands.

Hope you get your knee down soon by the way:lol::lol:
Nice pics.Please pass on my regards on your own site,no offence or harm done i think.Enjoy the rest of your summers riding
:D

[Griff 64]

Oh Lucy i think the patient is calling:lol::lol::lol:

[couchcommando]

That was a top discussion, apparently they are gonna 'get' you after school griff and flush your head down the toilet, least that's what they told me.....:lol:

[Griff 64]

:lol::lol::lol:

[Grib]

Blimey, I'm no. 1 enemy of the site over there now :o Might just have to hide out in here in a dark corner for a bit.....you aint seen me, roight?

:P

[Griff 64]

Just read it Lucy. How bad are you.Blimey,glad i didn,t upset anyone on there:lol::lol::lol:

[Grib]

Naughty Grib :( I'll put myself to bed with no Tea.