Oil for Monster 620Sie

[Redruth]

The oil leak has got to the point where I have a puddle in the garage and the level is below the lower line. My manual says Shell Advance Ultra 4 but at 8.30 at night the only garage round here didn't have that. I have 5 litres of Total Quartz 7000 10W40 - can I top up my oil level with that or is that just too stupid a question to ask? I have no idea how to do an oil change and frankly at this time in the evening that's not going to happen, and I'm riding the Monster to WSB tomorrow so need a solution and I need it fast!

[Rattler]

AFAIK - you can top up your oil with this and it'll be fine - I'd go with the recommended oil for a complete change though.

Tim

[rockhopper]

Is that a car oil? Not sure i'd use it in the monster with a wet clutch if it is.

[Redruth]

Tim, what does AFAIK mean? Is this part of the answer if so what does it stand for? :puzzled:

[rockhopper]

as far as a i know

[Dibble]

Originally posted by Redruth
Tim, what does AFAIK mean? Is this part of the answer if so what does it stand for? :puzzled:

means As Far As I Know - AFAIK

Dibs, doing his best impersonation of The Duke of Surrey

[Redruth]

Originally posted by rockhopper
as far as a i know

Thanks. Can you sense that I'm pannicking?

[rockhopper]

Oh yes!

[rockhopper]

What time are you setting off in the morning? Is there a Halfords on your route that might be open? Any of the lads going past your house who could drop a pint or two of the right stuff in for you?

[Edited on 27-5-2006 by rockhopper]

[Redruth]

One of the guys on the Monster site has just said that car oil additives in the car oil will make my clutch slip but another has said the oil I have is better than none. Do I have to look for special bike oil though because, not having made any study of this type of thing, I've never even noticed that oil is sold as either car or biek oil. Why can't they just take the Ronseal route and say exactly what it does on the tin???? :flame:

[CK]

AK says it will do to get you out of a hole Ruth.

The worst that could happen will be your clutch could get a bit notchy when you drop it into geear.

Just do it - but do a proper oil & filter change this week as soon as you can.

He says any oil is better than none!!!

[Redruth]

Just do it - but do a proper oil & filter change this week as soon as you can.

He says any oil is better than none!!! [/quote]


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Yeah right ! I've only just found out that I'm supposed to check the oil level in a bike - this is going to be a very steep learning curve for me. Am going out shortly to find a 24 Shell garage to see if they have the right oil. :o:o

[CK]

he says dont bother 'sweetheart!';)

He also says dont worry - if it leaks that much, you'll be better off putting sawdust in it!:lol::lol:

just top up with what you have, then do some essential work on Tuesday when the proper shops open.

ps: He says he dont put shell in any of ours anyway:o

[marko]

Hello Ruth, I think the letters AFAIK refer to the standard of the oil, if you look on the back of the can you will see a line of letters and numbers, just been out to the garage and looked at a can of bike oil and the numbers/letters are API SG-CCMIC G5. but dont worry about that as Rockhopper says go to your nearest halfords on the way and get a bottle on the way.
BTW how low is the level?

[Redruth]

Originally posted by rockhopper
What time are you setting off in the morning? Is there a Halfords on your route that might be open? Any of the lads going past your house who could drop a pint or two of the right stuff in for you?

[Edited on 27-5-2006 by rockhopper]

Halfords was my first thought but I don't think it will be open till 10 am and I'm meeting at 10. I'm going up to check the times on their door now, because it's just up the road. Otherwise, it'll be an 8 mile drive to the nearest 24 hour shell garage that I know of. Good job I've not been drinking - because I'm supposed to be riding tomorrow - eh?

[Redruth]

As suspected Halfords doesn't open till 10 am but 24 hour Shell garage had the right stuff and it's only 2 miles from my house (forgot about that one) and sure enough there's a picture of a motor bike on the bottle (and I rang Ali to check it was the right stuff). I think maybe even a rudimentary knowledge of these things would be a big plus for me so I'm definitely going to try to be less hopeless - Dr AK I'll be wanting more detail about where to put the sawdust.

:devil::devil:

Thanks for the help guys. Should be all sorted and it's going to be warm and sunny tomorrow. Hoorah! :D:roll::D:roll:

[Carbon749]

OK, I used to work at Total in sales and marketing for the lubes sides.

If I had a wet clutch I would not put Quartz 7000 in it. Right viscosity (ie: 10w/40) but the spec is way to high for a bike with a wet clutch.

The oil contains Friction Modifiers which are great for a modern car engine and fuel economy, but, play hell with wet clutches. Bike oil compared to modern car oil is quite low spec. Modern car oil is very high spec' and has lots of additives to assist with fuel economy and extended drain intervals .... bikes work on a completly different technology.

Bike oil has to lubricate the engine PLUS gearbox PLUS clutch in a wet system.

If possible get the correct bike oil .... any major oil company 10w/40 will be fine, just make sure it is intended for a bike. Shell, Total, Castrol, Silkolene, Q8 would all be OK and will mix fine with what you have in now. All major brands will be miscible in service.

All that said, the main reason for oil related failure is lack of lubrication rather than the wrong oil. If you assume your bike holds around 4 ltr of oil you would be OK (ish) topping up with 1 or 2ltr max of car type oil.

And by the way, AFAIK has nothing at all to do with oil spec's. The ones that you will see quoted are ACEA and API.

[KeefyB]

Hi Ruth,dont forget you need to check the oil level while the bike is upright,NOT on the sidestand.Add the oil a little at a time,then stand the bike up and check the level through the little window in the crankcase.
Overfilling can cause more harm than good.