tyre warmers, your experiance/advice pls

[Bungi]

so im thinking of the benefits of tyre warmers and was looking at ebay diamond tyre warmers item no 8068266771,

q1 are tyre warmers worthwhile on trackdays what with all the waiting in pit lane b4 u get on track?

q2 are the diamond ones any good? can anyone vouch for them? any others better VFM? suggestions!

q3 do i need sometype of exhaust guard?

thanks peeps

[JPM]

1. Yes because it's all about heat cycles so if you come in after a session you can keep heating the tyre, and I was once told that you're getting heat in the tyre and also into the rim which will hold the heat a lot longer.

2. For the money they're great value for money, but they are not the best I think they use 5 wires to heat the tyres whereas something like HWW have either 7 or 8 wires and a better spread of heat, but they do have great aftercare service, I know a few people who use them and one or two have had issues which they have resolved without any hassle.

3. We've recently found out that a 190 rear does cause issues as the extra width pushes the warmer onto the pipes so some form of guard would be adviseable.

The main benefit for me personally is a mental thing and being able to start cracking on earlier in the session than worrying about warming your tyres which equates to more useful track time over the day

[weeksy2]

pretty much everything he said.

only downsides are not being able to use them at Mallory/Cadwell/Anglesea

[nathanhu]

i use KLS pro
i found that i didnt suffer from cold shear any more and tyres lasted longer, also it was easyer to read the tyres as it was only the suspension causing them to rip up.
Kls use a carbon heating element which stops localised heat or hot/cold spots, but more importantly they have a 2 stage heating selector so you can leave them on all day at 60 Deg and have no damage to the tyre, as you shouldnt leave them at 80 Deg all day....

http://www.kls.de/index-eng.htm

[Gbyte666]

I used my set of Diamond tyre warmers for the first time 2 weeks ago at Silverstone, and fook me they are awsome. Heat gets into the tryes really quick. Fist lap out felt like Id done the 3 lap warm your tyres and gave me so much more confidence. ( ps still treat the first couple as warm your tyres if your my level )

Get them and use them, worth the money if your going to do a few track days. I guess Weeks means you cant use them at Cadwell as no electric... hmmm bummer I really want to use them at the DSC day but cant justify a Genny. I'll just tap into Skids...

:lol::lol:

Craig

[Harv748]

...and from memory diasec do some specificaly for the 9** range, with a protective/reflective section on them to avoid melting on the pipes. A little more expensive (i.e about £15) than their 'standard' ones but worth it I think in the long run.

[Ray]

Diasec were doing 4 sets for the price of 3 recently. Might be worth organising a "group buy".

Ray.

[Harv748]

Originally posted by Ray
Diasec were doing 4 sets for the price of 3 recently. Might be worth organising a "group buy".

Ray.

I tried to organize this sometime ago with a group of other DSC members...had about 15 interested if I remember but the guy at Diasec just wasn't interested in any kind of discount offer for a group buy...may be worth another try now then????

[Bungi]

so diasec and HW seem worth finding out a bit more about any one have any contact details of where they are available or prices?

[Bungi]

thanks john i think youve convinced me

[twpd]

The use of warmers on race days can be disputed due to the delays in holding areas. Often the delays on trackdays are less because you can ride out onto the circuit at any time in the session.
Warmers help preserve tyre life due to reduced heat-cooling cycles but, with non-race tyres this is not so important.
Tyre warmers do help you with confidence and by ensuring your tyres have heat in them but, I really don't think it's a big deal with trackdays as you also have to warm more than just tyres anyway. It's not a race so there is no need to go balls out to start with. A few moderately gentle laps sighting should be enough to start getting heat into the tyres before picking up pace.

I raced used Diamond warmers for two years - they are great vfm. Not the most robust or hottest but, then you should look after kit anyway - mine are still like new. On cold days the use of skins is required to help them retain heat.

[deej]

tyre warmers are ace, onyl used mine the once but made a hell of a difference. tyres are only designed to have a few heat cycles so get them up to temperature and keep them there, in from the session warmers on, warmers off at the last minute :ie as their opening up pit lane then you not sat in the lane waiting letting your tyres go cold

buy a set you wont regret it

[Nattyboy]

Some good advice here lads - what do people think about the motogp ones as a budget item - ive heard there actually not too bad at all for the money ??

Nat

[Nattyboy]

Originally posted by weeksy2
pretty much everything he said.

only downsides are not being able to use them at Mallory/Cadwell/Anglesea

Sorry for being thick steve - but do you mean because of the lack of leccy points...?

[Felix]

MotoGP ones are certainly cheap but not heard much good. They may be ok for very occasional use but don't expect to last too long. Diasec are probably the best vfm. And, yes, it's the lack of leccy points, genny required (more than those small 800 W jobbies).

[Nattyboy]

Any feedback on these ? Notice they are half the wattage of the diaomond ones though.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Superbike-tyre-warmers-99-95-Suzuki-Yamaha-Honda_W0QQitemZ330082908438QQihZ014QQcategoryZ3679 6QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Curiously, both Diamomd and euroquip boast petronas as users ??!! Someones fibbing...!!

Nat

[Bungi]

I Went For Diamond And They Work Just Fine

[injected]

Curiously, both Diamomd and euroquip boast petronas as users ??!! Someones fibbing...!!

Nat

Maybe one on the front and the other on the back??